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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Vito
    The PM is right, the amount of tickets available to those on the block booking list is not due to increase with the new stadium. Most of the extra seats will be for corporate tickets. We can't really complain either cos without the corporates we won't have a stadium.

    If you're reasonably high on the list you'll probably get on it in the next year or two anyway because alot of people will drop off the actual list because of the year of friendlies ahead.
    also, i would imagine that a lot of companies currently have block booking tickets and when they switch to the new corporate / premium ones more block booking tickets will become available to the ordinary fan

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    one good thing is that all the suits and prawn sandwhich brigade will be stuck together in one part of the stadium and it will give the ordinary joe a chance to get behind the team and cheer them on (for once).

    I didnt see any screen in the artists impression , is there going to be one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne
    also, i would imagine that a lot of companies currently have block booking tickets and when they switch to the new corporate / premium ones more block booking tickets will become available to the ordinary fan
    I can't see anybody on the BB list switching to corporate seats. The cost difference is huge.

    I do think it is a great chance now for people to get on the BB list. A couple of mickey mouse friendlies and the prospect of easier tickets in Croke Park may encourage some BBers to give up.

    However this is always assuming the f.A.I. continue with current BB levels.

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    God its mad looking, doesn't exactly fit in with the skyline. Hard not to see a long dragged out planning battle.

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    there is another thread already started on the new landsdowne road

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    scrap it imo

    so its the city of manchester stadium with three tiers on three sides and one tier on one end? bertie bowl aside they should've moved to abbotstown.

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    Looks great from the pic on that site, reminds me of the Olympic stadium in Munich (the nicest looking stadium from outside IMO) to an extent.
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    Looks good apart from the North side. Too few seats down there. I assume this is where the away allocation will be. Call me old fashioned but i preferred when there was Irish fans behind both goals and the away supporters tucked away in the corner.
    Resign, now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn_Run
    . Call me old fashioned but i preferred when there was Irish fans behind both goals and the away supporters tucked away in the corner.
    Yeah, that was better. Keep them in their place!

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    Ive being on the block booking list for a while, prob be on it for a few years yet. Can anyone tell me whats the price of it at the mo??

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    Where do the bucket seats go.......?

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    Looks a bit too fake. Wheres all the tramps with the orange wigs, leprechaun hats and silly plastic hammers

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    Allianz Arena in Munich

    Amazing looking stadium.
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    from the irish times
    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ire...M6FRANKMC.html
    Swirling glass bowl truly outstanding




    The new stadium will be a spectacular addition to Dublin, writes Frank McDonald.

    All images tell a story, and the photomontages released yesterday by the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company of the spectacular bowl that will replace the existing hodge-podge of stands on the site are as compelling as early images of the new Croke Park.

    The swirling profile of the roofline evokes a Mexican wave - "dropping when it needs to and rising when it wants to", in the words of project architect Chris Lee. And in a way, we have the residents of Havelock Square and O'Connell Gardens to thank for this truly amazing shape.

    It was one of the constraints in designing the stadium that it shouldn't overshadow the nearby cottage-style houses. That's also the reason why it's relatively translucent, with a facade made from what HOK Architects describe as "glass shingles" to let light pass through it.

    Neither is it a "bottom-drawer" project by HOK, which is one of the world's leading designers of sports facilities, including Arsenal's new stadium in London.

    "The whole design is driven by the site," Mr Lee said. "This is not architecture flown in from somewhere else."

    And the site is very much constrained physically - by the Dart line to the west, the pitches of Wanderers and Lansdowne rugby clubs to the east, the low-rise housing around Havelock and Vavasour Squares to the north and, of course, Lansdowne Road itself, to the south.

    Nonetheless, the footprint of the planned 50,000-seat stadium is 20 per cent larger than the existing ground - fatter, if not longer. There will also be a 12½-metre underpass beneath the Dart line, so that rugby and soccer fans will no longer be blocked by the level crossing.

    To avoid any impact on Dart services, a "crash deck" is to be erected over the line while the west stand is being demolished. This will then be turned into a lively, potentially sun-drenched public plaza, some two acres in extent, from which fans will enter and exit the stadium.

    Because of its smaller size, the new stadium will be more intimate than Croke Park. Its design also takes more account of acoustics for concerts - something neglected by the GAA. The roof at the north end, where it dips down, will be the most translucent - again, in deference to local residents.

    "We spent lovely summer afternoons visiting residents in Havelock Square and O'Connell Gardens, to see the site from their side," said Niall Scott, of Scott Tallon Walker, which is working with HOK on the project. "The design evolved to take their needs into account."

    Had the stadium been turned around on its axis, east-west, rather than north-south, as several commentators have advocated, the impact on residents would have been much more severe. There was also a determination to produce a low energy building, with minimum use of air-conditioning. The glazed facade will let plenty of air in to the concourses, but it won't be "whistling through".

    Because of the very high water table in the area, just 1½ metres below the surface, there will be no basement. Changing rooms and most services will be installed at ground level, behind the lowest level, which will contain some 20,000 seats, and run continuously.

    The three upper tiers wrapping around three sides of the stadium will provide 10,000 premium seats, corporate boxes for 1,300 - designed so that even their occupants will feel part of the spectacle - and 18,000 ordinary seats on raking tiers above - "the gods", in effect.

    The plans for Lansdowne Road have gone through several "iterations", but one feels the latest team of architects have got it right. Whatever about Nimby (Not in my back yard) opposition from people living in the locality, this will be a spectacular addition to Dublin. And in the only place for it too.

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    irish times
    Many hurdles still have to be crossed
    Gerry Thornley, Rugby Correspondent




    Timetable: The Government has set a timetable of 10 weeks from now for lodging a planning application for the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road.

    The developers hope work will begin in spring 2007, with the project due to be completed within 27 months.

    The first of the logistical difficulties will be in appeasing the local residents, though for all the consultative process, Philip Browne, chairman of the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company, is under no illusions they will face an appeal with An Bord Pleanála.

    "I think it would be foolish to plan otherwise with a building of this size," said Mr Browne.

    Discussions have been taking place with CIÉ and Irish Rail about the demolition, which will have to take place over the Dart line, although ultimately "we hope to alleviate the problem for Irish Rail for evermore by taking the stadium completely off the Dart line".

    An Iarnród Éireann spokesman said it was concerned about the potential impact on services during construction. However, he said the inclusion of underpasses for commuters in the design offered benefits in the long run. He said Irish Rail could not say how long services might be disrupted for until it received more detailed plans.

    The asbestos in the roof panels of the West Stand, typical of buildings in the 1950s, will not add significantly to the cost, Mr Browne said.

    "This is a big bang project, whereas Croke Park was a phased project," he added, confirming that the ground will be closed for the duration of the development.

    The preferred destination for games when the ground is closed is Croke Park and to that end negotiations with the GAA have already started.

    "Hopefully we can sort out an arrangement there," said Mr Browne. "If that works, that will be great. I think it is everyone's preference and hopefully all three organisations can work together, and I'm sure that they can."

    Mr Browne does not foresee any difficulties with the tenant clubs, Lansdowne and Wanderers, whom the union are helping to find a temporary alternative facility as well as financial compensation.

    When the new design is completed, there will be one back pitch as opposed to two.

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ire...6THORNLEY.html


    © The Irish Times

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    Only seen the pictures properly today & low level at north end does look very strange. Still theres no doubt that the stadium will be much nicer looking & more spectacular than Croke Park which IMO has too much concrete.

    If Frank MacDonald says its good for Dublin thats some achievement.
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    Question: Allianz Stadium, Munich cost circa 250m, 60000 seats
    Lansdowne Road, Cost circa 350m (which will rise to 600m probably), 50000 seats .........

    Ah those Fianna Fail builders........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldini98
    Question: Allianz Stadium, Munich cost circa 250m, 60000 seats
    Lansdowne Road, Cost circa 350m (which will rise to 600m probably), 50000 seats ...
    Nice simplistic way of looking at something. Don't consider any of the key factors, sure they only complicate things.

    By the way, it's the Allianz Arena and its capacity is 66,000.
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    Jesus, if I see another graphic generated projection of a new stadium here I'll go mad. Someone, somewhere, is making a fortune in graphic drawings of stadiums in this country which are never built or developed. We must be the leading country in the world for such things.

    I'll believe it when I see it in 2022 (I know they say 2009) as we qualify for the World Cup in Ulan Batar, having just lost out on goal difference to playing in the previous one in England.

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