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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenforever View Post
    I'd agree but it would also be foolhardy of JD to get involved in litigation which could cost the FAI a lot of money even if they were to win.

    Better to stick to getting the stadium up and running and then having a laugh at the crap written.

    You are probably right but one decent legal payout would make the rest of them think twice.

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    The Independent are always the first to have a dig at the FAI & I believe they started this "no money" one. Symptomatic of poor Irish sports journalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    The Independent are always the first to have a dig at the FAI & I believe they started this "no money" one. Symptomatic of poor Irish sports journalism.
    To be fair to the Indo, it was Fine Gael who started the rumours and the Indo is carrying them through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Student Mullet View Post
    To be fair to the Indo, it was Fine Gael who started the rumours and the Indo is carrying them through.
    and fine gael have been very very quiet since the fai pointed out to them that their quoted final cost figure was wrong as they had incorrectly included vat that the stadium is not subject to pay.

    surely the paper should do its own research before printing such tripe and not rely on fine gaels propoganda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    surely the paper should do its own research before printing such tripe and not rely on fine gaels propoganda?
    You would have thought so but the more I learn about journalism, the less faith I have in the profession.

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    Has anyone been to a bank looking for a loan lately?

    Like most things in life, the true state of the finances are somewhere between the Indo's "shocka" headline and some of the "nothing to see here, all is well" posts on here.

    Not getting the debentures (10 year tickets) sold before the economy tanked (as the IRFU did) was a big, big mistake. In any other business someone would be out of a job, but as we all know, the FAI isn't like any other business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Has anyone been to a bank looking for a loan lately?

    Like most things in life, the true state of the finances are somewhere between the Indo's "shocka" headline and some of the "nothing to see here, all is well" posts on here.

    Not getting the debentures (10 year tickets) sold before the economy tanked (as the IRFU did) was a big, big mistake. In any other business someone would be out of a job, but as we all know, the FAI isn't like any other business.
    the fai 10 yr tickets were never going to sell as quick as the rugby. the corporate demands alone on the rugby games has led to a big waiting list for 10 yr tickets. like any business the fai has to pick the right time to sell otherwise it could have been a disaster. when would have been a good time to launch the sale during stans time? with trappatoni appointed and the possibility of results improving they were right to hold off on the sale. the fai of today are a different world from a few years ago in relation to business. but sure they are a safe bet to knock for some

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    the fai 10 yr tickets were never going to sell as quick as the rugby. the corporate demands alone on the rugby games has led to a big waiting list for 10 yr tickets. like any business the fai has to pick the right time to sell otherwise it could have been a disaster. when would have been a good time to launch the sale during stans time? with trappatoni appointed and the possibility of results improving they were right to hold off on the sale. the fai of today are a different world from a few years ago in relation to business. but sure they are a safe bet to knock for some
    They didn't "hold off", the deal fell through.

    Whatever about Stan's failings, I think it was clear to anyone that a time when we sold 70k tickets for a game with Cyprus was as good a time as any to be selling 10 year tickets.

    The state of the economy is a much bigger driver of the corporate hospitality market than relative success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Whatever about Stan's failings, I think it was clear to anyone that a time when we sold 70k tickets for a game with Cyprus was as good a time as any to be selling tickets.
    I don't know, a time when 20,000+ of them didn't bother to turn up mightn't be the best!

    I don't know the details but I'd be surprised if the FAI deliberately decided not to sell the 10-year tickets because of recent results. Surely any they sold would be a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Whatever about Stan's failings, I think it was clear to anyone that a time when we sold 70k tickets for a game with Cyprus was as good a time as any to be selling 10 year tickets.
    I disagree. Most of those tickets were sold well in advance & paired with Germany which is why so maybe empty seats. The FAI are damned if they did & damned if they didn't on this one. Trying to sell without proper structures in place would have returned poor value. I still think they will have no problem selling as long as don't target property Developers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    They didn't "hold off", the deal fell through.

    Whatever about Stan's failings, I think it was clear to anyone that a time when we sold 70k tickets for a game with Cyprus was as good a time as any to be selling 10 year tickets.

    The state of the economy is a much bigger driver of the corporate hospitality market than relative success.
    there was no more than 55,000 max at the cyprus match and most of those were people who had block booked tickets with the german game or the campaign as a whole. if those tickets went on sale on their own a few weeks before the game the crowd would have been far far less. sure we didnt even sell-out the german game! i'm not 100% up to speed on what happened on the fai 10 yr ticket sale to date but i'm pretty sure that no deal has fallen through as this quote from delaney would support...

    “ISG has not pulled out of any negotiations,” he said. “We’re currently recruiting a sales team with ISG to go to the market in September"

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    http://www.irishexaminer.com/text/st...7xx4&n=4917015
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    The bottom line is that the FAI has to borrow money, that was always going to be the case, so it's a non-story. I'm sure the IRFU is in the same boat despite having more cash in the bank: http://www.irfu.ie/283_12640.php?PHP...acc315a90903a8
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    money always seems to be a problem!

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    Article in today's independent about the work done on Lansdowne Road so far: http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-1439142.html
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    New progress pictures here

    http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/photocat...CID=34&NCID=68

    Looking good.

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    1300 corporate boxes , hells bells I didn't know that before .

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    seems to be coming on well.

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    Not exactly.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Claret Murph View Post
    1300 corporate boxes , hells bells I didn't know that before .
    The box level (tier 3) will have a combined total of 1300 SEATS....To see the finished stadium in advance, have a look at Arsenals and Benficas new grounds,both are carbon copies of the new Lansdowne, albeit on 3 sides, and a variation on roof design.

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    Was down in the vicinity today. Progress looking good. I like the montage of progress from the Official site:

    http://www.lrsdc.ie/_fileupload/File/Progress.pdf
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    it looks like a rollercoaster ride in the last picture maybe they should have built that on top.

    there is a huge difference between the picture on the 18th of october and the 2nd last one, and where did they get all those people from for the photo?!
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