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**MMVIII** · 16/08/2009, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by sligofan4ever

Surprised to hear that coming from a Rovers fan after what was witnessed in the semi final last week.

Aye thats true, I should have said One of the worst

Now everyones happy.

**sligofan4ever** · 16/08/2009, 1:10 AM

Originally Posted by ARooney28

Aye thats true, I should have said One of the worst

Now everyones happy.

Come to think of it, is it even possible that there is a "best" referee in this league ? Our semi final against Bohs and the last 2 games we've seen very questionable referee's, two of which (Winter and Buttimer) we know all to well about

. We are going backwards with referee standards, former LoI referee's moniter how referee's are performing, the situation will get worse before it gets better, mainly because just the tought of Richie Winter and Anthony Buttimer being in the position of monitering referee's when they retire makes me fear that it will be a long,long time before a decent referee comes along.

**red bellied** · 16/08/2009, 1:46 AM

Cretaro actually asked the ref first before he actually passed the ball first into the net. Maybe Derry are a bit slow.

**brendy_�ire** · 16/08/2009, 1:58 AM

Buttimer signaled to the Derry defenders what looked like, IMO, 'wait for my whistle', whilst holding his whistle in front of them. He then turned to the Derry defense and directed them (the wall) to move back. At the same time the free kick was taken.

I have never been so angry at a match before. And I've seen some disgraceful referreeing performances. Even the Sligo fans I was talking to after the match were questioning why the free kick was allowed.

I know most refs in this league are incompetant, but some are blatantly biased. I can name two.

It's this sort of stuff that makes people not come back to LoI matches. There was a woman in tears at the end of the match today.

I don't know if there's any point emailing the FAI, but I will do. I'll email MNS also, simply asking them to show the sequence of events from 10 seconds before the free-kick was awarded until the goal was scored. [btw, the free-kick was questionable]

I can only hope that Buttimer's instructions were videoed.

I'm disgusted.

**red bellied** · 16/08/2009, 2:02 AM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Buttimer signaled to the Derry defenders what looked like, IMO, 'wait for my whistle', whilst holding his whistle in front of them. He then turned to the Derry defense and directed them (the wall) to move back. At the same time the free kick was taken.

I have never been so angry at a match before. And I've seen some disgraceful referreeing performances. Even the Sligo fans I was talking to after the match were questioning why the free kick was allowed.

I know most refs in this league are incompetant, but some are blatantly biased. I can name two.

It's this sort of stuff that makes people not come back to LoI matches. There was a woman in tears at the end of the match today.

I don't know if there's any point emailing the FAI, but I will do. I'll email MNS also, simply asking them to show the sequence of events from 10 seconds before the free-kick was awarded until the goal was scored. [btw, the free-kick was questionable]

I can only hope that Buttimer's instructions were videoed.

I'm disgusted.

Why are you objectionable, what is the law on a quick free kick?

**brendy_�ire** · 16/08/2009, 2:11 AM

Originally Posted by red bellied

Why are you objectionable, what is the law on a quick free kick?

Buttimer held his whistle up to the Derry players and said 'wait for my whistle'.
That's what I object to.

Some Derry fans have been saying that he winded our fans up during his warm-up by blowing kisses. (http://www.derrycitychat.com/forum/v...php?f=2&t=2882)

Hopefully this will all be on video.

Fair fecks to Sligo, they done so so much better than the second half on Tuesday. Vastly inproved. No team deserved to win tonight though.

**red bellied** · 16/08/2009, 2:15 AM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Buttimer held his whistle up to the Derry players and said 'wait for my whistle'.
That's what I object to.

Some Derry fans have been saying that he winded our fans up during his warm-up by blowing kisses. (http://www.derrycitychat.com/forum/v...php?f=2&t=2882)

Hopefully this will all be on video.

Fair fecks to Sligo, they done so so much better than the second half on Tuesday. Vastly inproved. No team deserved to win tonight though.

Well maybe he is queer blow some back the next time.

**brianw82** · 16/08/2009, 2:16 AM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Buttimer signaled to the Derry defenders what looked like, IMO, 'wait for my whistle', whilst holding his whistle in front of them. He then turned to the Derry defense and directed them (the wall) to move back. At the same time the free kick was taken.

I have never been so angry at a match before. And I've seen some disgraceful referreeing performances. Even the Sligo fans I was talking to after the match were questioning why the free kick was allowed.

I can only hope that Buttimer's instructions were videoed.

I'm disgusted.

I wasn't at the game, but if it's true that Buttimer gave a signal to wait for his whistle, then the free kick shouldn't have been allowed, as Cretaro didn't follow the rules. If Cretaro did have a word in his ear and got permission to take the free quickly, the Derry players then weren't aware of this, and were still getting set when it was taken.

While I'm happy that we won the game, any honest football fan would be utterly fuming to lose a game in this fashion. It does seem like Derry were, in the immortal words of Rico, ridden rock solid tonight.

**red bellied** · 16/08/2009, 2:23 AM

Originally Posted by brianw82

I wasn't at the game, but if it's true that Buttimer gave a signal to wait for his whistle, then the free kick shouldn't have been allowed, as Cretaro didn't follow the rules. If Cretaro did have a word in his ear and got permission to take the free quickly, the Derry players then weren't aware of this, and were still getting set when it was taken.

While I'm happy that we won the game, any honest football fan would be utterly fuming to lose a game in this fashion. It does seem like Derry were, in the immortal words of Rico, ridden rock solid tonight.

Honest football fan and you are supposed to be Sligo Rovers, dont make me laugh.

**brianw82** · 16/08/2009, 3:00 AM

But making you laugh is my reason to live!

**CameramanConka** · 16/08/2009, 6:07 AM

Originally Posted by micls

You fouled, the attacking team has every right to take the free quickly, unless they ask the ref to measure 10 yards, or the refs being picky.

Wrong.

**Boo_Boy** · 16/08/2009, 6:41 AM

Looking forward to seeing this back on MNS to see did he tell the derry players to wait for his whistle.

**Cosmo** · 16/08/2009, 8:19 AM

Originally Posted by dfclilywhite

I'm sorry but you can't call all Dundalk fans 'the worst fans in the league'. There are a select few who try their best to ruin the club's reputation but 99% of all Dundalk fans will never cause any trouble but like at most clubs there will always be a few idiots.

As I said, funniest thread ever

**WoodquayBoy** · 16/08/2009, 8:39 AM

Originally Posted by dfclilywhite

I'm sorry but you can't call all Dundalk fans 'the worst fans in the league'. There are a select few who try their best to ruin the club's reputation but 99% of all Dundalk fans will never cause any trouble but like at most clubs there will always be a few idiots.

Galway United have had trouble with just one set of fans in Terryland Park this season, and the second visit of this crowd of fans required a much larger Garda presence than usual. I'll let you work out which club those fans are attached to.

**Dixie Dean** · 16/08/2009, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Buttimer held his whistle up to the Derry players and said 'wait for my whistle'.
That's what I object to.

Some Derry fans have been saying that he winded our fans up during his warm-up by blowing kisses. (http://www.derrycitychat.com/forum/v...php?f=2&t=2882)

Hopefully this will all be on video.

Fair fecks to Sligo, they done so so much better than the second half on Tuesday. Vastly inproved. No team deserved to win tonight though.

Remembe Henry scoring a quick free for arsenal like that a few years ago. He asked the ref before if he could take it, can only assume Creataro did the same. Quick free's are always controversial but they are part of the game. I was surprised he allowed it to be fair, but it happened so quick most people around me missed it. To me Derry were settling for a draw at that stage, the derry fans were very quiet in the second half. Ithink rovers were trying more to win it and in my eyes deserved it after the week we've had.

MNS will be interesting.

**srfc1928** · 16/08/2009, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by brianw82

I wasn't at the game,

A lot of your post match analysis start like this

Originally Posted by brianw82

It does seem like Derry were, in the immortal words of Rico, ridden rock solid tonight.

what are you basing this on ?
no they werent "ridden rock solid tonight"
neither side would have complaints had the game finished 0-0.
a quick free kick was taken and scored, end of

**p�l-dcfc** · 16/08/2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by srfc1928

A lot of your post match analysis start like this

what are you basing this on ?
no they werent "ridden rock solid tonight"
neither side would have complaints had the game finished 0-0.
a quick free kick was taken and scored, end of

If he has held up the whistle to the Derry players, but still allowed the goal, we were ridden rock solid. Simple as.

If he blew kisses to the Derry fans while leaving the pitch, he shouldn't be allowed to referee in this league again.

In all honesty - we've been playing ****e for far too long. No consistency, so I'm not surprised we lost the match. Blaming it all on Buttimer is the easy way out. We have some serious issues that need addressed.

**Da Real Rover** · 16/08/2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Buttimer held his whistle up to the Derry players and said 'wait for my whistle'.
That's what I object to.

If this is true then that goal shouldnt have been allowed.
I wouldnt mind cheating one of the Dub teams but its different when your playing a team outside of the pale.
TBH I think most people should reserve judgement until we see MNS, then there can be some definite light thrown on it.

Some Derry fans have been saying that he winded our fans up during his warm-up by blowing kisses. (http://www.derrycitychat.com/forum/v...php?f=2&t=2882)

What ever about a questionable quick free kick if this is true he should be banned immediately.
A ref rileing up fans?
Thats dodgy stuff and has only himself to blame when a few idiots try to burst the clown.

**Da Real Rover** · 16/08/2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Galway United have had trouble with just one set of fans in Terryland Park this season, and the second visit of this crowd of fans required a much larger Garda presence than usual. I'll let you work out which club those fans are attached to.

Not a bit of bother with Dundalk fans in the Showgies this season.
The only ones that caused trouble were as per form the BSC, not even kids, grown men.