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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er View Post
    Exactly what I said last night, I've all the time in the world for him due to his attitude but time to go. Only problem is would you trsut a rookie left back in such a vital game as the Cyprus match?
    Nolan looks confident enough and looks to be a decent full back.
    I wouldn't trust Foley yet, Nolan has done better than him both times he has been on.
    Kelly, only if he is match fit, at rb is the obvious one with O'Shea at lb.

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    There are some great managers on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Wow, football fans are idiots. Trap a buffoon? We lost a pre-season friendly, whoop-de-fecking-do.
    To be fair ...he called him a buffon -not a buffoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Against Cyprus I fully expect us to get a comfortable enough 1-0 win, come on here and find people still saying how rubbish we and Trap are.
    I wonder what a comfortable enough 1-0 win would look like. In all my years I've never witnessed one.

    Quote Originally Posted by christo View Post
    Sorry but Hunt was woeful, ok he controled the ball well most of the time, only to subsequently lose the ball with a poor pass or cross straight into Schwartzer's hands.
    I believe it was Fanning (Dion not Dave) who said on the wireless recently that fans tend to really like Steven Hunt because he plays the way a fan would ....gimme the ball, head down, charge at the opposition.

    To be fair to him, he caused Australia some real problems last night but only to the extent that he was incoming traffic and had to be marshalled. He'd find a cul de sac on a spaghetti junction and his crossing and dead balls were almost entirely pish.

    Quote Originally Posted by the-blue-harp View Post
    ...trap will get the results when they matter in qualifiers. I dont know what some of you guys expect with these donkeys we have playing for us anyway!
    I hope you're right blueharp. Trying to keep the faith and yet on the way home from TP last night found myself whistling a tune called 'The Light At The End Of The Tunnel (Is The Light Of An On-Coming Train)'.

    Incidently just in ref to your donkeys remark - I found it remarkable last night just how poorly, inadequately, inefficiently TOO MANY of our players do basic, simple things like trapping a ball, short passing, 1-2s... don't get me started on crossing and switching. It just wasn't pro.

    Quote Originally Posted by as_i_say View Post
    If it was a competitive game, Killer could well have been sent off before half time.
    I actually thought that about Glenn Whelan. He landed a right couple of clatters and went right through a player for another.
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    Given: Can't blame him for either of the goals, St Ledger missed a clearance for the first, and McGeady missed a challenge to let in Williams for the shot for the second

    Kilbane: usual shift from Kilbane, worked hard but I'm still not convinced by his positional awareness
    Dunne: won everything in the air, but his distribution on the ground was poor
    St Ledger: similar enough to Dunne, seems to have a bit more pace about him, unlucky not to score at the end
    O'Shea: Seemed to be cruising through the game, pushed forward too much for me, and left the defence without and out ball on the right

    McGeady: Terrified the opposite full back, but wasn't given the ball enough in the first half, and in the second seemed to run out of ideas when he got into the box, didn't know whether to cross, or shoot and lost possession too often because of this
    Gibson: Honestly didn't know he was still on the pitch when he was substituted. In the first half, he seemed to be constantly taking the more difficult option when a simpler pass was on
    Whelan: played well, tackled hard, on reflection he seemed to be covering for Gibson a lot
    Duff: Poor showing from the Duffer, in comparison with McGeady he was reluctant to take on his opposing full back, and noone was surprised when he was substituted at half time. Given Hunt's performance, may have played himself out of a starting berth against Cyprus

    Doyle: Ran everywhere, but little time on the ball. I nearly had a heart failure when he went down clutching his side
    Keane: No point in playing long balls to a striker who is giving up at least 4 inches to his marker. Could have opened the scoring just before Cahill scored the first

    Subs:
    Hunt: Industrious running from Hunt, took over from McGeady in tormenting the full back. Doesn't seem to know what he's going to do next
    Folan: Thought with all the long balls in the first half, he'd thrive in the second half. However, most of the balls to him were to his feet, and he was poor in possession
    Andrews: Nearly scored late on, would have mirrored his strike against Poland
    Long: Came on for a tired McGeady, and looked comfortable in possession, but the same lack of final product. If he's going to play as an out and out striker with his club, how long will he be used as a substitute right winger for Ireland?
    Westwood: Little to do, and nothing he could have done about the third goal
    Nolan: Don't think I saw him possession, but he was on the opposite side of the stadium to me

    Despite having the majority of possession in both halves, Ireland struggled to get any of the play. Australia were content to sit in and around the half way line when our centre halves had the ball. O'Shea and Kilbane were pushed up on the wings, and with Cahill playing in front of the midfield, there was no outball for Dunne or St Ledger, and the ball seemed to be passed among the two of them, back to Given, and then launched upfield. A strong midfield player was sorely lacking here, news about Steven Reid's recovery can't come fast enough. McGeady was Ireland's best outfield player, but is still lacking the final product, either a cross/pass or a shot. The logic of playing longs balls to two strikers giving up height to their respective markers has been lost on me since England played Owen and Vassell against Mjallby and Laursen eight years ago.
    There was considerable column space given to the sales of tickets before the game, and the attendance announcement at the stadium was notable in its absence. After that performance, they will struggle to sell anything approaching the same numbers for the South Africa friendly in September.
    Despite the scoreline, Australia didn't impress me, so what does that say about Ireland?
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    whelan is not a good player. he is extremely limited. last night was about as good as he can play and even with that he was rubbish. i dont understand why people are trying to say he is a good player on this site. he is patently crap. gibson or andrews needs to be given the place ahead of him. what would those two be like playing alongside eachother? if whelan has a specific role surely one of those two could do it better?

    what did you think of trap laughing as the third goal went in. even though it mirrored my reaction perfectly i dont know whether it was appropriate for the manager to react that way. i suppose it shows he is not worried by the result and wont feel any undue pressure, but does it show an underlying lack of commitment?

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    dont agree about whelan. he is a good player, hes actually a very nice passer and has a good shot on him. won his way back into stoke's team at the end of last season. id stick with him in there as he will stick the boot in where needed sometimes also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebolg View Post
    what did you think of trap laughing as the third goal went in. even though it mirrored my reaction perfectly i dont know whether it was appropriate for the manager to react that way. i suppose it shows he is not worried by the result and wont feel any undue pressure, but does it show an underlying lack of commitment?


    Seriously ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie View Post
    dont agree about whelan. he is a good player, hes actually a very nice passer and has a good shot on him. won his way back into stoke's team at the end of last season. id stick with him in there as he will stick the boot in where needed sometimes also.
    whatever about his tackling (at least he makes a few, even though his timing is shocking at times) his passing is definitley muck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebolg View Post
    whatever about his tackling (at least he makes a few, even though his timing is shocking at times) his passing is definitley muck.
    dont agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebolg View Post
    whatever about his tackling (at least he makes a few, even though his timing is shocking at times) his passing is definitley muck.
    actually I rate him as a better passer than a tackler
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    FAI delighted with Limerick experience: http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/L...FAI.5550874.jp
    Apart from the result, obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Where did I say Hunt was magnificent?
    Sorry it wasn't really just you, I'm just totally fed up of Hunt

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post


    Seriously ....
    for some reason it made me like him even more. but i heard a few comments on the radio last night and wanted to guage how people felt about it.

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    traps a legend. hes long enough in the game not to get to worried about last night. roll on cyprus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie View Post
    traps a legend. hes long enough in the game not to get to worried about last night. roll on cyprus.
    My thoughts too!

    It was friendly, a run out to improve on players fitness, the good thing was that Trapp had time with the players over the last few days to work on thing for the Cyprus game ahead.

    If we had played Australia in June when all our players were at full fitness then we would of won the game, so theres no point in going overboard about last nights result.

    Roll on Cyprus, anyone know of any cheap flights/package deals from England?

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    Anyone who thought Whelan was rubbish last night just didn't watch the game closely enough. Simple as.


    And some people here really need to get the blinkers off when it comes to Robbie Keane.
    Last edited by MeathDrog; 13/08/2009 at 11:12 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeathDrog View Post
    Anyone who thought Whelan was rubbish last night just didn't watch the game closely enough. Simple as.


    And some people here really need to get the blinkers off when it comes to Robbie Keane.
    how do u mean on this ?
    i hope your not one of his knockers. hes essential to us. ESSENTIAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebolg View Post
    what did you think of trap laughing as the third goal went in
    I remember thinking after seeing that when I got home, can you imagine if that was Staunton? we'd all be like it's not funny you fu*king moron. The difference being Trap knows what he's doing and he's brought an average/poor team to the brink of qualification, so laugh all you want Trap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie View Post
    traps a legend
    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    My thoughts too!
    So he's in your good books now Doc, seeing as he's playing the Saint

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambler14 View Post
    The quicker Stephen Reid is fit and Trap swallows his pride and brings Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid back the better.
    Agree with you on the two Reids, however Stephen Ireland isn't available for selection....thought most fans would know this, it has been in the news.
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    Terrible performance but I really amn't too bothered. Trap played a long ball game in the 1st half and a lot of the 2nd for some odd reason and it just didn't work. I'm glad it didn't work. I don't us winning by playing football like that and I'm just a bit bewildered as to why he tried it. Trap talked about this game being about physical conditions but still no reason to ask your defenders to skip the midfield time and time again.

    Quote Originally Posted by backtowalsall View Post
    He has been playing on the right for Celtic so far this year, and is obviously right footed player. So obvious in fact that every right-back he meets when he plays on the left works out after 15 minutes that there isn't a cat in hells chance of him going down the touchline, and sends him into the middle of the park and eliminates danger of a decent cross.
    But you're wanting our wingers on their good side so they can get crosses in. In this day and age it should be the full backs job to put the crosses in. You don't need to beat a player to put a cross in. Duff and McGeady should be playing mainly on the sides they were last night and with the freedom to drift in, play passes to strikers, link up with midfield, take shots on goal. The wide players weren't the problem last night for sure.

    I don't think player ratings are needed for last night. The tactics were dreadful.

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