Peter left the building

**watcher** · 20/07/2009, 4:11 PM

As the sub said all loi clubs are in the same boat as Cobh were.
But the difference is they did something about it, just look at City if they go down they will go down fighting to keep the club going.
Cobh in the other hand went down fighting each other and still are, why is everyone so caught up with what Dave Hill is getting paid, it was not so long ago most of you were singing his praise.
How do you expect to get players into the club who have experience unless we pay them which we cannot, how do you expect the players we have get the experience unless we have someone like Dave Hill coaching them.
Rome was not built in a day and its the same with Cobh they will not get back to winning ways unless they are taught and get the expereience they need.
There is no money in Cobh Ramblers yes that is correct and the reason is quite clear all the supporters will not support the team even if they won the Aleague because of the big divide between the town.
There are many many clubs in Ireland loosing money and they are still paying the manager his €2k a week and the players on average €1k a week.
You dont see the supporters carrying on the way Cobh supporters have, if that was the case they would not be a team left in LOI.
More than likley we will see teams going semi-pro next year but they will still be supported by the same people.
Rovers are one example of true fans look at them 20 years ago lost their ground played in every ground in Dublin, but the fans kept them alive with 400 strong TRUE SUPPORTERS, look at them now new pitch and playing one of the top teams in the world tonight
That is what you call support,

Just to put thing straight I have no loyality to commette or Dave Hill none what so ever but its a shame that we are going to leave a club go to the wall just because we do not like each other.
Remember there is no I in team

**6yardpunisha** · 20/07/2009, 4:26 PM

Originally Posted by watcher

As the sub said all loi clubs are in the same boat as Cobh were.
But the difference is they did something about it, just look at City if they go down they will go down fighting to keep the club going.
Cobh in the other hand went down fighting each other and still are, why is everyone so caught up with what Dave Hill is getting paid, it was not so long ago most of you were singing his praise.
How do you expect to get players into the club who have experience unless we pay them which we cannot, how do you expect the players we have get the experience unless we have someone like Dave Hill coaching them.
Rome was not built in a day and its the same with Cobh they will not get back to winning ways unless they are taught and get the expereience they need.
There is no money in Cobh Ramblers yes that is correct and the reason is quite clear all the supporters will not support the team even if they won the Aleague because of the big divide between the town.
There are many many clubs in Ireland loosing money and they are still paying the manager his �2k a week and the players on average �1k a week.
You dont see the supporters carrying on the way Cobh supporters have, if that was the case they would not be a team left in LOI.
More than likley we will see teams going semi-pro next year but they will still be supported by the same people.
Rovers are one example of true fans look at them 20 years ago lost their ground played in every ground in Dublin, but the fans kept them alive with 400 strong TRUE SUPPORTERS, look at them now new pitch and playing one of the top teams in the world tonight
That is what you call support,

Just to put thing straight I have no loyality to commette or Dave Hill none what so ever but its a shame that we are going to leave a club go to the wall just because we do not like each other.
Remember there is no I in team

but there is a "me" in team.
Watcher, i have no problem with DH but my problem lies in that the A League management team from the season before offered to do the job for nothing.2 very experienced and very importantly respected individuals.So our glorious chairman and his merry band of little men decided to reject that idea in favour of paying DH.Now i await your logical reply on how im wrong in this.

**watcher** · 20/07/2009, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha

but there is a "me" in team.
Watcher, i have no problem with DH but my problem lies in that the A League management team from the season before offered to do the job for nothing.2 very experienced and very importantly respected individuals.So our glorious chairman and his merry band of little men decided to reject that idea in favour of paying DH.Now i await your logical reply on how im wrong in this.

experience is the key its no good running around a few cones and running up the steps each week that won't win games they are both nice guys.
Remember as far as Im aware DH was signed to be the 1st div manager in loi and you must have an uafa B licence to manage, correct me if Im wrong they did not have that.
DH signed his contract before they lost the loi status so maybe Cobh would still have to honour the contract, I dont know again correct me if Im again wong.
DH have a uafa B licence which took him maybe two years to achieve and long weeks away and weekends plus a few thousand euro.
Also he played at a high level of football and what I have heard he was good.
I know what your going to say they lost to Bray twice and Bohs but remember they played against Premier players with years of experience and these players are just starting out. In the three games they scored 5 goals in any other league they would have won the three games.
Many errors were made by the team but again that a learning curve.
I have spoken to a few players and they are very happy with DH and the way he manages and coaches no issues over his pay either.
We could go on all day me saying this and you replying, we all know what happened we are all not happy but at the end of the day are we going to just stand by and let the club wind down.
Lets just agree to differ and maybe if we work together and go along and support the team next year could be a new horizan.

**bellavistaman** · 20/07/2009, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by the sub

Thank god ur well balanced blokes. And that you have a chip on both shoulders
Every club in ireland inc uk and europe and we are the only club that do every thing in our power to make sure we go out of business
Look at footie.ie. We are the only club that run down every member who try to keep the. Club alive
If you want the club to survive do something about it instead of knocking everyone. Who. Put a. Quote. On the site.
I know ur reply we love the club and would die for it I don't think so and if so and so leave. We will support the club.
That is not going to happen.
A question. How many supporters are willing to help save the club

Indeed like alot of people round here, well balanced!! Im still supporting the club, only unlucky as **** with the way matchdays are falling. I could not give a **** whos in charge ill stilll go to matches/meetings.
A answer: When asked to donate the 2k i done it foolishly, and im ****ed since, since then nothing more has been asked of me so in my crazy mind ive done all i can and all thats been asked. Im more than willing to help out again only not financially as i can no longer afford it,also last time i checked i did not see your name on the 5 year members list and id imagine your prob 50 times more financially stable than myself. by the way good move on that one, but come the high horse with regards to the saving the club ****, the club cant be saved until we stop all sources of money leaving our gates, start with hill, me made a bold statement with the bar manager, a step in the right direction if if was a sign of things to come, na, it then emmerges we only done that to pay hills wages, OMG

As i also said sub not being smart but if it was your lets say "favourite players" for use of a better word that were treated like peter was, you'd be on the war path and rightly so too, id probably be on your side then man, but your interests are happy so your happy and best of luck to both them and you bud!!

Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha

do you not think by paying someone to a job for you when you do not have the income coming in to meet it is saving the club

Emmmmmmmmmmmmmm????

Boom boom pow!!!

Originally Posted by watcher

As the sub said all loi clubs are in the same boat as Cobh were.
But the difference is they did something about it, just look at City if they go down they will go down fighting to keep the club going.
Cobh in the other hand went down fighting each other and still are, why is everyone so caught up with what Dave Hill is getting paid, it was not so long ago most of you were singing his praise.
How do you expect to get players into the club who have experience unless we pay them which we cannot, how do you expect the players we have get the experience unless we have someone like Dave Hill coaching them.
Rome was not built in a day and its the same with Cobh they will not get back to winning ways unless they are taught and get the expereience they need.
There is no money in Cobh Ramblers yes that is correct and the reason is quite clear all the supporters will not support the team even if they won the Aleague because of the big divide between the town.
There are many many clubs in Ireland loosing money and they are still paying the manager his �2k a week and the players on average �1k a week.
You dont see the supporters carrying on the way Cobh supporters have, if that was the case they would not be a team left in LOI.
More than likley we will see teams going semi-pro next year but they will still be supported by the same people.
Rovers are one example of true fans look at them 20 years ago lost their ground played in every ground in Dublin, but the fans kept them alive with 400 strong TRUE SUPPORTERS, look at them now new pitch and playing one of the top teams in the world tonight
That is what you call support,

Just to put thing straight I have no loyality to commette or Dave Hill none what so ever but its a shame that we are going to leave a club go to the wall just because we do not like each other.
Remember there is no I in team

All loi clubs are not in the same position as us go away and **** off, their playign regular competitive matches against half decent teams which still slightly captures the imagination of the town. Their getting minimum 100-150 extra people to the gates, at a tenner a man we say thats a extra grand, along with sponsorship and so on. Also their not, bar city who are gone, 500k in debt, and only digging a bigger hole for themselves are they.

**rambler14** · 20/07/2009, 5:54 PM

Be honest who really gives a sh!te about the A Championship?

**bellavistaman** · 20/07/2009, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Be honest who really gives a sh!te about the A Championship?

ha....

**watcher** · 20/07/2009, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Be honest who really gives a sh!te about the A Championship?

I do and I care about Cobh Ramblers, you may not but as I said that is your decision and I made mine

**watcher** · 20/07/2009, 6:05 PM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

ha....

so did you, when you were asked up to play or did you

**bellavistaman** · 20/07/2009, 6:11 PM

Originally Posted by watcher

so did you, when you were asked up to play or did you

what you on about at all??

**luka** · 20/07/2009, 6:19 PM

you do not have the income coming in to meet it ]

and how do you know there is no income?

Get off that horse or get your alter-ego to come back with a reply.........................FACT! as you might say! The only FACT here is that you're an absolute pain and I'm quite suprised you didn't get the hint earlier. ''He aint my Brother...He's my Buddy..................FAAFO

**bellavistaman** · 20/07/2009, 6:33 PM

Originally Posted by luka

[quote you do not have the income coming in to meet it ]

and how do you know there is no income?

Get off that horse or get your alter-ego to come back with a reply.........................FACT! as you might say[/QUOTE]

Woah back the **** up prat!! Im the one who uses FACT,so obviously you are incinuating that i have 2 names on this obviously 6yardpunisher is what your implying, your ****in wrong ill get dahamsta to back me up on it. i fight all my battles by myself thank you very kindly.

Also a year ago we signed off on financial controls which stated we would be given a monthly update on accounts, as we have not been given any update on can only assume were not makin money, or were gone back on our word!!!
So Mr.Ramblers why arent the financials controls we put in place "to save the club" being followed??

**bellavistaman** · 20/07/2009, 6:36 PM

[QUOTE=luka;1195556''He aint my Brother...He's my Buddy..................FAAFO[/QUOTE]

and whats this all about??

Also a new abbreviation, i want in??

**6yardpunisha** · 20/07/2009, 6:53 PM

Originally Posted by luka

and how do you know there is no income?

Get off that horse or get your alter-ego to come back with a reply.........................FACT! as you might say! The only FACT here is that you're an absolute pain and I'm quite suprised you didn't get the hint earlier. ''He aint my Brother...He's my Buddy..................FAAFO

ah jesus luka jumps in again attacking poor bella, thanks for the compliment bout bella bein me,only pain around here is you luka and an insignificant one at that.FACT

**luka** · 20/07/2009, 6:54 PM

Woah back the **** up prat!! Im the one who uses FACT,so obviously you are incinuating that i have 2 names on this obviously 6yardpunisher

Who mentioned anything about 6yarder except you?

Also a year ago we signed off on financial controls which stated we would be given a monthly update on accounts, as we have not been given any update on can only assume were not makin money, or were gone back on our word!!!
So Mr.Ramblers why arent the financials controls we put in place "to save the club" being followed??

Shur what are you asking me for? I'm not on the committee, however you know that but still had to be a smart arse and ask?

**luka** · 20/07/2009, 7:04 PM

Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha

ah jesus luka jumps in again attacking poor bella, thanks for the compliment bout bella bein me,only pain around here is you luka and an insignificant one at that.FACT

Insignificant is right Lads.
Give it a break and grow up NGAAFO

thanks for the compliment bout bella bein me

Who ever said that? Twas he brought you into it

**Allstar** · 21/07/2009, 2:04 AM

Ha this **** is funny! All ill say is wats the name of the thread title???

I rest my case!!!

**luka** · 21/07/2009, 2:39 PM

Lads,

Let me just say that I don't actually mean to be giving anyone a hard time here. I only look at it as a bit of highly charged banter so if any think I'm having a go then I do sincerely apologise. We all have different opinions and they all count whether or not people agree with them. I know I get a bit hot under the collar at times and may come back at ya with an out of character response but it's all part of it I suppose. We have supporters here to agree to disagree and it all makes for lively debate once kept within reason.

**munsterkid** · 22/07/2009, 11:09 AM

ha ha i love reading this ***t yere some idiots i love it,yee still havent learned anything, this season has been a failure but my sources tell me ramblers will be the next club put into the 1st div by default if certain things happen in the following 3 months.But yee as fans have failed your club and your club has failed you on & off the pitch so do ramblers a favour and hang up yere scarfs,

**bellavistaman** · 22/07/2009, 4:26 PM

Originally Posted by munsterkid

ha ha i love reading this ***t yere some idiots i love it,yee still havent learned anything, this season has been a failure but my sources tell me ramblers will be the next club put into the 1st div by default if certain things happen in the following 3 months.But yee as fans have failed your club and your club has failed you on & off the pitch so do ramblers a favour and hang up yere scarfs,

will do kid