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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    Very easy for a football supporter to take the moral high ground regarding a situation that doesn't involve their club I know but if Cork get a licence for the Premier it will only confirm the vast majority of barstoolers', and a sizeable amount of LoI fan's suspicions that these two leagues of ours are painful jokes played out at idiots' expenses, namely myself, yourself and everyone else that has wasted their time trying to keep their heads up amidst the myriad of rubbish that gets served to us each and every year
    Jebus, you are spot on. Every single word is spot on. I'm so disgusted by the fact that this has even gone this far and when the decision is made later, when it goes in favour of Cork, i will be contemplating a life without LoI football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie View Post
    Jebus, you are spot on. Every single word is spot on. I'm so disgusted by the fact that this has even gone this far and when the decision is made later, when it goes in favour of Cork, i will be contemplating a life without LoI football.
    Why should your club suffer because of FAI ineptitude and the FORAS/Quintas ultimatum? If CCFC are awarded a Premier licence, we, LOI fans nationwide, should boycott Cork City matches.

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    I know this is off the wall lunatic thinking but there is a chance that the FAI were just fobbing off the consortium and perhaps when the Committee doesn't award a Premier Licence they just put the blame on them as an "independent body". If the takeover falls through they still can award FORAS their licence. I have to say I am well aware that that's more a hope than an expectation. I just can't believe that clubs like us have been given so much grief by the FAI even this year when we've actually turned a very small profit I believe and they appear to be just content to nod through Cork's licence.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eelmonster View Post
    Why should your club suffer because of FAI ineptitude and the FORAS/Quintas ultimatum? If CCFC are awarded a Premier licence, we, LOI fans nationwide, should boycott Cork City matches.
    I think what Hairy Bowsie might be getting at is that there might come a stage where you just have to say football on this island (possibly worldwide) is just not worth it any more. What's the point of supporting your club in a league that I would view as corrupt, or at least corruptable? We still do it but football, and a lot of other sports too, sometimes fall into the trap of thinking that love is endless and limitless when it really isn't and starts taking it's lifeblood (the supporters) for granted.

    On that I'm sure the FAI will grant a Premier Licence to Cork secure in the knowledge that a lot of fans won't walk away no matter how much of a nonsense the LoI becomes. I'm not one of them, I'm pretty sick of football and the only thing keeping me interested is Limerick FC, and like I say I don't think I'm someone who has limitless love for this game and these leagues in particular

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    How can the league retain even a shred of credibility with this ongoing farce? If Cork get the Premier licence it'll be ridiculous and even if they don't Bray are already behind the 8 ball before the season even kicks off.

    I wish FORAS well in the future and Cork need strong representation in the league heading into the future but securing Corks future can't come at the expense of the rest of the league and particularly teams who have meticulously kept within budget year after year despite having limited revenue streams.

    Most of the clubs in the LOI are far from squeaky clean and Galway United have most definitely made mistakes in the past but from that we tried to cut our cloth over recent times.

    An absolute blizzard of cash(in relative terms) has passed through Cork City over the past number of years yet its still in a massive hole. The FAI have been quick enough to act in the past against other clubs now they must show that they aren't running a league with different rules for different teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    I'm not one of them, I'm pretty sick of football and the only thing keeping me interested is Limerick FC, and like I say I don't think I'm someone who has limitless love for this game and these leagues in particular
    I hear ya Jebus, looking forward to the start of the League myself, but this shambles with Cork definitely leaves a sick taste in my mouth. Why the hell did the FAI let this drag on for the last few months - a joke and an insult to all fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abcd View Post

    Most of the clubs in the LOI are far from squeaky clean and Galway United have most definitely made mistakes in the past but from that we tried to cut our cloth over recent times.
    This is another point. I'm far from Galway's biggest fan but at least when they overspent two seasons ago they corrected it mid-season to stay within the licence's financial requirements

    Cork just seem to flounce about and the FAI refuse to punish them, even a points deduction would be nonsense. I mean I was reading that rag the Indo today and saw a headline like 'Cork faces extinction with 3pm deadline in the courts today' and just thought how often I'd seen a similar headline in the past year regarding Cork City FC. That's from someone with an idea of what's going on, can't imagine what a barstooler would think of it

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    Can anyone explain why RTE News and other sources have said that if there is no premier license there won't be a Cork team in the league? What happened to the FORAS D1 option or is that off the table now?
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    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/2...arthyj_av.html



    Missed this yesterday, and lots of hard questions unasked. Scaremongering at its worst, but it's business after all.

    A couple of notable moments that should be of extreme concern to Cork City fans - our governing body is the F.A.I., not the FA as Mr. McCarthy seems to think it is. As a student of psychology this slip seems rather worrying. You have been warned :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Can anyone explain why RTE News and other sources have said that if there is no premier license there won't be a Cork team in the league? What happened to the FORAS D1 option or is that off the table now?
    Its RTE ,they take their Irish football news from the BBC and someone from the BBC made a error..the others have stupidly followed RTE.

    If the consortium pulls out ,Foras still have the backup plan sorted
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    I think what Hairy Bowsie might be getting at is that there might come a stage where you just have to say football on this island (possibly worldwide) is just not worth it any more. What's the point of supporting your club in a league that I would view as corrupt, or at least corruptable? We still do it but football, and a lot of other sports too, sometimes fall into the trap of thinking that love is endless and limitless when it really isn't and starts taking it's lifeblood (the supporters) for granted.

    On that I'm sure the FAI will grant a Premier Licence to Cork secure in the knowledge that a lot of fans won't walk away no matter how much of a nonsense the LoI becomes. I'm not one of them, I'm pretty sick of football and the only thing keeping me interested is Limerick FC, and like I say I don't think I'm someone who has limitless love for this game and these leagues in particular
    Again you're pretty spot on. Why are people struggling to see the bigger picture here?
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    Bray had a representitive in the court today .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMorgan View Post
    You got to say that those planning to take-over the club have a bloody cheek to be insisting on a licence. You can be sure that they are now talking to the FAI and trying to twist their arm. hopefully the FAI will tell them where to go. These guys can't get a licence. Simply can't!!!
    Not only will they get a license but they will also play in Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackholesun View Post
    No way should CCFC recieve a Premier division license for the coming season after the way the name of the league was dragged through the mud by TNB over the last 12 months. Doesn't matter in my book, that new owners are taking over, the FAI would be setting a dangerous precedent here by allowing a club to flaunt the licensing process and play this get out of jail free card. I could see Bray challenging it in the courts too. Cork should take their medicine and their rightfull place in the first division!
    bhs
    What can Bray or any other club do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    The new owners contacted the judge to say it was dependent on the license received. She said that there was to be no conditions attached to takeover

    FAI could now call their bluff by not awarding them the license (but of course they'll just allow them in…)
    Of course they will,all ready sorted.


    Quote Originally Posted by SMorgan View Post
    If Cork gets a Premier Licence then other clubs should come together and take some form of action. The awarding of a Licence will be totally unacceptable.
    You & I know that the clubs won't come together for any reason. That's why the League of Ireland is in the mess it is.Every club looking out for their own corner. Always has been & always will be.

    Quote Originally Posted by eelmonster View Post
    Why should your club suffer because of FAI ineptitude and the FORAS/Quintas ultimatum? If CCFC are awarded a Premier licence, we, LOI fans nationwide, should boycott Cork City matches.
    I presume you're taking the michael. The only time most League of Ireland get a good crowd is when Cork City are playing them. We kept Shels going for years.

    Quote Originally Posted by abcd View Post
    How can the league retain even a shred of credibility with this ongoing farce? If Cork get the Premier licence it'll be ridiculous and even if they don't Bray are already behind the 8 ball before the season even kicks off.

    I wish FORAS well in the future and Cork need strong representation in the league heading into the future but securing Corks future can't come at the expense of the rest of the league and particularly teams who have meticulously kept within budget year after year despite having limited revenue streams.

    Most of the clubs in the LOI are far from squeaky clean and Galway United have most definitely made mistakes in the past but from that we tried to cut our cloth over recent times.

    An absolute blizzard of cash(in relative terms) has passed through Cork City over the past number of years yet its still in a massive hole. The FAI have been quick enough to act in the past against other clubs now they must show that they aren't running a league with different rules for different teams
    This League has no credibility. That went out the window long ago and as you say most of the clubs can't talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Can anyone explain why RTE News and other sources have said that if there is no premier license there won't be a Cork team in the league? What happened to the FORAS D1 option or is that off the table now?
    RTE couldn't even get the day of the week right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Can anyone explain why RTE News and other sources have said that if there is no premier license there won't be a Cork team in the league? What happened to the FORAS D1 option or is that off the table now?
    Ignore that. There will be a Cork team in the League next year. Either City in the Premier or FORAS in the 1st Div


    Quote Originally Posted by weecountyman View Post
    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/2...arthyj_av.html



    Missed this yesterday, and lots of hard questions unasked. Scaremongering at its worst, but it's business after all.

    A couple of notable moments that should be of extreme concern to Cork City fans - our governing body is the F.A.I., not the FA as Mr. McCarthy seems to think it is. As a student of psychology this slip seems rather worrying. You have been warned :-)
    I'll pass on your concern.
    Last edited by dahamsta; 22/02/2010 at 8:18 PM. Reason: Use Multi-Quote please.
    "To Fudge or Not to Fudge" by J Delaney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonydaly View Post
    I presume you're taking the michael. The only time most League of Ireland get a good crowd is when Cork City are playing them. We kept Shels going for years.
    By far the biggest catchment area of any club and your crowds are still outdone by others on ocassion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chatterbox View Post
    By far the biggest catchment area of any club and your crowds are still outdone by others on ocassion.
    Who apart from Rovers & thats only since they moved back to Tallagh ?
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    hopefully its Cork thats wound up.
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    Anybody know what time the licence decision will be anounced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LK37oldskool View Post
    hopefully its Cork thats wound up.
    Well so what if we are. It won't improve the standard in Limerick will it ? If we are playing in the 1st Div next year at least ye will get a decent crowd. This has been going on for so long now I don't think we even care down here anymore. It should have been sorted out long ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by grayzer1888 View Post
    Anybody know what time the licence decision will be anounced?
    As far as I know the meeting was due to start at 7pm so it could take all night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonydaly View Post
    Well so what if we are. It won't improve the standard in Limerick will it ? If we are playing in the 1st Div next year at least ye will get a decent crowd. This has been going on for so long now I don't think we even care down here anymore. It should have been sorted out long ago.
    For me, it's not about Cork as such it's just the whole idea of even handed treatment from the powers that be. If it were Bohs I'd be similarly annoyed but they seem to have complied with that they had to, one way or another. I've said it more than once but even this year we were geting unbelievable threats from the FAI if we didn't pay a few bills by the 29th January. I believe the sum total was less than €3k. It stinks. And I'm sure we weren't the only ones
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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