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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs
    if the hooped are in europe next year it will be as a result of cheating people you owed money to, sponging off the tax payer and previous board submitting false accounts and misusing public funds (still not paid back)


    Our current board haven't done any of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post


    Our current board haven't done any of the above.
    And our current board weren't responsible for the Albion deal, the Danninger Deal, didn't authorise any of the contracts currently in place with players, didn't draw up last years accounts.......

    However, we admit to being a continuous entity all the time, not just when it suits us. If the actions of previous SR boards are nothing to do with you now, then neither are any of your league titles.
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    What have your current board done about them though? Have they sold anyone during the transfer window, for example? And weren't all the major decisions - including the sale of the ground - voted on by the fans? There's many differences between the two clubs' situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Betting Man View Post
    Did the Rovers board not ask their members to pay/take out a 5 year membership so they could get money which they really needed?
    Did they ask? Yes.

    Was there any significant number of people who did so on that occassion? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    WTF ?!?

    Are you suggesting that LOI fans shouldn't drink Red Bull because a team they own/sponsor had the cheek to beat an Irish squad ?

    I just pray for you that none of our sides have to line out competitively against FC Lesbos....
    Or get screwed over by Oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    WTF ?!?

    Are you suggesting that LOI fans shouldn't drink Red Bull because a team they own/sponsor had the cheek to beat an Irish squad ?

    I just pray for you that none of our sides have to line out competitively against FC Lesbos....
    Was in jest really Steve, although I never liked Red Bull anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post


    Our current board haven't done any of the above.
    Change the board, walk away from your responsibilities and sponge off the tax payer ! another glorious page in the history of Shams EST **** (make it up depending on the issue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Change the board, walk away from your responsibilities and sponge off the tax payer !
    Thats really unfair! Bohs have not done any sponging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Betting Man View Post
    You win the league on the pitch,if we win the league then its because we have been the best team on the pitch over 30 odd games so it would be right to be allowed to be league champions
    Pats won the league on the pitch, but the FAI handed Shels the League Championship. Any rules that Bohs break are getting broke in the current season. If at the end of the season they have won the league and it is found out they broke the rules during that same season, they should be punished for that by telling them that as they broke the rules (cheated) their way to the trophy they can't have it. In the likes of the Olympics any one who is found to have cheated loses their medal, should that not be found out for another year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derry View Post
    Pats won the league on the pitch, but the FAI handed Shels the League Championship. Any rules that Bohs break are getting broke in the current season. If at the end of the season they have won the league and it is found out they broke the rules during that same season, they should be punished for that by telling them that as they broke the rules (cheated) their way to the trophy they can't have it. In the likes of the Olympics any one who is found to have cheated loses their medal, should that not be found out for another year.
    Now if you can just get Rovers (always up to something dodgy) Cork and a few others kicked out as well then derry might, just might, win the League

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    There are reasons to be hopeful, if not quite rejoice, at the inevitable collapse of Bohemians delusional gambling.

    The megalomania that fuelled Bohs irrational and irresponsible spending - which has previously been exhibited by successive league winners Cork, Shelbourne and Drogheda - is fundamentally destructive for the league.

    The 65% wage protocol was introduced because of necessity - I suspect that the sanctions likely to follow for Bohemians should have a far greater stabilising influence on clubs generally, then the unlikely success of a crazy financial gamble.

    Dysfunctional gamblers rarely know when to stop of their own accord.
    What will happen will happen. Its not November yet though. Your obvious obsession with all things Bohemian is frankly pathetic at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Thats really unfair! Bohs have not done any sponging.
    Yawn. not sure what you are talking about there (but then I doubt if even you do). Tell us, just what is it with you and Bohs ? three league wins ? Dundalk getting Seanie after we dumped him? and worse what will it be like when we end your season after the cup game ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs
    sponge off the tax payer!
    Public authorities and sports associations across the country receive government funding. Do you object to them all getting it or just the council who built our ground?

    Now if you can just get Rovers (always up to something dodgy) kicked out
    That's an example of the delusional mindset that has your club in the position they're in.

    Unlike your club, we knew that there were serious problems facing our club under the last owners. We paid a painful price for it, the club got rid of the owners, and have come out the other side. Sooner or later, reality will hit your club as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    I just pray for you that none of our sides have to line out competitively against FC Lesbos....
    Because the majority of LOI fans are heterosexual males and... what? It was a joke?

    I can't wade through another of these threads, it's like a gladiatorial fight between Bohs and Rovers fans as to who's the more hypocritical, with the occasional neutral taking sides. Personally I'd worry about my own club before mouthing off about another.

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    It appears that Pat Fenlon believes that relegation and European disqualification will not happen. According to the Evening Herald he is targeting retaining the league title and competing again in the Champions League next season.

    I suppose keeping the panel together would be important then - but how can this be achieved?

    Evening Herald 23 July:
    "But a defiant Pat Fenlon today predicted that his Gypsies players will be back here again next season as they're more determined than ever to win the league for the second year running."

    "Yet Fenlon is keen to keep this panel together, despite last night's 1-0 loss..."
    http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/bo...e-1836657.html

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    What else is he gonna say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    It appears that Pat Fenlon believes that relegation and European disqualification will not happen. According to the Evening Herald he is targeting retaining the league title and competing again in the Champions League next season.

    I suppose keeping the panel together would be important then - but how can this be achieved?



    http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/bo...e-1836657.html

    Same as Sheridan.

    He's hardly gonna come out and say "Ah well, thats us f**ked so".

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    "Bohs currently at 64%" - Gerry Conway

    Extract from todays Irish Independent:
    By Daniel McDonnell
    Friday July 24 2009
    Yesterday was about counting the cost. In the wake of Wednesday's woe, secretary Gerry Conway speculated that holding out to progress would have earned the club in the region of €400,000.
    Even if Bohs had lost to Dinamo Zagreb in the third qualifying round, they would have then been parachuted into the final qualifying stage of the Europa League.
    "We were looking at making €220,000 if we were to make the next round, and then lose at that stage," said Conway.
    "There would have been two home gates from which we would have expected to gross between €100,000 and €150,000 plus any television money. Approximately €400,000 would have been the benefit to us from going through."
    In their current state, the cash is desperately needed. Earlier this month, finance director Chris Brien informed club members that progression in Europe was essential if they are to avoid ending this season over the 65pc Salary Cost Protocol which would mean serious sanctions, including relegation and expulsion from Europe, in the worse-case scenario.
    The Salzburg defeat means that other options will have to be considered, principally a trimming of the wage bill which could result in some of Fenlon's leading players exiting the dressing-room.
    With just a week until the Irish transfer window closes, and few other clubs recruiting at this juncture due to the general financial climate, then it is more likely that sides in the UK will be alerted considering their transfer window extends until the end of August. However, Conway insists that all is not lost, arguing the context of Brien's warning.
    "He said that if we had no other sources of income and no other financial plans, that (breaching of 65pc rule) would be the case. But we have other plans, although they are too early to bring to the members yet.
    "We are confident we won't be over the 65pc at the end of the season. At the moment, we believe we are at 64pc, the FAI believes we are at 66pc. That is without going through in Europe this week so I am confident we won't exceed it.
    "Obviously from a cash-flow point of view, it would have been beneficial to have another full house next week. But I don't believe it's the difference between making or not making the 65pc rule on November 30 next."
    Bohs hope to profit from a friendly against a Liverpool XI, which has been organised for August 17. However, there are doubts about the quality of Reds side they will see at Dalymount Park, considering they kick-off their Premier League campaign against Tottenham 24 hours earlier.
    "I have no idea as to the strength of the Liverpool squad," admitted Conway. "I don't know who will be coming back from injury or what the plan is so I cannot say what the strength of squad will be at this moment."
    In the short term, Bohs will concentrate on this Sunday's top-of-the-table clash with rivals Shamrock Rovers, who come into the game buzzing following a very different kind of loss at Tallaght on Monday. Despite the kick-off time of 1.0, the high-profile nature of both clubs' affairs this week should result in a large crowd at Dalymount.
    The problem for Bohs is that they can't guarantee similar sized attendances for the remainder of the calendar, making it difficult to justify their spending. Unfortunately, it's a familiar tale.
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...s-1838314.html
    Last edited by Ezeikial; 24/07/2009 at 9:01 AM.

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    Ah great news im glad it was all Rovers hype and that all is now well for them well done Gerry and the lads ....................jesus wept!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMcC View Post
    What will happen will happen. Its not November yet though. Your obvious obsession with all things Bohemian is frankly pathetic at this stage.
    I'll tell you what is patheic. Ezeikial is one of the few posters on here that actually backs his/her comments up with FACTS and SOURCES and because it is about Bohs he/she is attacked by every Bohs fan on here and told that he/she is fascinated with the club.

    When in reality for every reply a Bohs fan gives to one of his/her posts he comes back and wipes the floor with you lot and then all you can say is "oh your fascination with our club.... blah blah blah" now that is pathetic.

    Like every other LOI fan he/she is upset that a fellow LOI club is dragging the leagues name through the mud again and its not because it Bohs, it would be the same for any other club.

    Do you want to know why this is getting so much attention on her?
    It is because your fans are constantly coming on here and trying to defend your clubs actions, "We have NOT broken any rules YET" rubbish. Its not christmas YET but I know its coming and wouldn't argue against it.

    Here's some advice, accept that your club has done wrong, accept that it is in a bad way and things need to change drastically. Accept that you probably need to let your whole squad go and start again in a lower division, because ultimately it may save a great club that very few want to see fold. Stop tryig to defend the undefendable!

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