Cork AUL 2009/10

**pacman** · 26/09/2009, 9:23 AM

I wonder what % of clubs in the AUL actually enter the FAI juinior cup? I'm guessing almost half do not bother.

**shetland** · 26/09/2009, 9:40 AM

Originally Posted by pacman

I wonder what % of clubs in the AUL actually enter the FAI juinior cup? I'm guessing almost half do not bother.

think your right paceman .,lets be frank here no cork team will win the fai cup in the distant future the way leagues are structured. limerick., waterford and a lot of others have no senior league and so have very strong juniors,

**pass&move** · 26/09/2009, 3:47 PM

Grattan Utd 3 - 0 Mayfield Utd

**The Guvnor** · 26/09/2009, 4:48 PM

Midleton(msl) 1 Leeds 2 Aet

**littleman** · 26/09/2009, 7:19 PM

well done guv,good away win.

**The Guvnor** · 26/09/2009, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

well done guv,good away win.

Thanks Littleman,

Positive result after last weeks performance against ballyvolane. too be honest we should have finished them off in normal time, but i will take the win.

The lads were outstanding and really played good football.

A good win for the AUL

**blue-and-red** · 27/09/2009, 3:28 PM

Good stuff Guv!! nice one

We(Ballyvolane A) were beaten 3-1 down in Kanturk.
I wasnt there myself but the better team on the day won i think as we just didnt turn up after the interval.

1 up at HT but Kanturk were strong 2nd half.

Well,onward and upward.Cup games next week.
I think we have Ard na laoi

Good result for Glenvale,well done 9.99!!

I dont mean to brag but i did call it!!!

**DCross06** · 27/09/2009, 4:13 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

Firstly,the fixture next week,Killumney V the Gratts in the Mjc,that wont go ahead as we have a free weekend booked.

The last Cork side to win the Fai were Rockville in the late 30s or early 40s, now sadly gone. Castleview lost in the final in 61/62 and Everton lost in 65/66.We have had a few sides reach the last 16 over the last 20 years but only 2 or 3 reached the quaters.

Theres roughly 680 sides enter an its the biggest single knockout competion of its kind in Europe.I belive every Cork side would love to win it.That I do belive 100%,but honestly speaking I dont belive any Cork side expects to win it.And that my friends is and always will be our biggest downfall.

We reached the quater final 3 seasons ago and were 6 mins away from the semis(it took 9 wins to reach the semis), but the confidence gained from being in the previous years latter stages would have got us through that last 6 mins but we didnt have it an went out in extra time.We had Castlebar dead an buried 2 seasons ago an couldnt finish them off an went out on penos in the last 16,again or confidence wasnt strong enough.And last season with all due respect Red and the Ballyvolane lads ye knocked us out in the 1st rd.

The confidence our junior sides lack all stems form the fact that we as clubs arnt used to reaching the latter stages of the Fai junior.An when we do ,when faced by some of the top junior clubs(who are every bit as good if not better than our intermediate clubs) we just seem to be beaten before we reach the end line.

Yet all is not lost,the Oscar Traynor side lived the dream against a Dublin side jam packed with international junior players,littered with Fai cup winners just for good measure,but those 16 players proved that if you can just have enough self belife in the lad in front of ya,behind ya or on either side of ya,you can achive anythin,oh ya an a tiny bit of luck too.

Every competition starts somewhere,for us its tomorrow at 3 in O'Neill Park.We arnt looking to win the Fai junior cup tomorrow,just one game.Thats all we are focused on,just one game.

We got to the last 64 last season and were very unlucky to lose 3-2 to Westport United who had won it 2 years previous, and we wouldnt be one of the strongest teams in Cork. It all comes down to the luck of the draw and the break of the ball on the day, I'd say the likes of Kinsale, Leeside and Gratts would be a match for most of the top teams if they got home draws, a lot of the teams in the cup play in counties where there are no Senior Leagues so this is obviously to there advantage, it wouldnt surprise me if a Cork team made at least the semi's this year.

**DCross06** · 27/09/2009, 4:21 PM

We beat Rylane 2-1 yesterday away in the league, they're pitch is worse than ours (I know its hard to believe), we beat them 2-1 at home three weeks ago in the league aswell, I dunno what the fixtures secratary was thinking. I know its good to get six points but its hard to gauge where we are after beating the same team twice and drawing our other game.

**Doug89** · 27/09/2009, 5:36 PM

FAI Jnr Cup
Blackstone 0 - Grangevale 1

**timmypav** · 27/09/2009, 7:25 PM

Originally Posted by Doug89

FAI Jnr Cup
Blackstone 0 - Grangevale 1

Was at the game this morning and i was impressed with ye doug89. I thought ye coped with everything that Blackstone threw at ye. Ref handled the game well and i admired the way that ye did not get involved when there was little incidents. (I will have to bring my gang out and they might learn from that). Just one question? Did ye make the double substitution because the 2 lads were after being booked. I thought they were playing well. The left winger, Eric i think was his name looks one for the future.

**timmypav** · 27/09/2009, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by DCross06

We beat Rylane 2-1 yesterday away in the league, they're pitch is worse than ours (I know its hard to believe), we beat them 2-1 at home three weeks ago in the league aswell, I dunno what the fixtures secratary was thinking. I know its good to get six points but its hard to gauge where we are after beating the same team twice and drawing our other game.

I know the feeling. We lost 2-1 to Park yesterday and beat them 3-2 in our first game. No complaints. They were hungrier on the day and took their chances when they came along. It would have been nice to play on the main pitch as it was looking immaculate. Well done Parkboy and Dcross06 as well on the double over Rylane.

**olachico** · 27/09/2009, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by timmypav

Was at the game this morning and i was impressed with ye doug89. I thought ye coped with everything that Blackstone threw at ye. Ref handled the game well and i admired the way that ye did not get involved when there was little incidents. (I will have to bring my gang out and they might learn from that). Just one question? Did ye make the double substitution because the 2 lads were after being booked. I thought they were playing well. The left winger, Eric i think was his name looks one for the future.

Have to disagree with you timmypav - thought we should have had a penalty in the first half - just because a fella doesnt fall on the ground after being pushed doesnt mean it isnt a penalty

I was also impressed with Grangevale - they have assembled quite an impressive squad and should do well in the first division this year - I'd expect them to be there or there abouts in May fighting for the league

I did feel that if we were a little unlucky today and that if we had equalised we would have won in extra time

Need to start taking our chances or we could regret it
I'll be interested to read the report on Wednesday

**Doug89** · 27/09/2009, 8:40 PM

Originally Posted by timmypav

Was at the game this morning and i was impressed with ye doug89. I thought ye coped with everything that Blackstone threw at ye. Ref handled the game well and i admired the way that ye did not get involved when there was little incidents. (I will have to bring my gang out and they might learn from that). Just one question? Did ye make the double substitution because the 2 lads were after being booked. I thought they were playing well. The left winger, Eric i think was his name looks one for the future.

Thanks Timmy, we are delighted especially with the fact that we made 6 changes to the starting 11 from last week so everyone is getting a chance and competition for places is healthy as a result. We made the double sub cause both were on yellows, one had picked up a knock aswell so decided to do it sooner than later. The one downpoint was that one of our substhat came on had to go to hospital and has chipped a bone in his ankle and will be out for 3/4 weeks. Young Eric Kennedy got the MOTM award, he has great potential, playing well at the moment....

**Horse24** · 27/09/2009, 9:10 PM

In my opinion, if our three games to date were boxing matches, we would have won them on points. However, as Littleman pointed out last year, that counts for nothing.

We have met Grangevale many times over the last decade, and I like them as a club. Nice people. Most of the guys now wouldnt have seen most of the games, but they retain the good spirit their club has.

There first 3 games showed they dont concede many, and today proved that too. We didnt have a lot of clear cut chances, but, had enough to win on another day. We were not overly busy at the other end in my opinion. Neither keeper really had to pull a top drawer save.

A bit of effing and blinding today between both sides, but, handshakes and good wishes at the end. Best of luck to Grangevale, and, a good performance will be needed by anyone to beat them.

Overall ref was ok. Two big decisions didnt go our way, but they will another day. Thats cup football.

**timmypav** · 27/09/2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by olachico

Have to disagree with you timmypav - thought we should have had a penalty in the first half - just because a fella doesnt fall on the ground after being pushed doesnt mean it isnt a penalty

I was also impressed with Grangevale - they have assembled quite an impressive squad and should do well in the first division this year - I'd expect them to be there or there abouts in May fighting for the league

I did feel that if we were a little unlucky today and that if we had equalised we would have won in extra time

Need to start taking our chances or we could regret it
I'll be interested to read the report on Wednesday

To be honest Olachico i was near the other goal for the penalty shout, but looking at the immediate reaction from your players i can see what you mean. Maybe the fact that it was Skilly and the ref thought he was big enough to ride that tackle. There was no shortage of commitment by both sides today in an enjoyable game for the neutral.

**olachico** · 28/09/2009, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by timmypav

To be honest Olachico i was near the other goal for the penalty shout, but looking at the immediate reaction from your players i can see what you mean. Maybe the fact that it was Skilly and the ref thought he was big enough to ride that tackle. There was no shortage of commitment by both sides today in an enjoyable game for the neutral.

So if it had been a smaller fella it would have been a penalty? A fouls a foul no matter what size the guy is!!

**mkbucks** · 28/09/2009, 7:42 AM

Originally Posted by DCross06

We beat Rylane 2-1 yesterday away in the league, they're pitch is worse than ours (I know its hard to believe), we beat them 2-1 at home three weeks ago in the league aswell, I dunno what the fixtures secratary was thinking. I know its good to get six points but its hard to gauge where we are after beating the same team twice and drawing our other game.

We played Ard na Laoi last week and beat them 6-3 at home. Yesterday we had to travel to theirs, we lost 1-0. They were hungry after we walloped them last week and defended well yesterday especially in the last 20mins.

I agree with you DCross. happened to us aswell last year. Played Dunbar first two games of the season. We only got 1 point from them two games. Dunbar pulled out only a couple of weeks later leaving us chasing everyone as they all got 6 points.

If we had not played them before they pulled out we could have easily been promoted but i don't think the secretary looks at it from a clubs point of view. He is just tryin to fulfill all fixtures ASAP.

**Parkboy** · 28/09/2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by timmypav

I know the feeling. We lost 2-1 to Park yesterday and beat them 3-2 in our first game. No complaints. They were hungrier on the day and took their chances when they came along. It would have been nice to play on the main pitch as it was looking immaculate. Well done Parkboy and Dcross06 as well on the double over Rylane.

Coachford 1 - 5 Park Utd
Park Utd B 2 - 1 Glen Celtic
Great results for both teams. First team 5 - 0 up at half time,took the foot off in the second half.Great performance from what i heard.If we can keep picking up points on our travels we might be there or there abouts come May.
Second team had a fantastic win on Saturday.Like Timmypav said we were the hungrier side and deserved the 3 points.
It was a pity we werent playing on main field Timmy but other pitch isnt that bad.

**thirdeye** · 28/09/2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

Firstly,the fixture next week,Killumney V the Gratts in the Mjc,that wont go ahead as we have a free weekend booked.

The last Cork side to win the Fai were Rockville in the late 30s or early 40s, now sadly gone. Castleview lost in the final in 61/62 and Everton lost in 65/66.We have had a few sides reach the last 16 over the last 20 years but only 2 or 3 reached the quaters.

Theres roughly 680 sides enter an its the biggest single knockout competion of its kind in Europe.I belive every Cork side would love to win it.That I do belive 100%,but honestly speaking I dont belive any Cork side expects to win it.And that my friends is and always will be our biggest downfall.

We reached the quater final 3 seasons ago and were 6 mins away from the semis(it took 9 wins to reach the semis), but the confidence gained from being in the previous years latter stages would have got us through that last 6 mins but we didnt have it an went out in extra time.We had Castlebar dead an buried 2 seasons ago an couldnt finish them off an went out on penos in the last 16,again or confidence wasnt strong enough.And last season with all due respect Red and the Ballyvolane lads ye knocked us out in the 1st rd.

The confidence our junior sides lack all stems form the fact that we as clubs arnt used to reaching the latter stages of the Fai junior.An when we do ,when faced by some of the top junior clubs(who are every bit as good if not better than our intermediate clubs) we just seem to be beaten before we reach the end line.

Yet all is not lost,the Oscar Traynor side lived the dream against a Dublin side jam packed with international junior players,littered with Fai cup winners just for good measure,but those 16 players proved that if you can just have enough self belife in the lad in front of ya,behind ya or on either side of ya,you can achive anythin,oh ya an a tiny bit of luck too.

Every competition starts somewhere,for us its tomorrow at 3 in O'Neill Park.We arnt looking to win the Fai junior cup tomorrow,just one game.Thats all we are focused on,just one game.

Well Littleman, I certainly wouldn't agree with your lack of confidence statement on Grattans FAI runs. I knew most/all of that Grattan team and one thing they never lacked was confidence. Anyone who spoke to them before or after games regardless of the opposition could see that. I think you are doing them and your club a great disservice, on the day these tight games are decided by the width of a post or a referees decision or indeed a players decision. You went on to talk about the Oscar Traynor team having/needing a little luck, well surely that's exactly what was missing then??
I was offf viewing houses in the Kanturk area over the weekend and saw the game V ballyvolane. I agreed to look at houses provided we (I) could watch the match, seemed like a fair tradeoff to me. Kanturk looked a good side and might surprise a few teams this year.