QuoteBecause Roddy knows that his only way into jobs in Ireland nowadays is when some complete lunatic/fool like TNB is in charge of a club. He's burnt his bridges and TNB is his only hope.
I'd quite like that job.Originally Posted by John83
"Roddy - your pay is...zero. Here it is. Now feck off."
Baffled why Collins is pimping himself so strongly for this voluntary position too.
Because Roddy knows that his only way into jobs in Ireland nowadays is when some complete lunatic/fool like TNB is in charge of a club. He's burnt his bridges and TNB is his only hope.
Banks closed in 20 minutes and some staff still have not received their money.
So, does this deadline matter, will it be enforced or will we see the most unpopular fudge in a while.
Some banks (including Bank of Ireland) don't close until 5pm, so TNB has about an hour to go yet.
Also, from what I can gather, the Independent Licensing Committee do not meet until the end of January. Even if TNB doesn't pay up his debts today, but pays them in mid-January, that should also suffice. I think the deadline today is a case of if he isn't going to pay anytime soon, he needs to have agreements in place with those that he owes money too. However, if he expects to pay everyone in the first week or two of January (and actually does pay them), I think the Licensing Committee will accept that as no monies will be owed to anyone by the time they sit.
Up the Harps!!
Then whats the point of the deadline.
He hasnt paid people yet and they are refusing to sign agreements. If the deadline is pointless why have it and not just saw the deadline is the middle of January.
It's crap like this that means TNB gets away with this constantly, and now all staff wont be paid before Christmas, he'l pay it at the last possible minute and the licensing committee will see nothing wrong in this?
I'll be disgusted if this is true.
On the basis only Tom wants to see a fudge, and everyone else (bar the Rodster) is searching for a reason to finally get shot of him, it would seem like this SHOULD be the end of the road.
But of course it won't be....
I wonder when we'll find out the result of this so called deadline
Seen this on extratime.ie:
Section 10.1 of the FAI domestic club licensing manual includes the following: “The licence applicant must prove that, in respect of contractual and legal obligations with its employees, it has no payables overdue towards employees or revenue/social/tax authorities as at 30 November of the year preceding the season to be licensed, unless by the following 21 December they have been fully settled, deferred by mutual agreement with the creditor or are subject to a not obviously unfounded dispute submitted to a competent authority.”
Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
Fergal: Ya, I have them here.
Manager: Ah good stuff, well give them to this man so, he forgot his!
It's the FAI's fault.
The deadline for completed License applications is the 30th November.
They then have another deadline where outstanding monies must be paid by 21st December.
However, the Licensing Committee do not sit until the end of January.
For me, everything should be in place by 30th November, the Licensing Committee should sit on the 1st December and licences for the following season issued then. However, we have a situation where almost three months pass from the date of the previous season until licences are handed out, and then just a two week period before the new season starts.
It's a joke of a situation where club's don't know for certain what Division they will be in next season. Take Bray, they are the club who will benefit most if Cork don't get a licence as they will be awarded a Premier Division licence. However, at the moment, they are not sure whether to sign players for a First Division campaign or a Premier Division campaign. We also have a situation in that we don't know if Salthill Devon or the 'new' Derry City are successful in getting First Division Licenes for next season - and no-one will know for certain until two weeks before the season is due to begin.
I know Cork fans want rid of TNB as soon as possible, and are hoping the FAI do this for them. However, it's the FAI that have set all these 'deadlines' and don't enforce them.
If you want my views on it, I'll bet you TNB pays all his football debts before the Licensing Committee sits and he'll get his Premier Division licence for next season. The 12 month ban won't bother him in the slighest as he'll just get that new General Manager to sign all the paperwork, etc. while he pulls the strings behind the scenes.
Up the Harps!!
There are 'payables' overdue as of 30 November, they have not been cleared by 21 December [at least as of 4.37 today] and there are no mutual agreements in place with anyone. It's black and 888ing white!
Screw all this fudging, they only get away with fudging because people have been willing to turn a blind eye to it in the past. Well not this ****ing time. No way.
The FAI have a responsibility to the employees of the clubs they claim they police, they'll grow a pair of balls this time if I have to rip off Coughlan's and staple them between Fran Gavins legs.
So ****ing angry right now, people I've known for years, working for this ***** are facing into Christmas without money in their pockets, solely because TNB thinks he can get away with it.
Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.
The reason that they wait until the end of January for the financials is that the financial and tax year runs until 31st December and clubs have to get their accounts done and audited. Ordinarily I'd say that if clubs had the money paid by the time the committee met they'd be alright but in my opinion there's such bad blood between Coughlan and the FAI that they'll make no allowances for him whatsoever and any chance they get to deny him a Licence they'll take it. The only difficulty would be if other clubs are in the same boat and haven't met the deadline but it appears to be the case that everyone except Cork will at least have agreements in place.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
So... After five now. Any news?
DCFC
3 words: Job Seekers Allowance
This could possibly have been mentioned here before but if there is a fudge with regards to Cork and licensing does anyone feel that there's an appetite among LOI fans in general for some sort of Delaney Out campaign? An organised, non-whining on the internet type one that is.
It's not up to Delaney - it's up to the Independent Licensing Committee.
Up the Harps!!
Independent, yes, of course independent. Then the FAI just choose which league to place the team in.
Im sure he'l try to claim this somehow stopped him from paying people.Cork City FC Chairman Tom Coughlan today obtained an Order from the High Court for leave to judicially review the Disciplinary Committee’s hearing of 17 December 2009.
The order relates to the Committee’s refusal of Mr. Coughlan’s request for an adjournment, the Committee’s decision to hold the hearing in Mr. Coughlan’s absence and the Committee’s finding that Mr. Coughlan had brought the game of football into disrepute and the sanction imposed on him.
As a result of this, certain issues may not be capable of being finalised while the proceedings are pending.
Notwithstanding the pending judicial review proceedings, Mr. Coughlan remains committed to obtaining a renewal of the Club's license and will be doing everything possible to ensure such renewal while awaiting the outcome of the judicial review.
Speaking to CorkCityFC.ie, Mr Coughlan said: “I was very disappointed with the decision of the Disciplinary Committee and the manner in which we have been treated. It is unfortunate that we have had to pursue this course of action, however given the prejudicial nature of the CEO’s comments and the subsequent actions of the Disciplinary Committee, we were left with no option. We hope that this issue can be brought to speedy and successful conclusion so that we can concentrate on playing football next season.”
And of course the licensing rules exclude cases were legal proceedings are currently underway when taking unpaid wages into account. Super
They only exclude cases where it's a "not obviously unsound" dispute about the actual wages not some other case ongoing whilst wages are owed but no doubt he'll try it.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
Plonker. He seems determined to **** Delaney off as much as possible.
Dead man walking.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
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