Apologies for posting that game was on tonight (Wednesday), i didnt realise it was last night, (Tuesday), didnt even know result! i was talking about something I didnt realise happened.Originally Posted by ComeOnTownNow
That game is on tonight (wednesday) and if both teams have any sense, they should send their B Teams down to represent them (no disrespect to both B Teams) - it's just a pointless game - imaging saying that, Town .v. Saints game pointless at this stage of season!
Apologies for posting that game was on tonight (Wednesday), i didnt realise it was last night, (Tuesday), didnt even know result! i was talking about something I didnt realise happened.
That is a valid point. You must add as well that McKeever retired so that was going to be a major change and a period of transition. It is great credit to Town that they have managed to get this far. It is good that the league is competitive. Cashel and my own club Cahir Park are making good progress on and off the field. The more clubs progressing, the better the league.
I also spoke to Muiris this morning. He wasn't really in the mood for talking, have to say he sounded very down about things. He reassured me that he was fine but also said that he wouldn't be returning to football anytime soon. As I said yesterday a great man and a huge loss to football. A measure of the man was that he said that Clonmel Town had given him so many happy days both as a supporter and as his time as PRO, that he could never have done enough for the club. He also hoped that people would leave the issue alone that Clonmel Town wasn't about him but the great players they have at all levels. I will respect this true football man wishes. As genuine a bloke as I have met in any walk of life.sad loss to the game
When can we expect word from arbitration?
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It has been mentioned several times about Robbie Costigans registration. It is stated his registration was posted on 31st March and Clonmel Town have a receipt to prove it. If that is so, why don't Clonmel Town just play him. If anybody subsequently objects Clonmel Town have cast-iron proof he was registered. If the registration is fully compliant with the rules of the game, the committee of the TSDL have no case. So go ahead and play him.
On the question of ''needing a change'' the time is approaching when clubs will be given the democratic right to make changes at the TSDL AGM. If clubs are unhappy with the present officers or committee now is the time to canvass for replacements.
There is some load of hypocrisy on this site. You have people banging on about throwing Pike out because they broke the rules and at the same time they're asking Tommy Lewis to bend rules about registration/suspensions in favour of Town. If he is acting incorrectly why don't Town just appeal his decision? I guarantee you that if Town played say Fairview in the FAI Junior Cup final and they heard the Limerick League bent their rules in favour of Fairview regarding suspensions/registrations you'd have the same people on here kicking up loads. Get real and stop blaming the wrong people.
Tipp Top, can I assume that if Town believe that the TSDL has acted inproperly or unfairly regarding these suspensions that they have appealed this decision? If not, why not? Craig Condon was sent off in a league match in January and on enquiring Celtic were advised that he was available for the next FAI Junior Cup game as his suspension only applied to games in the competition in which he was sent off i.e. league games. I don't understand why the Moroney situation is different to his. I assume Town has asked this question?
And to back up what nononsense has said, at the TSDL AGM every year they always ask for nominees from the clubs for their committee but never get anyone interested. They say they only run the league on behalf of the clubs and if people are unhappy the way they run the league why don't they get involved and change things?
I will also echoe those sentiments of luck for the cup final,i think Celtic are an excellent side and silverware 2 years running would be great and well deserved
If you have been at any of the last 10 TSDL AGM'S you would know that the committee only has 5 of the 9 posts fielded and they look for new members to come forward every year. If 4 people put their names forward at the next AGM they would be automatically on the new committee. It's funny Clonmel fan saying Lewis only looks after 1 team and any saints fan will tell you Lewis is harder on them. We might all have run ins with him now and then, but when he goes 'and Richie will go with him ' all of the clubs will have to stand up and be counted to keep the show on the road.
our league would be nothing without tommy lewis, its the best run league in the country, we dont have major fixture problems like other leagues, all our leagues finish on time dont drag on , when he steps down mark my words tsdl will become a shambles, we dont know how lucky we are to have him and as was said earlier we wont realise that till he steps down. i also think its disrespectfull slating him and talking about him , so can we please get back to onfield matters
if it wasnt for birds and booze id have played for ireland juniors!!!!!
Both Rock Rovers and Rosegreen were fined last year. If you fail to fulfill 1 fixture it is €100- €200 2 games €200 - €300 if you fail to fulfill 3 games you are kick out of the league and it is up to the new committee if you are allowed back in next season. As for clubs not having games at the end of the season, what do you expect if the top teams are having cup runs and the lower teams are knocked out before February, the cups games have mostly got set dates so league games have to be put back. It is the same in Limerick and any league that has teams with long Munster and National cup runs.
Your comments just prove how little you understand what is involved in running a league.
Rosegreen failed to fulfill 4 fixtures and were supposed to be relegated to 4th division but never happened,rock dont turn up for at least 3 games each season and lets be fair tommy lewis hammered town last season with crazy fixtures...3 a week?
I have to agree on most of everything you say Roberto. I am not a member of Town but from what I can see and hear there is a lot of animosity towards Lewis and I think that is unfair. Yes he does run a great league and both he and Richard Power will be sorely missed when they go. My frustration is around the Robbie Costigan registration. I hear what you are saying about bending or breaking the rules. This is not the case. From what I am told,Town did everything correctly and by the rules. Why then is Lewis and the TSDL holding his registration up? I don't know if Town are appealing to the Munster FA but I imagine they are. If I was a cynic, I would say that this proves that Lewis is trying to "do" Town as this is the only logical explanation. I cannot believe that Town given all that’s gone with Pike etc and what happened to them 3 years ago, would take any chances on any players registration. They would be very foolish and stupid if they did. I just don't believe that they would. I don't think Town would go down the road of trying to break any rules.
I think that is fair. But the broader issue here is clubs feeling that Lewis and the TSDL are against them, which is not the case. it is a very tough job and I believe if and obviously when Lewis goes, the league is in danger of falling apart. There needs to be fresh blood on the TSDL committee. The situation cannot continue.
In relation to Robbie. If everything was in order, I can't see how there would be a problem. Lewis and the league are on the ball with these things. I do on the other hand would find it very hard to believe that Town deliberately broke any rules. As you say with every thing that went on, it would be very, very stupid
Not only would it be stupid but It would be just wrong and I would call it cheating!! I think Clonmel Town are above that!! and to suggest otehrwise is simply wrong. Even if you dislike Town, they are a honourable club and don't do things like this
More importantly any news on Moroney's and Smurf's suspensions. Are they gone for MJC and FAI Semi?
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Can you just look at the Costigan registration issue from another angle. If Lewis said go ahead and play Costigan and he then plays in an FAI Junior Cup game against, say St Michaels, and Town win and reach the final. Then St Michaels lodge an appeal and following an investigation by the FAI it is discovered that Costigan wasn't registered in time. Who would you take your anger out on?? Correct, Lewis. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The issue of the registration can't be that difficult i.e. he was either registered in time or not. As I said before if Town think they are correct an appeal will confirm the case. Maybe Lewis is acting in Town's interest regarding the registration issue i.e. trying to make sure everything is above aboard so there won't be any comebacks. Just an alternative view
Thats a fair point and I do agree with you. Yes you are correct Lewis would get the blame. Surely though the registered letter is proof and that is black and white or am I missing something. Anyway, we will find out soon enough. I am more concerned with the suspensionsCan you just look at the Costigan registration issue from another angle. If Lewis said go ahead and play Costigan and he then plays in an FAI Junior Cup game against, say St Michaels, and Town win and reach the final. Then St Michaels lodge an appeal and following an investigation by the FAI it is discovered that Costigan wasn't registered in time. Who would you take your anger out on?? Correct, Lewis. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The issue of the registration can't be that difficult i.e. he was either registered in time or not. As I said before if Town think they are correct an appeal will confirm the case. Maybe Lewis is acting in Town's interest regarding the registration issue i.e. trying to make sure everything is above aboard so there won't be any comebacks. Just an alternative view
i wish town all the best and yes they are usually an honourable club. however that is in danger of changing with the management team that are currently involved. even with the bad blood that was between the teams after a recent incident it was a shame to see that a team who have won the league for the last 6 years would not stay on the pitch while peake were presented with the cup in the complex last weekend. i dont blame the players at all, they were ordered from the pitch, showed very little class. and before ye say anything i hope costigan is allowed play and i wish all tsdl teams the best in national cups, but dont go overboard on the town and ' honourable club ' waffle, because it doesnt ring true anymore...............
I wasn't aware that happened as I left before the end- thats disgraceful pure and simple
Well lads, I'm new to this site and was reading all your comments on the suspensions and I find it really hard to understand why the league would not be willing to assist a team like Town who have a chance to create history by winning the FAI and Munster. I play in the Waterford League and something like this would never happen, but in saying that the fixture issue is a problem in most leagues.
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