Lansdowne Road Redevelopment Thread

**drummerboy** · 27/04/2005, 10:56 AM

Judging by the comments of a woman living in the shadow of Landsdowne on TV3 last week, there's going to be huge objections. No disrespect to the residents of Croke Park but the southsiders around Landsdowne will have a lot more financial clout and in this country money talks.

**eirebhoy** · 27/04/2005, 2:22 PM

There aren't many houses on Lansdowne Road anyway. I'm trying to picture them in my head but I don't think there's more than 10. Is there? There's a load of offices at the Berkeley Court end and when you go down past the turnstiles there's a few houses. Nothing much though. If anyone from Shelbourne Road are complaining they have no right imo. Its too far away.

Jesus, a 4 story building (apartments) has just been built at the back of my house. They spent over a year doing them and the tradesmen are in there atm. There was no way you'd get a lie-on in the morning with the noise of them. There is no sunshine in my back garden any more. I could go on forever but I (and about 10 residents) appealed against the planning permission and absolutely nothing was done about it.

What exactly would the residents be complaining about in this case? Maybe if its residents in the Havlock square end I could understand but surely not Lansdowne road?

**drummerboy** · 27/04/2005, 2:31 PM

The woman interviewed was in her back garden in Havlock Square. She sounded very determined.

**drummerboy** · 27/04/2005, 2:32 PM

The woman interviewed was in her back garden in Havlock Square. She sounded very determined but having I agree planning permission seems to be obtained a lot easier now that say 5 years ago.

**OwlsFan** · 27/04/2005, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by roboyle

I live beside Lansdowne Road and can't wait for the disruption to start!

Try living beside the Balally/Shopping shopping centre when that was being built

. At least the Lansdowne locals will only get disturbance on match days when its built. We have thousands going to shopping centre every day.

If I see another artist's impression of a proposed stadium in this country I'll go mad. Between beautiful drawings of Eircom Park, the Bertie Bowl and now Lansdowne the graphic artists in this country must be making a fortune.

Why, by the way, did the Croker people go for a standing area in Hill 16 ? Couldn't afford a stand, planning problems or something else ? Takes away from the overall effect of the stadium I think.

**Stuttgart88** · 27/04/2005, 2:40 PM

Brendan Mullen lives on Lansdowne Road I think & his missus wrote to the paper a few years ago complaining about redeveloping Lansdowne. Like she could afford to live there if hubby hadn't made his name playing there...

Apologies to Mrs. Mullen if I'm mistaken!

**eirebhoy** · 27/04/2005, 2:45 PM

OK, so if its Havlock Square residents its obviously over noise of construction. If I can't get anything done about a 4 story building in front of my back garden, builders causing disruption for a year and the dust going all over my house. I don't see how anyone can do anything about this. All we wanted was the building to be reduced in size. This person just wants compensation, without a doubt.

**pete** · 27/04/2005, 2:50 PM

The houses on lansdowne road will have little excuse for an objection as theres a road & their front garden between them & the stadium. Stadium will be more or the same size as previously. Complaining about match day activities isn't valid either as there won't be any change to that & the IRFU already have a licence for so many concerts per year.

Apparently the GAA own a lot of the houses surrounding Croke Park so hard for tenants to complain.

**fosterdollar** · 27/04/2005, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Try living beside the Balally/Shopping shopping centre when that was being built

. At least the Lansdowne locals will only get disturbance on match days when its built. We have thousands going to shopping centre every day.

Tell me about it, it's only one third built still and loads of construction ongoing. Car is caked in dust everytime i come out to it.

I reckon the push for a green field site may have been better pushed as planning will be hard to get in Lansdowne even if granting is inevitable. Also, seating will defo be limited to less than 50k

**roboyle** · 29/04/2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Why, by the way, did the Croker people go for a standing area in Hill 16 ? Couldn't afford a stand, planning problems or something else ? Takes away from the overall effect of the stadium I think.

As far as I know (and I'd like to think I've kept an eye on the situation

) it was always the intention of the GAA to reconstruct the Hill as a standing area. The possibility of a second tier along the lines of the preium level on the other three sides of the pitch was shot down pretty early as this would have been difficult to do with the train line immediately behind the Hill (more in the way that at the other end of the stadium) and the additional expense/work which would ahve been needed because of it. I know the GAA tried to buy a load of houses behind the train line but some people weren't willing to sell... I was on the Hill on Sunday and it's a fine construction - think it was built for �6 million LESS than the GAA budgeted for but it has all the room needed underneath the stand to cope with a capacity crowd.

**NeilMcD** · 29/04/2005, 12:09 PM

Also it was left as a Terrace probably for the Dublin supporters to sing etc. Lots of supporters in England are pretty ****ed off about the loss of safe terraces.

**Paulie** · 29/04/2005, 1:20 PM

I heard the Minister for Arts, Sport & Tourism, John O'Donoghue, talking about the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road on the radio a few days ago. He said that by the end of this year, early next year, they will be in a position to submit their planning application. They will expect a decision on this by early 2007. The estimated building time is two and a half years which brings us to late 2009. So, this means that if the application is made on time, if there are no objections to the application and the building process is also completed within the estimated timeframe that we will have our redeveloped stadium in approximately four and a half years. With our recent record when it comes to such matters I won't believe this is going to happen at all until I'm sitting in my brand spanking new seat cheering us on.

**Stuttgart88** · 29/04/2005, 1:29 PM

We're not the worst though.

In Zambia the national football stadium was named after some prominent Swedish diplomat who was held in high esteem locally.

The Zambians thought it'd be a good idea to redevelop the stadium so they knocked it down and then went to the Swedish government for money. The Swedes declined for some odd reason like "why the **** should we?" and the Zambians were left with a nice pile of rubble.

Not sure on the exact specifics but this is by-and-large what happened I think.

**A face** · 11/05/2005, 1:36 PM

Plans on schedule for Lansdowne Road Stadium development

The appointment of a company that helped produce the masterplan for the re-development of Croke Park and other major stadiums such as the new Wembley, the Emirates Stadium for Arsenal, Wimbledon Centre Court and the Ascot Racecourse, marked a major leap forward in the planning process of the new �292m stadium at Lansdowne Road.

The new Stadium�s Design Team will be headed by HOK sport architecture, the world�s leading sports architecture practice, based in London, Kansas City and Brisbane. Through its three offices across the world, HOK sport architecture offers a uniquely fertile environment for innovative design.

Read more at www.fai.ie

**Peadar** · 11/05/2005, 1:59 PM

Could we get this added as a sticky so that we reduce the number of Lansdowne Road threads?

**Stuttgart88** · 11/05/2005, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by A face

HOK sport architecture offers a uniquely fertile environment for innovative design.

What kind of corporate mumbo jumbo PR wankology is that? !

**fosterdollar** · 19/08/2005, 10:15 AM

Unison.ie

Delaney's report, which was due to be circulated to the 61 National Council members by email last night, emerged in somewhat bizarre circumstances as it was also inadvertently sent to all addresses on the FAI's extensive media list.

P!ss up. Brewery.