Tipp South & District League 2009/10

**useless** · 12/10/2009, 10:13 AM

Hi Lads,

Im looking for clarification on a matter that happened recently to one of our players.

During a league game the player was booked for a missed timed tackle.Later on in the same game the same player had a verbal argument with the referee about a decision that he taught the ref had made wrong.There was some swear words used as there is in every game but he did not call the ref any unsavoury names.The ref gave the same player a strong and lengthy talking to and that was it no second yellow card.The game eneded and both teams and ref went there seperate ways.

Two weeks later the club recieved a phone call from Tommy Lewis stating the player in question had recieved a 2 game ban for abusive language towards the referree.

Can a player be suspended after a match even though the ref hadnt sent the same player off.Instead he decides to put it in his match report.If this is the case whats to stop refs doing this to players they may have a dislike towards.Its surely just a case of the refs word against the players word and we all know who will get the benefit of the doubt.

Hope someone can put some clarity on this.

**ponyobrien** · 12/10/2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by useless

Hi Lads,

Im looking for clarification on a matter that happened recently to one of our players.

During a league game the player was booked for a missed timed tackle.Later on in the same game the same player had a verbal argument with the referee about a decision that he taught the ref had made wrong.There was some swear words used as there is in every game but he did not call the ref any unsavoury names.The ref gave the same player a strong and lengthy talking to and that was it no second yellow card.The game eneded and both teams and ref went there seperate ways.

Two weeks later the club recieved a phone call from Tommy Lewis stating the player in question had recieved a 2 game ban for abusive language towards the referree.

Can a player be suspended after a match even though the ref hadnt sent the same player off.Instead he decides to put it in his match report.If this is the case whats to stop refs doing this to players they may have a dislike towards.Its surely just a case of the refs word against the players word and we all know who will get the benefit of the doubt.

Hope someone can put some clarity on this.

It's happened to us before as well, when a ref lied in his report, but the TSDL Committee still fined us.

**Referee09** · 12/10/2009, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by useless

Hi Lads,

Im looking for clarification on a matter that happened recently to one of our players.

During a league game the player was booked for a missed timed tackle.Later on in the same game the same player had a verbal argument with the referee about a decision that he taught the ref had made wrong.There was some swear words used as there is in every game but he did not call the ref any unsavoury names.The ref gave the same player a strong and lengthy talking to and that was it no second yellow card.The game eneded and both teams and ref went there seperate ways.

Two weeks later the club recieved a phone call from Tommy Lewis stating the player in question had recieved a 2 game ban for abusive language towards the referree.

Can a player be suspended after a match even though the ref hadnt sent the same player off.Instead he decides to put it in his match report.If this is the case whats to stop refs doing this to players they may have a dislike towards.Its surely just a case of the refs word against the players word and we all know who will get the benefit of the doubt.

Hope someone can put some clarity on this.

OK lads, I saw this and said I'd reply before all the conspiracey theories about referees and the Leagues being against Clubs start flooding in!!

So the player was cautioned for a "late tacke" as you put it, no problems there......it's the rest of your message I have problems with for several reasons.
Firstly: "Later on in the same game the same player had a verbal argument with the referee about a decision that he taught the ref had made wrong." IMO from the way you describe it, the player should have been cautioned for dissent and dismissed from play. The fact that the referee didn't caution him but gave him a talking to sounds like the ref saved the player a red card.

Secondly: "Two weeks later the club recieved a phone call from Tommy Lewis stating the player in question had recieved a 2 game ban for abusive language towards the referree." again IMO if the referee hasn't acted on something during the game i.e. not sending the player off then 1. he has nothing to report. 2. The league have nothing to act on.

"If this is the case whats to stop refs doing this to players they may have a dislike towards.Its surely just a case of the refs word against the players word and we all know who will get the benefit of the doubt."

Whenever a referee reports a player or Club, then it's always word against word, and your technically correct, the referees word is normally taken, this is because he is employed to control the match and report any misbehaviour that takes place. It's his job and he's paid to be there and do it.

Hope this helps!

**likealion** · 13/10/2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by West Hammer

Wednesday,s deadline is an F.A.I set date. All junior leagues playing winter leagues are bound by this rule. The only players that can sign after Wednesday are those that are unregistered by any other club. The next Transfer window starts Dec 1st and ends 31st Jan.

You certain it starts the 1st December?

**West Hammer** · 13/10/2009, 4:09 PM

Certain. There are 2 Transfer windows for Junior Clubs playing winter leagues,
1st June - 30th Sept and 1st Dec - 31st Jan. As stated a player may not register for a club after 31st March.

**balls** · 13/10/2009, 4:45 PM

how bout players that have not signed for anyone yet. Can they still sign for there first club of season inside window or have they to wait for it to re open

**West Hammer** · 13/10/2009, 6:48 PM

You can sign for your first club at anytime up till 31st March 2010, even outside transfer windows.

**balls** · 13/10/2009, 8:47 PM

nice one cheers for that west hammer

**ronburgundy** · 14/10/2009, 7:47 PM

i hear former villa manager noel byrne has approached foggy, derek loughnane, aaron ryan and mike ryan from his old club and wants them to join town, obviously cant be done until january but i dont know if either club will want that

**West Hammer** · 14/10/2009, 8:34 PM

Not great for the players either as they would be cup tied for F.A.I and Munster Cups if all ready played in them for Peake. By January there may be only a handfull of league games to left to play.

**Tipp Top** · 14/10/2009, 9:20 PM

Originally Posted by ronburgundy

i hear former villa manager noel byrne has approached foggy, derek loughnane, aaron ryan and mike ryan from his old club and wants them to join town, obviously cant be done until january but i dont know if either club will want that

sounds like your trying to stir it up as usual ron,i can confirm there is absolutely no truth in that post,i know noel personally,some of the players mentioned he had at kilkenny but michael ryan is a player he particularly doesnt rate and didnt invite to kilkenny so he definitely would not have approached him,i dont think clonmel would welcome a big influx of villa players and i know from speaking to noel he has no intention of going down that route

**Insidetherock** · 14/10/2009, 10:17 PM

And any influx like that from one club to another, especially when they are both rivals for honours woiuld cause the world of hassle.

Apart from that, best of luck to the Cashel B team Sunday in the Shield final against Dundrum. It's a local derby and a chance for Cashel to show off their new field, so it should be a good occasion

Here's hoping the first's can avenge the early season defeat by St Michael's as well Sunday morning. A somewhat tougher proposition

**tipp man** · 15/10/2009, 7:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tipp Top

sounds like your trying to stir it up as usual ron,i can confirm there is absolutely no truth in that post,i know noel personally,some of the players mentioned he had at kilkenny but michael ryan is a player he particularly doesnt rate and didnt invite to kilkenny so he definitely would not have approached him,i dont think clonmel would welcome a big influx of villa players and i know from speaking to noel he has no intention of going down that route

What exactly (if any) is Noel Byrne's role, official or otherwise, with Clonmel Town?

**MunsterMunch** · 15/10/2009, 7:31 AM

Originally Posted by Tipp Top

sounds like your trying to stir it up as usual ron,i can confirm there is absolutely no truth in that post,i know noel personally,some of the players mentioned he had at kilkenny but michael ryan is a player he particularly doesnt rate and didnt invite to kilkenny so he definitely would not have approached him,i dont think clonmel would welcome a big influx of villa players and i know from speaking to noel he has no intention of going down that route

I doubt Michael Ryan would have any interest in going to a club where Noel is involved either. Any loyal Villa player wouldnt for that matter. Especially after what Noel did to the club. To say that he's not looked on favourably by current people assocaited with Villa for the last 15+ years would be putting it mildly.

**Mega Tots** · 15/10/2009, 8:14 AM

Originally Posted by MunsterMunch

I doubt Michael Ryan would have any interest in going to a club where Noel is involved either. Any loyal Villa player wouldnt for that matter. Especially after what Noel did to the club. To say that he's not looked on favourably by current people assocaited with Villa for the last 15+ years would be putting it mildly.

and equally noel would burn them,2 sides to every story,the one thing about noel is he is a winner and his record at villa is frankly untouchable,they won everything from schoolboys to youths to junior,they havent won a single trophy since he left,top players have ambition....the loyalty card is a joke,the one thing saint michaels have and clonmel have is profesionalism,some of the people involved with peake are straight out of a comedy sketch,its beyond believe some of the things that take place,quick example...villa are challenging for the league,they trained the other night and a player had to take the session as there was nobody from the management team present,this is just minor compared to the usual goings on

**the dazzler** · 15/10/2009, 8:28 AM

Originally Posted by MunsterMunch

I doubt Michael Ryan would have any interest in going to a club where Noel is involved either. Any loyal Villa player wouldnt for that matter. Especially after what Noel did to the club. To say that he's not looked on favourably by current people assocaited with Villa for the last 15+ years would be putting it mildly.

just proves barry ryan is not a loyal villa player

**Tipp Top** · 15/10/2009, 8:41 AM

Originally Posted by the dazzler

just proves barry ryan is not a loyal villa player

every time we try to discuss anything on this site someone from limerick posts something stupid about barry ryan,we dont care,were bored of it,now run along

**Freddy** · 17/10/2009, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by DrRobert

What has happened in cashel,is it true glenn doherty has stepped down as manager.can anyone from cashel explain what has happened.

Was talking to a few lads i know from cashel, it's true the manager is gone alright. They didn't go into too much detail about it but i got the impression they weren't too dissapointed with his departure! I wouldn't really like to comment on it as our own club has had it's difficulties with managment also..what club doesn't?? The only thing i will sat though is that i feel sorry for the players who would have obviously put in a lot of effort during pre-season and over the years to get back to the Premier. It's not very fair on them when their manager, who is supposed to lead by example, walks out on them half-way through the season. Hopefully they can get a replacement with a bit more loyalty and commitment to the players.

**bishbash** · 17/10/2009, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Freddy

Was talking to a few lads i know from cashel, it's true the manager is gone alright. They didn't go into too much detail about it but i got the impression they weren't too dissapointed with his departure! I wouldn't really like to comment on it as our own club has had it's difficulties with managment also..what club doesn't?? The only thing i will sat though is that i feel sorry for the players who would have obviously put in a lot of effort during pre-season and over the years to get back to the Premier. It's not very fair on them when their manager, who is supposed to lead by example, walks out on them half-way through the season. Hopefully they can get a replacement with a bit more loyalty and commitment to the players.

Thought you said you would'nt like to comment on it.....

**zizu's head** · 18/10/2009, 5:13 PM

Was at the Town v Bridge game today. Fairly poor stuff from both sides really. Town won 4nil in the end and it could have been a lot more! They were 1 up inside 30 seconds; a terrible mix up between defender and keeper and Aaron Moroney nipped in the knock the ball home. Bridge steaded the ship a bit after that and created a few chances but didn't really look like scoring. In the end, Town just pulled away and got three more. Stephen Ryan scored a beauty from outside the box!
Cahir were beaten by Two-Mile-Borris and Michael's beat Cashel 5nil.