Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

**Hairy Bowsie** · 11/01/2010, 11:12 PM

She's over 17 thats for sure, she has a kid and all. I've no link though.

For the sake of being on topic, i have this sinking feeling that Cork will still get a premier licence

**weecountyman** · 12/01/2010, 5:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

She's over 17 thats for sure, she has a kid and all. I've no link though.

For the sake of being on topic, i have this sinking feeling that Cork will still get a premier licence

That's his youngest daughter, but she's not that much of a looker. The older one is going out with a lad who played for/is playing for Monaghan, Alan something?

I listened to interviews with Paul Doolin and Gareth Farrelly on podcast last night and would be stunned if Cork got a licence, but today they have an interview (though Lord Tom of Turners Cross won't be allowed to be present, Rod will though) and in the FAI and have to show that all playing and coaching staff have been paid (nothing about shop workers etc) and that nothing is owed. GF said he'd still not been paid and contacted the licensing committee to tell them as much and didn't take a court case in order to prevent a cross over.

Like you, hairy, I've a sinking feeling that the FAI will bottle it and the fair weather fans will benefit while the club further falls apart.

**SMorgan** · 12/01/2010, 6:47 AM

If Cork do get a licensing, then the FAI should just abandon the licensing system because its only making the game in this country a laughing stock.

I can't see Matthews and Farrelly getting all their money (200,000 in total) by the end of the month.

**pineapple stu** · 12/01/2010, 9:04 AM

When does the next Revenue winding-up order arrive so?

**HammerNThongs** · 12/01/2010, 1:41 PM

Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

I popped over to the Cork forum for a brief glance and I'm surprised to see that not everyone is anti-TNB/Roddy/CCFC. Is this purely because of the return of Georgie rubbish we're hearing or are their Cork fans who are completely fooled by this crook? Honest question to Cork fans on here.

If you are to ask me, some of the people who were on the fence about boycotting or whatever have been turned by the GOC rumors, which is sad in many ways to me personally, basically putting one person above the good of the club.

I think there is another element of non-boycotters who wont boycott simply because they dont think it will do anything and are just stuck in a state of bewilderment and dont know what to do.

And then there is an element of people who have said they dont give a **** just care about the guys on the field, which is an extremely dangerous view to have as well.

I am close to being done at this stage. It all relies on us not getting a licence though. The whole clubs future could rely on that.

**weecountyman** · 12/01/2010, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by HammerNThongs

If you are to ask me, some of the people who were on the fence about boycotting or whatever have been turned by the GOC rumors, which is sad in many ways to me personally, basically putting one person above the good of the club.

I think there is another element of non-boycotters who wont boycott simply because they dont think it will do anything and are just stuck in a state of bewilderment and dont know what to do.

And then there is an element of people who have said they dont give a **** just care about the guys on the field, which is an extremely dangerous view to have as well.

I am close to being done at this stage. It all relies on us not getting a licence though. The whole clubs future could rely on that.

It sounds like Ireland in general, for 2-3 years nobody wanted Fianna Fail, yet come election time they're back in the Dail.

What has become of the suggestion that FORAS will put in for a licence? Surely there would be a strong support for that and draw away any floating support, and money. I'm certain a good squad could emerge and the MFA would certainly back them. With this "scheme" TCFC have come up with to gouge more case, even at �200 a head there could be a good club put together and competitive in the 1st.

**HammerNThongs** · 12/01/2010, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by weecountyman

It sounds like Ireland in general, for 2-3 years nobody wanted Fianna Fail, yet come election time they're back in the Dail.

What has become of the suggestion that FORAS will put in for a licence? Surely there would be a strong support for that and draw away any floating support, and money. I'm certain a good squad could emerge and the MFA would certainly back them. With this "scheme" TCFC have come up with to gouge more case, even at �200 a head there could be a good club put together and competitive in the 1st.

The license application is still there from FORAS, but only as a contingency. If TNB gets his license, the FORAS one will be pulled, 110%. Now, should Coughlan not get a license and FORAS do get one, I am not entirely sure what will happen as we wont have the rights to the name (**** the crest, TNB can keep that piece of crap) so technically would have to start a new name unless we can buy that off TNB for an undoubtedly extortionate price. Should we start as anything but CCFC, then I am not sure what the uptake will be from City fans in terms of showing up at games or how happy they would be at following, what is essentially, another club, even if CCFC is just defunct and unavailable

**weecountyman** · 12/01/2010, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by HammerNThongs

The license application is still there from FORAS, but only as a contingency. If TNB gets his license, the FORAS one will be pulled, 110%. Now, should Coughlan not get a license and FORAS do get one, I am not entirely sure what will happen as we wont have the rights to the name (**** the crest, TNB can keep that piece of crap) so technically would have to start a new name unless we can buy that off TNB for an undoubtedly extortionate price. Should we start as anything but CCFC, then I am not sure what the uptake will be from City fans in terms of showing up at games or how happy they would be at following, what is essentially, another club, even if CCFC is just defunct and unavailable

It sounds an absolute nightmare and not of the fans making. The current state of play is a disaster with worse in store. There could be a case for calling the new club Cork Football Club, CFC (then again the liberal pc eco brigade would hit that hard) which is short and to the point. But will FORAS stick it out if Cork end up in the 1st Division? Just heard Roddy on the radio claiming the Premier licence is in the bag, that the FAI have guaranteed Cork's place in the league, Europe and that they're assisting him with his licence (I thought it was Newstalk but now I think it was 98FM or RTE, I'm trying to find out). I didn't know what licence he was talking about then remembered it wasn't for an english reg merc or club car but for coaching. If he's right, then it's going to be a rollercoaster ride for 2010.

**John83** · 12/01/2010, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

For the sake of being on topic, i have this sinking feeling that Cork will still get a premier licence

I really doubt it: I think Farrelly will refuse to come to an agreement over wages owed and I suspect others may follow. I doubt TNB has the money to buy them all off. Factor in the fact that TNB seems to have ****ed off Abbotstown, and it's not looking good for them.

**razor** · 12/01/2010, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by weecountyman

Just heard Roddy on the radio claiming the Premier licence is in the bag, that the FAI have guaranteed Cork's place in the league, Europe and that they're assisting him with his licence (I thought it was Newstalk but now I think it was 98FM or RTE, I'm trying to find out). I didn't know what licence he was talking about then remembered it wasn't for an english reg merc or club car but for coaching. If he's right, then it's going to be a rollercoaster ride for 2010.

Lord help us all. Please god its not true.
Would the postman for Abbotstown please get a bigger van.

**weecountyman** · 12/01/2010, 4:10 PM

Originally Posted by razor

Lord help us all. Please god its not true.
Would the postman for Abbotstown please get a bigger van.

Newstalk it was, and this week, possibly today, he's on 98FM with Johnny Lyons and Thursday he'll be on Newstalk again. Interestingly Paul Doolin said the Cork training facilities were "attrocious", yet his "successor" said they're great. Is pre-season taking place in Pairc Ui Caoimh this season or Musgrave Park

**yiddo** · 12/01/2010, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by weecountyman

Newstalk it was, and this week, possibly today, he's on 98FM with Johnny Lyons and Thursday he'll be on Newstalk again. Interestingly Paul Doolin said the Cork training facilities were "attrocious", yet his "successor" said they're great. Is pre-season taking place in Pairc Ui Caoimh this season or Musgrave Park

don't mind the training we might end up playing there cos the MFA are still owed 7500k rent for the Cross and have told TNB that he ground won;t be available to City on Friday nights next season.

**weecountyman** · 12/01/2010, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by yiddo

don't mind the training we might end up playing there cos the MFA are still owed 7500k rent for the Cross and have told TNB that he ground won;t be available to City on Friday nights next season.

Is that back rent or a deposit for the new season? How much do Cork pay for the Cross?

**Acornvilla** · 12/01/2010, 5:19 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

How old is she?....And if over 17..link for curiosity?

i got 30odd viruses for trying to find a pic?? wtf this laptop is a gonner......

**yiddo** · 12/01/2010, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by weecountyman

Is that back rent or a deposit for the new season? How much do Cork pay for the Cross?

thats money due since last season. dunno what rent City are supposed to pay for the Cross

**passerrby** · 12/01/2010, 6:29 PM

cant figure out TNB ,has he or has he not applied for a licence he must have put down the cross as his designated ground and therefore must show he had access to same for the season.also his financials submisions must be a train wreck I would love to see his license application was it written on the back of a envelope with a crayon with a mug stain on the top and marmalade on the bottom. Its not just cork on trial it is also licensing anyway best of luck to the cork supporters nobody deserves this even if they did riddle the big fella

**yiddo** · 12/01/2010, 6:43 PM

Originally Posted by passerrby

cant figure out TNB ,has he or has he not applied for a licence he must have put down the cross as his designated ground and therefore must show he had access to same for the season.also his financials submisions must be a train wreck I would love to see his license application was it written on the back of a envelope with a crayon with a mug stain on the top and marmalade on the bottom. Its not just cork on trial it is also licensing anyway best of luck to the cork supporters nobody deserves this even if they did riddle the big fella

there was a rumour going round before Christmas that he had put St Colemans Park down as Citys home venue for 2010. No one at Ramblers knew anything bout it but that little detail wouldn't put the bold No Bobs off!

**HammerNThongs** · 13/01/2010, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by weecountyman

It sounds an absolute nightmare and not of the fans making. The current state of play is a disaster with worse in store. There could be a case for calling the new club Cork Football Club, CFC (then again the liberal pc eco brigade would hit that hard) which is short and to the point. But will FORAS stick it out if Cork end up in the 1st Division? Just heard Roddy on the radio claiming the Premier licence is in the bag, that the FAI have guaranteed Cork's place in the league, Europe and that they're assisting him with his licence (I thought it was Newstalk but now I think it was 98FM or RTE, I'm trying to find out). I didn't know what licence he was talking about then remembered it wasn't for an english reg merc or club car but for coaching. If he's right, then it's going to be a rollercoaster ride for 2010.

If any of that is true, I'm out...for good...the league can go **** itself.