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    South African Athlete has Gender questioned.

    While Caster Semenya, the new teenage sensation of the women's 800m, was getting ready for the World Championship final it emerged yesterday that the South African runner had been undergoing tests -- not of her speed but of her gender.

    Even before her gold at the World Athletics Championship in Berlin last night, speculation about the sexuality of the 18-year-old had been mounting on the track and field scene.

    Semenya shot to the top of the world rankings for the two-lap event with a stunning time of 1 min 56.72 sec in the African Junior Championships in Mauritius three weeks ago.

    Just five hours before she was due to line up as favourite for the 800m final in the Olympiastadion in Berlin came confirmation that she had been subjected to tests to determine her gender.

    But even with that weight on her shoulders, Semenya obliterated the field with a stunning run to take gold.

    Nick Davies, communications director of the International Association of Athletics Federations, confirmed Athletics South Africa had been contacted and asked to provide "gender verification documentation".

    "The gender verification test is extremely complex and difficult and the report has not yet been concluded," Davies said. "The situation today is that we don't have any conclusive evidence that she should not be allowed to run."

    Semenya's coach, Michael Seme, maintained that his charge was prepared to "take off her pants" to prove her sexuality.

    He said Semenya, who hails from the Limpopo province, had been stopped from entering female toilets at a petrol station in Cape Town recently because attendants were convinced she was a man. "Caster just laughed and asked if they would like her to take off her pants to show them she was a woman," he said.

    Seme said he was "100pc certain" that Semenya was female. He said he was keen to clear the air after all of the trackside speculation.

    "We understand people will ask questions because she looks like a man," he said. "It's a natural reaction and it's only human to be curious. People probably have the right to ask such questions. But I can give you the telephone numbers of her room-mates in Berlin. They have already seen her naked in the showers and she has nothing to hide."

    Davies stressed: "It's a medical issue. It's not an issue of cheating. We have to be very sensitive to this. We're dealing with a human being, someone who was born as a woman and who has grown up as a woman and we now have this issue where that is being questioned."

    Semenya, who broke Zola Budd's South African junior 800m record in March, is not the first track and field athlete to become embroiled in gender speculation.

    Stella Walsh, the Polish sprinter who won the Olympic women's 100m title in Los Angeles in 1932 and who took silver in the Olympiastadion in Berlin four years later, was found to have partially developed male genitalia.

    Subsequent tests revealed that she possessed both male and female chromosomes, a condition known as mosaicism.

    The German athlete who finished fourth in the women's high jump at the 1936 Berlin Olympics was known as Dora Ratjen but was later discovered to be a man, Hermann Ratjen.

    - Simon Turnbull-Irish Independent 20th August 09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap View Post
    "The gender verification test is extremely complex and difficult and the report has not yet been concluded," Davies said.
    Just call in Crocodile Dundee...
    Did you ever notice that in every painting of Adam & Eve, they have belly buttons. Think about that...take as long as you want.

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    Its all being handled very badly. She's only 18 & if she was born different, its not her fault. They really should have sorted this out before the championship.

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    Surly the belching and balls scratching would have been a dead giveaway!
    Or if she gave the urine sample standing up!

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    Is she single?

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    Is he/she Drogba in disguise?
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    I find it hard to disagree with the ANC's comment here:
    "Such comments can only serve to portray women as being weak," the ANC said.

    "Caster is not the only woman athlete with a masculine build and the International Association of Athletics Federation should know better," the statement said.
    On a similar note, has there been any questions about Usain Bolt? I've never seen any mentioned but surely some people must wonder why he's so good and was so good at a young age.
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    [QUOTE=superfrank;121689
    On a similar note, has there been any questions about Usain Bolt? I've never seen any mentioned but surely some people must wonder why he's so good and was so good at a young age.[/QUOTE]


    Bolt has been fantastic for years he's been winning international championships since his early teens so at the mo he's just about above suspiscion.

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    More gender questions have been raised about new teenage sensation of the
    women's 800 metres Caster Semenya. When asked recently if she would agree
    to a voulentary gender test, she replied "I will in my B*ll**ks"

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/8249948.stm

    god damn it, i should have went with that 5/1 at PP as I knew I wasnt seeng things!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post

    Make your own mind up
    looks fairly easy why need the gender tests....

    " football is a simple game "

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    Wonder if Semenya will enter the mixed doubles at Wimbledon next year..?
    Did you ever notice that in every painting of Adam & Eve, they have belly buttons. Think about that...take as long as you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeirish View Post
    Wonder if Semenya will enter the mixed doubles at Wimbledon next year..?
    semenya cant make wimbledon... clashes with soccer world cup and just been called up to south africa squad

    " football is a simple game "

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/8344591.stm

    Disgraceful carry on by the SA athletics board.

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