Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

**Grasshopper 99** · 18/02/2010, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by tippex

Is it not part of licensing that if you are in the premier you are required to have a team in the A also?

it is, if Bray go up, they will have a form another team, Wonder would the Fai give a club like Bray so much time if we were in the same boat? Not a chance. The FAI have fecked up big time, now every club in future can take as long as cork and not get repermanded for it. The FAI are just truely the worst organisation in the world, even worse than our government.

**osarusan** · 18/02/2010, 11:31 AM

Let's not forget that Cork haven't got a license yet. The licensing committee has waited on making a decision due to an ongoing court case (which, if what OneRedArmy has said is correct, they are obliged to do). I still see it as perfectly possible that after the conclusion of the court case, they will be denied a license.

**tippex** · 18/02/2010, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Let's not forget that Cork haven't got a license yet. The licensing committee has waited on making a decision due to an ongoing court case (which, if what OneRedArmy has said is correct, they are obliged to do). I still see it as perfectly possible that after the conclusion of the court case, they will be denied a license.

That is making a huge assumption that the FAI/ILC will do the right thing.....

**OneRedArmy** · 18/02/2010, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by tippex

That is making a huge assumption that the FAI/ILC will do the right thing.....

No its not.

Read the post again. He specifically said that its "possible", not that its definitive.

Anything is possible. And not in a good way.

**OneForTheFuture** · 18/02/2010, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Grasshopper 99

it is, if Bray go up, they will have a form another team, Wonder would the Fai give a club like Bray so much time if we were in the same boat? Not a chance. The FAI have fecked up big time, now every club in future can take as long as cork and not get repermanded for it. The FAI are just truely the worst organisation in the world, even worse than our government.

The FAI/ILC will use this as the excuse to award Cork a Premier licence.... They will spin it so it looks like they are doin' Bray a favour.

**tonydaly** · 18/02/2010, 1:46 PM

Originally Posted by D15-Red

The FAI/ILC will use this as the excuse to award Cork a Premier licence.... They will spin it so it looks like they are doin' Bray a favour.

They are doing them a favor. Bray must have vertigo at this stage from going up & down between the divisions.
The FAI/ILC have set a very dangerous precedent with their dealing of this matter.Make a set of rules & stick to them. Stop bending them out of shape. Clean up the mess once & for all.
The League of Ireland is in a worse state since the FAI took over if that was ever possible.

**refjohn** · 18/02/2010, 1:51 PM

Actually there might be a bigger issue - what if Cork don't get any license - that leaves one division a team short or did FORAS get their license last week but not publicised? It doesn't appear that any of the 'A' division teams can step up and with no allowance to sign players after Monday why would they?

Although am I right in signing Bray / Cork / whomever can still sign out of contract players - are there enough still hanging around to make a team?

**passerrby** · 18/02/2010, 2:10 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Let's not forget that Cork haven't got a license yet. The licensing committee has waited on making a decision due to an ongoing court case (which, if what OneRedArmy has said is correct, they are obliged to do). I still see it as perfectly possible that after the conclusion of the court case, they will be denied a license.

the fai had ample reason and oppurtunity to desmise cork from an fai run league they used a pending court case to keep them in the frame they are not oblidged to do anything ,they could of refused any licence from cork on the grounds that they had not applied for one in the correct manner or on time and that they had consistantly dragged the league into disrepute but they (he) choose to keep them in the hunt , no other club was ever given that much latitide except when they choose to bypass licensing to keep derry in LOI

**tonydaly** · 18/02/2010, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by refjohn

Actually there might be a bigger issue - what if Cork don't get any license - that leaves one division a team short or did FORAS get their license last week but not publicised? It doesn't appear that any of the 'A' division teams can step up and with no allowance to sign players after Monday why would they?

Although am I right in signing Bray / Cork / whomever can still sign out of contract players - are there enough still hanging around to make a team?

If Cork don't get a license you will see FORAS in the 1st Div next season.

You can sign out of contract players at any time provided they became out of contract before the end of the previous transfer window & yes there are plenty of out of work players available.

**centre mid** · 18/02/2010, 2:49 PM

Two seasons ago the IFA demoted Portadown for being 30 mins late in getting their documents in, that is how to administer a league. Make a rule and stick to it.

**Mr_Parker** · 18/02/2010, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by centre mid

Two seasons ago the IFA demoted Portadown for being 30 mins late in getting their documents in, that is how to administer a league. Make a rule and stick to it.

That was not in relation to licensing though.

**tippex** · 18/02/2010, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

That was not in relation to licensing though.

I think the point was that it was in relation to missing a deadline.

**Mr_Parker** · 18/02/2010, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by tippex

I think the point was that it was in relation to missing a deadline.

Yes but the Licensing procedure does allow for extensions on submissions in certain circumstances, something the IFA have done too. The application procedure he refered to did not.

**dcfcsteve** · 18/02/2010, 4:54 PM

Is there really anything worth saving of the existing Cork City FC ?

Beyond the name - whcih was just reborrowed from the 1930's anyway - what is there that's worth all this hoopla to save ? No assets, few players - all of whom can walk at a moment's notice.

Yes - I know that covering debts would be an honourable thing to do, but the debts are the responsibility of those who mis-ran the club, and any new club could offer to make payments to old club creditors if it so wished (like DCFC has done).

Fans shouldn't let themselves be or feel emotionally blackmailed over the debt of what is, at the end of a day, a business run with no input from them.

So what exactly is there that is worth paying €900,100 for (or at the very least €600,100).....?

**Kildareman** · 18/02/2010, 5:22 PM

I wonder is Sepp Blatter a visitor to Foot.ie

If he is, he'd be rolling around on the ground keeping up with this thread.....

**jan molby** · 18/02/2010, 5:35 PM

required points .what a load of nonsense.maybe bray should have borrowed 2 or 3 million and gained the required points.cork must go

**tonydaly** · 18/02/2010, 6:20 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Is there really anything worth saving of the existing Cork City FC ?

Beyond the name - whcih was just reborrowed from the 1930's anyway - what is there that's worth all this hoopla to save ? No assets, few players - all of whom can walk at a moment's notice.

Yes - I know that covering debts would be an honourable thing to do, but the debts are the responsibility of those who mis-ran the club, and any new club could offer to make payments to old club creditors if it so wished (like DCFC has done).

Fans shouldn't let themselves be or feel emotionally blackmailed over the debt of what is, at the end of a day, a business run with no input from them.

So what exactly is there that is worth paying €900,100 for (or at the very least €600,100).....?

I think the fans feel the history of the club is worth saving. Not sure if I'd be willing to pay that much for it however.

Originally Posted by jan molby

required points .what a load of nonsense.maybe bray should have borrowed 2 or 3 million and gained the required points.cork must go

Or maybe the required players. You'd think being so close to Dubland they would have no problem getting some cast off's. If Bray were any further away from Dubland they would end up like Kildare County,nowhere. Incidentally why do you think Bray couldn't stay up last season again despite have two go's at it or maybe you think they should get a free pass every year.

**marty** · 18/02/2010, 6:20 PM

dcfcstece- I asked the same things few days back it seems their history etc is what they want to hold onto.All 25yrs of it.Cant for the life of me understand why this is happening all for a name.

Is their some email address in the FAI that all members could maybe send an email to as supporters of irish football to let them know how people feel or is it a waste of time