Cork AUL 2009/10

**littleman** · 10/10/2009, 7:08 AM

Just finished nites an Iv had some time to reflect on everthing.I intentionally didnt look in to see whats been said cause I was genuinely was dissapointed at both the result an team selection.I apoligise for the rant because a manager picks a side I presume to win a game an if it dont then I hope the managers reasons for pickin what ever side he picked,he stands by.On occasion we all we can an have all had a rant when we shouldnt of,an Im no angel.My passion for both the game an our league,with all its faults gets the better of me,once in a while all be it.

**BigFella 09** · 10/10/2009, 7:40 AM

Oh how the tables have turned,wasn't so long ago fellas were saying that kinsale deserved to have that many players on the aul panel and how they have been 1 of the best teams in the league over the last few years,now the back stabbing begins saying that they are an under acheiving team,their coach is hot headed etc,to me it looks like because of player selection and lads not being picked from a certain club when maybe they should have been heads should roll!!!
Im just wondering if the same lads had started regardless of the result would all this agro still be there!!!?.

**Southsider** · 10/10/2009, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by Radiostar

Bog can you remember who played left back for Kinsale in the Mossie Linnane final, he was a blonde fella? Don't know his name, was he in the cork aul team selected?

Sounds like Micky Bradfield. He was on last nights panel and probably started aswell.

**pacman** · 10/10/2009, 9:40 AM

wow, havent logged on in a few days and have seen the banter is getting nice and heated.

I wont comment on the team selection from last night, as we all know he didnt have much time to select his team from in saying that if i didnt have much time either i would have just selected more or less the same panel from last year and replaced the guys who have left.

I think what will be really interesting is what he does for his next squad. Does he stay loyal to his current group or does he look to start all over. His next squad and team for me will give me a real indication of what type of manager he is

I think he needs to look at some of the MSL players that have joined the AUL league this year whom a lot of fellas may not be familiar yet. As Bluey mentioned there are 5 or 6 players down in Leeside which have come from Mayfield, Midleton and Youghal, Grattan have some returning from Mary's and i'm sure some other clubs have gotten a few.

I will agree with Bluey that Barry(pookie) Goggin should be an absolute certainty for left back on the team.
The following players should also at least make the squad
Grattan - Keith Shaw
Wilton - Anthony Daly i think his name is (centre field)
Leeside - Barry Goggin, Ricky Gettings, Paul Condon
Glenthorn - Paul O Brien if he's back fit
Coachford - Dan Lucey

**olachico** · 10/10/2009, 9:45 AM

I hope you werent refering to me bigfella because if you read my posts I just wanted the best players available selected for the panel - really at the end of the day I dont care who they play for - i just dont think this was done however!

**BigFella 09** · 10/10/2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by olachico

I hope you werent refering to me bigfella because if you read my posts I just wanted the best players available selected for the panel - really at the end of the day I dont care who they play for - i just dont think this was done however!

no wasn't refering to you,just amazes me how opions change so fast in regards to the team,lads that weren't picked for the starting 11 that maybe should be etc,i don't think the squad is going to change that much really over 1 game,i don't think by bringing in x amount of players is going to change performances really,the squad an management need time to gel so i wouldn't be writhing them off yet!!,only time will tell!!!

**olachico** · 10/10/2009, 10:28 AM

Right I'm going to say one more thing and then I'm done talking about the Oscar Traynor Cup- It was hard enough to win the bloody thing with a manager who was there a few years and even if he had stayed on it would have been even harder to retain - no matter what we care to think the MSL seniors are the best teams in Cork and we are always going to lose players to them so we all should try and get behind the current squad and hopefully they can turn it around

**BigFella 09** · 10/10/2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by olachico

Right I'm going to say one more thing and then I'm done talking about the Oscar Traynor Cup- It was hard enough to win the bloody thing with a manager who was there a few years and even if he had stayed on it would have been even harder to retain - no matter what we care to think the MSL seniors are the best teams in Cork and we are always going to lose players to them so we all should try and get behind the current squad and hopefully they can turn it around

exactly finally someone talking a bit of sence,as they say winning any competition is hard enough,retaining it is even harder so instead of everyone picking bad points about the squad,management etc why not look for ways to try an improve the set up of how the team should be picked,trials etc for the future,there's always going to be people let down but thats life,its only a game at the end of the day!!

**olachico** · 10/10/2009, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by BigFella 09

exactly finally someone talking a bit of sence,as they say winning any competition is hard enough,retaining it is even harder so instead of everyone picking bad points about the squad,management etc why not look for ways to try an improve the set up of how the team should be picked,trials etc for the future,there's always going to be people let down but thats life,its only a game at the end of the day!!

I've been talking sense all along

**shetland** · 10/10/2009, 4:37 PM

as far as i rcall if the kerry league beat limerick then its bye bye .a u .l.what were they thinking off,splitting up the grattan centre halves and putting the castleview player in there,last years skipper as well.i have no sympathy for them. we have lost enough wkends already the longer this team stays in oscar traynor we will loose more.

**Doug89** · 11/10/2009, 2:38 PM

AUL 1: Grangevale 3 - UCC 1

**olachico** · 11/10/2009, 3:05 PM

Ballincollig 1 - 0 Blackstone

How we didnt win this one by at least 3 goals i will never know - Realistically should have had it wrapped up by halftime and got sucker punched towards the end - Cant believe we lost they were AWFUL but they got the points

**Radiostar** · 11/10/2009, 3:29 PM

Originally Posted by olachico

I dont see why the AUL cant take a more pro active role in this .
Granted the appointment was late but surely SURELY SURELY some trial games could be set up whereby if a club has a player they think might be good enough for the AUL panel they can send them forward and see what happens .

So at least when the manager is appointed he could be told - X,Y,Z from Kinsale A,B,C from Grattan and you might want to look at D from Ballyvolane . T from Kanturk and F from Springfield . Not saying tell him who to pick but help him out

Well said Olachico! Thats exactly how it should be done.

**beezerblackpool** · 11/10/2009, 4:51 PM

PROMOTION \ RELEGATION
The following are the Promotion\Relegation arrangements for the current season.

Premier: 2 relegated.
Premier A: 2 promoted and 2 relegated.
First Division: 1 promoted and 2 relegated from each section.
Second Division: 1 promoted and 1 relegated from each section.
Third Division: 2 promoted from each section.

Lads,is this definite?if so its a complete joke,teams will have nothing to play for halfway through the season.

**Southsider** · 11/10/2009, 5:01 PM

Casement 3-4 Blackpool. Casement one up and then two very good goals by Blackpool so 2-1 half time. Casement level it with some great work by Joe Ryan. 3-2 to Blackpool. 3-3 an a booboo by the keeper handed Blackpool the 3 points. Outstanding players Joe Ryan rightback Casement. Lawless(Think thats his name) Striker Blackpool.He bagged a hat-trick.

**olachico** · 11/10/2009, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by Southsider

Casement 3-4 Blackpool. Casement one up and then two very good goals by Blackpool so 2-1 half time. Casement level it with some great work by Joe Ryan. 3-2 to Blackpool. 3-3 all an a booboo by the keeper handed Blackpool the 3 points. Outstanding players Joe Ryan rightback Casement. Lawless(Think thats his name) Striker Blackpool.He bagged a hat-trick.

Brian Lawless is his name - he was on the Glenthorn B team that i was in charge of last year!! Fantastic technically - not the fastest though - he should score a lot in the second division (i think he has already)

**kingcorner** · 11/10/2009, 6:18 PM

Leeside B 4 - 1 Watergrasshill. B team go top of the league

**Southsider** · 11/10/2009, 6:52 PM

Originally Posted by olachico

Brian Lawless is his name - he was on the Glenthorn B team that i was in charge of last year!! Fantastic technically - not the fastest though - he should score a lot in the second division (i think he has already)

Ya he's like a bus turning no pace at all and is carrying a few extra pounds but he's effective and got two excellant goals. Keeper was very good aswell Willy Matthews was his name.

**pass&move** · 12/10/2009, 8:52 AM

These were before the weekend
Prem
Grattan Utd 5/4
Leeside 9/4
Glenthorn 5/2
Kinsale 5/2
Park 11/2
Wilton 10/1
Blarney St 14/1
Village 20/1
Knockavilla 20/1
Coachford 33/1

**pacman** · 12/10/2009, 8:59 AM

Originally Posted by pass&move

These were before the weekend
Prem
Grattan Utd 5/4
Leeside 9/4
Glenthorn 5/2
Kinsale 5/2
Park 11/2
Wilton 10/1
Blarney St 14/1
Village 20/1
Knockavilla 20/1
Coachford 33/1

Littleman must have put a lot of money down to say Grattan are that short a price.....

Wilton 10/1 not a bad bet there considering we are very early season