Lee Trundle rejects North

**Schumi** · 28/01/2004, 12:44 PM

From what I've seen of Trundle, his name describes him well. He has the build and pace of Andy Myler and I can't see him playing for Ireland.

**NorthoftheLee** · 28/01/2004, 12:50 PM

He(Connolly),like Lee Trundle,is unlikely alas,to match up to his potential........on an international stage......both seem too lightweight......Robbie K.has more ability/agility,so has been able to do the biz.on an international stage,to date...

trundle and lightweight..never though i'd hear the two of them words in the same sentence without NOT.

the whole reason trundle is only breaking through at 27 is because he only decided to go full time last year.....he has admitted that he was a lazy ******* and his attitude was all wrong, hence him not being picked up sooner...he changed all that and is now reaping the rewards...he'll be picked up fairly soon by at least a div 1 club.......seen him play a couple of times this season and seen some hightlights too, now I'm not saying that the guy is going to walk into the irish team because that aint going to happen, but if he continues his current form and progress i see no reason why he cant be bagging goals in the 1st div and then who knows.....the guy is unbelievably skillfull..you only have to look at some of the goals he's scored this season..."SHOWBOAT" on soccer am have in in there nearly every week......the one where he took a high ball, on his shoulder, twisted so the ball was on the other shoulder and then layed on a brilliant through ball was incredible skill and even had george best drooling as if he'd seen a free bottle of champagne for life promo....
this guy is way too good for 3rd div football, and he is a player that fans love to watch.....just keep and eye on him.......too soon at the moment for a call up but if he continues scoring then he'll have to be considered..........

**Bowsy** · 28/01/2004, 1:01 PM

i've seen him on Soccer AM but when he starts doing that in the 1st division or higher then we can start talking about him as a future ireland player. To me he looks a bit overweight and i think he'll be found out at a higher level. I really hope the lad proves me wrong, becomes a class act and you lads can say i told you so as we really need some fire power. Can't see it though.

**tiktok** · 28/01/2004, 1:48 PM

he looks strong and is a good finisher but we can't judge him properly at the moment. he obviously wants to play for Ireland so put him to one side and have a look again down the line.

i do think he'll be picked up by a bigger (probably first division) club, so then is the time to start judging how good he really is.

**Macy** · 28/01/2004, 2:10 PM

Originally posted by Guerzy
Well i'm glad someone here can see into the future. Tell us are City going to win the league next year. Trundle has never played an international yet so how can you judge him before hes even had a chance. I cant wait for the day when he does to hear all of ye saying "I told ya the boy was good"

But Connolly has, and has proved to be for the most part absolutely sh�te...

**John83** · 28/01/2004, 2:23 PM

Originally posted by Guerzy
Now your just looking for a debate. People forget what Connolly was. When he first started playing for Ireland he was what Robbie Keane is now. So give him a break.

Robbie Keane is now on the verge of breaking Quinn's scoring record. Connelly has at no point been anywhere near that mark. And it's not like the little ******* is a playmaker.

The possibility of giving Trundle a go seems to me to lie with a B international cap. Has Kerr made any indication that he's still considering this?

**Dodge** · 28/01/2004, 2:27 PM

Look its not Connolly�s fault he�s played for Ireland, we just have a severe shortage of quality strikers.

Oh and the fact that Trundle even knows about Inchicore, never mind the fact his granddad comes from here, means he should start for Ireland

**Macy** · 28/01/2004, 2:36 PM

Originally posted by Dodge
Look its not Connolly�s fault he�s played for Ireland, we just have a severe shortage of quality strikers.

It's his fault that he spat the dummy when he was left out by Givens...

**Bowsy** · 28/01/2004, 3:34 PM

Honesty is one thing but he's just not an affective threat at international level. If he was we wouldn't be playing The Doc up front or discussing Lee Trundle.

**John83** · 28/01/2004, 3:47 PM

Originally posted by Guerzy
Obviously you have a grudge against Connolly calling him that. You know its not his fault he gets picked and successive managers cant be wrong. He s an honest player with loads of heart. He says things the way he sees them and i like that.

For the first part, note the use of the word "irrational" in my sig. He can't help it that one of our better strikers is unfortunately ineffective at international level. But he's still ****.

About him losing the marbles when dropped, that I can't abide by. Honesty might be a virtue, but petulance isn't.

**pineapple stu** · 28/01/2004, 4:35 PM

Originally posted by patsh
Did Kerr actually say that about the eL premier and the 3rd division?
Are there possible callups for Jason Byrne and John O'Flynn so?
Does it mean Crowe will get another chance?

He was quoted saying that in The Star yesterday. (Someone else bought it and left it lying around, I swear!

)

I think the implication was that he would hold O'Flynn, Crowe, etc. above Trundle at the moment.

**Slash/ED** · 28/01/2004, 6:22 PM

If Trundle plays for us it wont be in the third division unless we hit rock bottom. Let him move to the first division at the very least and until then he'll only be worth a B cap.

**Bowsy** · 29/01/2004, 8:46 AM

Do B internationals still exist? Haven't heard of any country having one in many a year. Would be really useful for trying out players like Thornton, Butler, Doyle, etc as well as the likes of Trundle. Would any club be willing to let their players go for a game that's not a full international nowadays?

**Dodge** · 29/01/2004, 9:01 AM

Scotland played a few recently. Think they tarted it up as a "development" squad

**Plastic Paddy** · 29/01/2004, 9:05 AM

Speaking of 'B' internationals, I'm sure I read somewhere hereabouts that Brian Kerr was thinking of arranging a 'B' game early this year, although obviously nothing has yet transpired. Surely this would be a good opportunity to look at the likes of Trundle as well as players like John Thompson, Sean Thornton, Scott Fitzgerald of Watford (banging them in at Division 1 level) and maybe even Kevin Gallen of QPR?

PP

**pineapple stu** · 29/01/2004, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
Speaking of 'B' internationals, I'm sure I read somewhere hereabouts that Brian Kerr was thinking of arranging a 'B' game early this year, although obviously nothing has yet transpired.

I think one was arranged but had to be scrapped after clubs said they wouldn't be prepared to release players. Don't think it was down for a regular international week.

**Bowsy** · 29/01/2004, 1:09 PM

Any B international would probably have to be played night before full international like u21s. Even then it's hard to see managers being willing to let their players go and risk injury. Would benefit us greatly though. Chance to ease in players and get untested players use to playing with each other. Also a good test of loyalty. Would players be prepared to sacrafice their right to play for England, Jamaica, Scotland whatever for only a B International cap.

**Macy** · 29/01/2004, 1:40 PM

Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
even Kevin Gallen of QPR?

Ah come on.... He made his choice (and fair play if he didn't feel Irish), so shouldn't be allowed to wear the shirt now he knows he'll never make the England side (and as I understand he has no interest anyway).

**Plastic Paddy** · 29/01/2004, 1:58 PM

Originally posted by Macy
Ah come on.... He made his choice (and fair play if he didn't feel Irish), so shouldn't be allowed to wear the shirt now he knows he'll never make the England side (and as I understand he has no interest anyway).

We've discussed this before at http://www.foot.ie/t10809.htm

where I posted this:

Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
I remember reading more than one newspaper article written at the time Kevin Gallen opted for England pointing the finger at Gerry Francis for pressurising Gallen to do so. Apparently, this was due to Francis not wanting Gallen to count under the three foreign player-rule. It would seem that the player was forced to choose between club and country, and had quite a difficult decision on his hands.

His brothers (Joe and Stephen) played for Watford and represented Ireland at underage levels, and his family were/are quite well-known in Irish circles in north-west London. I'd happily say give him a chance, as our lack of depth in the squad means we have to consider all possibilities available to us.

and Lopez posted this:

Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
Seriously, those that know Gallen personally point to this. Mate of mine who worked at the Irish Post in the nineties knew the three brothers (I met Gallen's brother a couple of times as well) and he claims he was pressured. Certainly Kevin Gallen was no 'three lions tatooed on my stomach' Gerry Fitt.

which is why I feel the way I do about Gallen getting a chance.

PP

**Falconblade** · 29/01/2004, 8:20 PM

Connolly ****e? You guys should watch more D1 football... he's on the scoresheet more often than not for the Hammers this season. Admittedly he hasn't done too much on an international level, but when has he been given a decent chance?