Cork AUL 2009/10

**olachico** · 17/08/2009, 11:33 AM

Knockavilla won the league outright! But i can see your point maybe it should be decided on the number of goals divided by the number of games to give a ratio or something!

Also as much as the AUL might have wanted to they cant change the rules midseason - its unusual for 2 teams to pull out but the rule was there at the start - maybe an EGM amongst the premier league clubs would have been a good idea but maybe the AULs hands are tied

But have to totally disagree with you on one point!!! I dont think the players you have listed leave their respective clubs to get away from the AUL

**Shilts** · 17/08/2009, 1:05 PM

Also...
From what I have heard the Cork AUL have caused the local refs to go on strike (its not a money issue)...so no refs for MSL, AUL or Business League games until this is sorted out.
Bravo again AUL

But am I surprised, not a bit...some of these guys couldn't run a tap!

**timmypav** · 17/08/2009, 3:56 PM

Originally Posted by olachico

Welcome on board timmypav - the more the merrier!! Ye should do alright this year - some good players in Danny Kiely, Paul Monaher etc and of course not forgetting the ex-Hibs brigade! Shane Hurley is another fine player - he played for me while at Hibs!

Yeah, hopefully we should be ok. i dont see anyone running away with it. It should be close enough.

**DCross06** · 17/08/2009, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

well we were due to go to dungarvan but the weather called it off the nite before,so we'v had 2 games at home an away game yesterday out in Douglas,so not far at all.We were due to play mid week this week in our last warm up game but becaues of the fixtures we have we have decided to just train instead tue an thur instead.Makes more sense.

Before I forget a big welcome to everbody whos new to the site,great to see so many new clubs come onboard.

Dcross,saw some of yer game today,that dive from the Rockmount lad was halarious,laughed me head off,twas like somethin from little britan,an to make it worse jj saved it,terrific save,then came up with an even better 2nd save an finally see the loose ball belted into the net,heartbreakin stuff

Ya, its bad enough when a player tries it, worse again when the referee actually falls for it, and then for them to score from it the way they did. If its a sign of things to come from the referees I wouldnt be too optimistic for the season, last Thursday we came from 2 down and were winning 3-2 with bout ten minutes left, they got a goal that was ridiculously off-side and the ref let it stand, when I said it to him he said that he knows it was off-side but he wanted to make a game of it, I know it was only a friendly but hes still getting his mtch fee and youd expect him to do his job, and at 3-2 it was far from being a formality. Just had to get that off my chest.

**littleman** · 17/08/2009, 4:39 PM

Gee's Shilts,who rattled your cage.

Your half right about the refs,its not about the money,theirs a dissagreement between the refs an the MFA,an the refs are'nt backing down.

Shilts we all got points from the Villa,Bally foldin issue.I dont like what happened either but Wilton still won the league fair an square,if Kinsale or anyone else were at a loss because of the way it was handled then they should of appealed it to the MFA ,but nobody did so why drag this thing out.An before someone says what if it happens again,unless someone has a crystal ball an lets the AUL know what club is in trouble,it will probably be handled the same way .

**bellavistaman** · 17/08/2009, 4:54 PM

any idea when the dispute with the refas is going to end, are the games going ahead the weekend or what

**bogwarrior** · 17/08/2009, 10:12 PM

Not to be nit picking littleman but I dont call that fair and square! No way boy!! I made a tongue in cheek comment about the best team not winning and you picked up on it and harped on about not being cranky! There's more than one person dragging this out!

It's not sour grapes at all. We knew our position from january on ward and knew what we had to do and didn't do it, end of. Doesn't make the situation right however and if any AUL member is reading this I hope they take our opinions on board and do the right thing next time. Or do they know how to use computers?!!

(that's a small dig again littleman!!)

**Innishvilla** · 18/08/2009, 7:30 AM

Surely after what happened last season, with 4-5 clubs folding mid-season in various leagues the AUL committee have discussed how it should be dealt with if it happens again. I would hope they would follow the FAI structure of expunging a teams results, as what was the case had Cork City gone belly up... I've no problem with what happened last year because it was the rule at the time that results stand and that's fine, but surely they must have looked at it again in the offseason???
Only thing is Littleman, you don't need a crystal ball, just change the rules, if a team then does drop out you deal with it accordingly.
Lets be honest about this lads, it has happened plenty of times in the past but it was always in lower divisions and normally only one club from a division. This time because it was premier there is a much bigger deal made of it...

**littleman** · 18/08/2009, 8:04 AM

Firstly Innish,great post.

Bog maybe we both picked up each others comments wrong,I no more meant any thing serious with my 'jeremey kyle' comment,i just forgot to put a smiley face at the end of it.

Look Bog you may think Im pro Aul but its far from the case.As a person I only concentrate on what I can change rather than getting frustrated at what I cant,an theres nothin I can do to change what the Aul do.

In England over the weekend,Palace an Bristol.We all know its wrong,we all know how to prevent it happening again but the people in charge refuse to change the rules,adding to our frustration.An if Palace lose out on promotion by a point,or indeed get relegated by a point,then so be it according to the FA,rules are rules,no matter how frustrating an even more frustrating when common sense denotes theirs a fair option available.

If I was a Kinsale player Id have lost the plot big time at the way the Aul handled it an especially with the work ye put in on the pitch but Im not an how they handled it played no part in the outcome of our season cause we never showed up at all last season.So again its easy for me to say let it go.

But,if Wilton had of played Villa an Bally in there first 4 games an won those 4 games would it have been fair on them then to have the points deducted because of the 2 clubs folding.Wilton did nothing wrong,they were awarded points for 4 games because 2 sides droped out according to the rules,that left the, 14 games we shouldnt forget.

Wilton won the league,playing by the leagues rules,wether we rate those rules or not .

Ye had the oppertuinity to win the league anyway if ye had got the win against Willton out in the Farm,but that to is history now and we all should accept Wilton are worthy champs.

**bogwarrior** · 18/08/2009, 10:51 AM

Yup, pretty much sums up the way I look upon it too. Worthy champs, both teams had their chances.

But I do hope the AUL have some sort of fair plan in place on how to deal with drop outs this year which will inevitable happen I think. That's all.

**junglegym** · 18/08/2009, 3:56 PM

Originally Posted by Shilts

Also...
From what I have heard the Cork AUL have caused the local refs to go on strike (its not a money issue)...so no refs for MSL, AUL or Business League games until this is sorted out.

I also heard about this . Anymore update on the referee situation ? Will the start of the season be put back a week or two.

**shetland** · 18/08/2009, 4:46 PM

referee desision will be known tonight after a meeting between .referees and .m.f.a, .that will be chaired by the F.A.I.I. HAVE THIS ON VERY good authority.was speaking to the referee involved , and he is being prevented from refereeing in the .A .U.L BY THEIR CHAIRMAN.THEIR DIFFERENCES stem from when the chairman was fixture secretary a few years back.if the cork .a.u.l dont back down there will be no matches this weekend.

**timmypav** · 18/08/2009, 5:44 PM

Lets hope its sorted. Our lads are itching to get started.

**corkref** · 18/08/2009, 8:45 PM

update re refs; following a meeting between MFA and refs where the MFA refused to enter any discussion, the referees have officially withdrawn their services from this Thurs until further notice! Not a good start for any of us!

**olachico** · 19/08/2009, 2:03 AM

What a balls about the refs strike - why cant we all just get along - Make love not war etc LOL

(Note this was tongue in cheek - i do not wish to make love to any of the referees, AUL committee or the MFA LOL)

**Billynomates** · 19/08/2009, 7:28 AM

Does anyone know which Ref is the one in qusetion? I heard its to do with Aidan O Regan (Raggy)

**Innishvilla** · 19/08/2009, 8:24 AM

on Billy's site the AUL/MSL Youths and U17 league cups are cancelled due to the referee's strike.
Also there is a fairly stern warning against clubs (youth and U17 for now) arranging friendlies...

See below for full text... Looks very ominous that they are looking for people to sign up as referees...

Cork Youth Leagues Fixtures Cancelled:
Due to ISRS Cork branch going on strike by refusing to staff matches the Management Committee of the Cork Youth Leagues have decided to cancel the U17 and Youth League Cup competitions this season, so all published fixtures are cancelled.
No Friendly Games:
The committee are issuing a directive to every team in the league that friendly games must not take place during this strike. Sanctions will be imposed on any team who will be in breach of this directive.
Non Society Referees:
The management committee wish to state that if sufficient referees registered with the FAI who are not members of the Cork Branch of the I.S.R.S. are available that league matches will be arranged, as we are anxious to finish our season before the end of May because of players doing exams.
Beginner�s Course;
We wish to remind anybody interested in taking up a career as a referee that a beginner�s course will take place on Saturday next, if interested contact Brian O�Regan 086-8113959

**Shilts** · 19/08/2009, 9:36 AM

Originally Posted by corkref

update re refs; following a meeting between MFA and refs where the MFA refused to enter any discussion, the referees have officially withdrawn their services from this Thurs until further notice! Not a good start for any of us!

First of all I didnt hear this from a ref or a commitee member so take this with a grain of salt...as with all my posts.
The Refs society usually decide which refs are allocated to each league - AUL, MSL etc. However on this occassion the AUL decided they dont want a particular ref (I wont name him as its unimportant, and I might be wrong (again...ooops!)). The refs have said that this is unacceptable - that its up to them to provide qualified refs to each league. This is where the standoff is at the moment.
I have to say from the little I know about this issue, I'm behind the refs. But maybe I dont know the full storey!!!

**littleman** · 19/08/2009, 10:16 AM

Im not meaning to sound like im makin a joke of this but the Aul has,nt done much to raise the standard off refs over the years has it,so where are they comin from on this.

The man in question was a refereeing accessor,his opinion deemed important enough to say wether a ref was up to the grade or not,yet the Aul say hes not good enough to ref in the Aul,who do they think their kiddin.

Not one club has put in an objection,not one so for me they have no place saying no to this bloke.

The idea was for the Aul to have its clubs best interests at heart,not its individual commitee member/members interests.

**bellavistaman** · 19/08/2009, 10:20 AM

if thats true you have to back the refs here, if it is the name mentioned above the aul should only be glad to have a ref of his calibure in all fairness he a loi official, and they dont want him in the aul!! madness..