Tipp South & District League 2009/10

**Quietman** · 29/04/2010, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan

Please dont turn this post in to the FAI Thread!

Good point we've all had our say. Lets move on and await the replay!! Can't wait!

**zizu's head** · 29/04/2010, 2:22 PM

Originally Posted by Insidetherock

So, in this case, once it became clear that Peake were going to continue playing, did the Clonmel Town players simply stop playing ? If they did, then they really cannot complain about the outcome.

This is the main point on this whole matter!!
When the Clonmel players saw that Peake intended to keep possession and play on, why did they just stand there and let them?? Surely the natural reaction would be to defend?
This is where this whole "expectation" that the ball will be given back becomes a farce!
I AM NOT saying that what Peake did was OK, nor am I saying that Clonmel Town were right to react ( or not react !! ). There is no rule to say that the ball "must" be given back, its as simple as that!!

**Insidetherock** · 29/04/2010, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by zizu's head

This is the main point on this whole matter!!
When the Clonmel players saw that Peake intended to keep possession and play on, why did they just stand there and let them?? Surely the natural reaction would be to defend?
This is where this whole "expectation" that the ball will be given back becomes a farce!
I AM NOT saying that what Peake did was OK, nor am I saying that Clonmel Town were right to react ( or not react !! ). There is no rule to say that the ball "must" be given back, its as simple as that!!

My point exactly.

If Clonmel Town's player had simply followed the most basic rule of football, thought I imagine to their under-6's, there wouldn't be an issue.

Play to the whistle.

**Quietman** · 29/04/2010, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by Insidetherock

My point exactly.

If Clonmel Town's player had simply followed the most basic rule of football, thought I imagine to their under-6's, there wouldn't be an issue.

Play to the whistle.

HELLO, they wern't waiting for a whistle!!!!!

**Tipp Top** · 29/04/2010, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by Quietman

HELLO, they wern't waiting for a whistle!!!!!

The back 4 had pushed up,the throw was just across from the 18 yard box there were no defenders between fogarty and the goals as Villa had said they were returning the ball,none of this defending rubbish is relevant

**Insidetherock** · 29/04/2010, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tipp Top

The back 4 had pushed up,the throw was just across from the 18 yard box there were no defenders between fogarty and the goals as Villa had said they were returning the ball,none of this defending rubbish is relevant

It's perfectly relevant. You look after your own team and your own interests first. If they had played their own game and not had to worry about who the ball was been thrown into, there wouldn't have been a problem.

**Redman028** · 30/04/2010, 10:30 AM

The Fai and the Munster junior cup have turned in to a bit of a farce this season so the last thing we need is the T.S.D.L to go down the same route. Hopefully Tom Lewis and Co will sort this situation out immediatley so we can then get on with the league and put this latest mess to the back of our minds

**Pearoso27** · 30/04/2010, 10:47 AM

Someone correct me if im wrong (NO DOUBT SOMEONE WILL) but the TSDL Premier league table has been updated with the results of Tuesday nights game. So am i to assume that the result stands between Clonmel and Peake???
Just another couple of questions one of you might help me with if Aaroon received a straight red for what im assuming was violent conduct will he receive a 3 game ban? Could he possibly miss out on the FAI Semi Final who ever Town end up playing in it and i think it was Scully who got injured in the game how bad was his injury? Will he be out for long if at all?

**nononsense** · 30/04/2010, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Pearoso27

Someone correct me if im wrong (NO DOUBT SOMEONE WILL) but the TSDL Premier league table has been updated with the results of Tuesday nights game. So am i to assume that the result stands between Clonmel and Peake???
Just another couple of questions one of you might help me with if Aaroon received a straight red for what im assuming was violent conduct will he receive a 3 game ban? Could he possibly miss out on the FAI Semi Final who ever Town end up playing in it and i think it was Scully who got injured in the game how bad was his injury? Will he be out for long if at all?

The league table DOESNOT and cannot take into account any game which failed to conclude until the relevant authority adjudicates on the outcome.
Any player given a red card in a league game automatically misses the next league game. Any further punishment, if necessary, will be decided by the relevant authority based on the referee's report.

**saintsfan** · 30/04/2010, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Redman028

The Fai and the Munster junior cup have turned in to a bit of a farce this season so the last thing we need is the T.S.D.L to go down the same route. Hopefully Tom Lewis and Co will sort this situation out immediatley so we can then get on with the league and put this latest mess to the back of our minds

good point, like i said earlier, dont turn this thread into the FAI thread, just get on with it at this stage, I would assume Aaron Moroney will miss 3 games like Pearso27 said for a straight red, whether it is league, fai or whatever, dont think it matters what way they fall, the punishment just goes hand in hand with whatever games are coming up.

**Tipp Top** · 30/04/2010, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Pearoso27

Someone correct me if im wrong (NO DOUBT SOMEONE WILL) but the TSDL Premier league table has been updated with the results of Tuesday nights game. So am i to assume that the result stands between Clonmel and Peake???
Just another couple of questions one of you might help me with if Aaroon received a straight red for what im assuming was violent conduct will he receive a 3 game ban? Could he possibly miss out on the FAI Semi Final who ever Town end up playing in it and i think it was Scully who got injured in the game how bad was his injury? Will he be out for long if at all?

The league table does not have the points from the Town and Villa game updated on it. Both teams have 3 and 2 games left to play as was the case prior to Tuesday.The points haven't changed for either team on the Tabel.

**MunsterMunch** · 30/04/2010, 1:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tipp Top

The league table does not have the points from the Town and Villa game updated on it. Both teams have 3 and 2 games left to play as was the case prior to Tuesday.The points haven't changed for either team on the Tabel.

So judging by the current table, a win for Villa on Sunday guarantees them a playoff at least.
I can't see Clonmel Cetlic slipping up on Sunday, so 36 points is the target.
Michaels can still get to that amount if they win all their games, so anything but a win on Sunday means they are out of the reckoning.

Either way the replay between Town and Peake will mean Peake will be looking for a result for either the league outright or a playoff!

Hell, it could even be a three way tie at the top with all teams on 36 points!! What happens in that case?

**Roberto** · 30/04/2010, 2:18 PM

Originally Posted by MunsterMunch

So judging by the current table, a win for Villa on Sunday guarantees them a playoff at least.
I can't see Clonmel Cetlic slipping up on Sunday, so 36 points is the target.
Michaels can still get to that amount if they win all their games, so anything but a win on Sunday means they are out of the reckoning.

Either way the replay between Town and Peake will mean Peake will be looking for a result for either the league outright or a playoff!

Hell, it could even be a three way tie at the top with all teams on 36 points!! What happens in that case?

If they all finish on 36 points (which is a possibility) I'd imagine there will be a 3 way play off. However if they are still level after a mini round robin I don't know what happens

**Tipp Top** · 30/04/2010, 3:18 PM

I understand its a delicate subject but all Villa players seem to be ashamed and apologetic for their team mates actions and thats to be applauded but does the clubs failure to punish the player send out a message that Peake Villa condone cheating,there is a hell of a lot of schoolboys in that club and i think Peake Villas silence on the matter speaks volumes? Surely the club needs to act in the interest of their own good name? Ron mentioned a goodwill gesture? maybe the club secretary might return the money he insisted on being refunded in the aftermath of the game

**Insidetherock** · 30/04/2010, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Tipp Top

I understand its a delicate subject but all Villa players seem to be ashamed and apologetic for their team mates actions and thats to be applauded but does the clubs failure to punish the player send out a message that Peake Villa condone cheating,there is a hell of a lot of schoolboys in that club and i think Peake Villas silence on the matter speaks volumes? Surely the club needs to act in the interest of their own good name? Ron mentioned a goodwill gesture? maybe the club secretary might return the money he insisted on being refunded in the aftermath of the game

Hold on a minute Tipp Top.. perhaps you could reconsider that post. No Peake Villa player cheated.

He may have been unsportsmanlike.. but there is a difference between that and cheating. I think you should edit your post to reflect this as it is an unwelcome and unecessary slur on Peake.

Also, they should not punish the player. How many clubs do you see punishing their own players for actually cheating ? How many are punished for diving ? For holding an attacking players jersey at a corner ? For encroaching at a free kick ?

All of the above are actual cheating ... playing to the whistle isn't.

**the 12 th man** · 01/05/2010, 2:04 AM

I think we've had enough debate on this for the moment,can we wait for the official outcome? as it's just going round in circles on this thread.

**ponyobrien** · 02/05/2010, 4:03 PM

Clonmel Celtic 3-1 Old Bridge. Bridge relegated.

Peake Villa 2-1 St. Michaels. So now that Villa v Town fixture will decide the league. Villa only need a draw. A town victory will leave a Celtic v Villa playoff.