Going green on betfair

**DmanDmythDledge** · 03/07/2009, 11:56 AM

Still a betfair n00b so unsure of how to do this properly.

I've backed Dundalk@3.95. Option to lay them now@3.8. How do I do this properly?

**Dodge** · 03/07/2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Still a betfair n00b so unsure of how to do this properly.

I've backed Dundalk@3.95. Option to lay them now@3.8. How do I do this properly?

Well it depends if you want to have green on all outcomes.

In Your example above if you backed Dundalk with €100 @ 3.95, leaving you with profit of €295 if they won, and a loss of €100 if they didn't

If you laid them for €101 @ 3.8, you'd have a liability of €282.8 if the lost and a profit of €101 if they didn't

These combined would give you an "all green" total of €12.2 if Dundalk win, and €1 if its a draw or a Dundalk loss

You could lay off you stake (€100 @ 3.8) which would see have no profit/loss on loss/draw and €15 profit on Dundalk win

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Where trading really works is in play betting. If you back Dundalk and they go a goal up, their price plummets and you lay off for nice profit regardless of result (Tennis is unbelievable for trading)

**MariborKev** · 03/07/2009, 1:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Well it depends if you want to have green on all outcomes.

In Your example above if you backed Dundalk with �100 @ 3.95, leaving you with profit of �295 if they won, and a loss of �100 if they didn't

If you laid them for �101 @ 3.8, you'd have a profit of �282.8 if the lost and a profit of �101 if they didn't

These combined would give you an "all green" total of �12.2 if Dundalk win, and �1 if its a draw or a Dundalk loss

You could lay off you stake (�100 @ 3.8) which would see have no profit/loss on loss/draw and �15 profit on Dundalk win

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Where trading really works is in play betting. If you back Dundalk and they go a goal up, their price plummets and you lay off for nice profit regardless of result (Tennis is unbelievable for trading)

Aye,

My "betting" consists exclusively on in play trading. I mostly trade on the total goals market, as there is a buffer. Doesn't prevent something going wrong, ie I lost �400 or so do to three goals in three minutes in the Lillestrom v Start game during the week there.

One small correction "If you laid them for �101 @ 3.8, you'd have a profit of �282.8 if the lost and a profit of �101 if they didn't"

Actually, you'd have a liability of �282.8 if they lost.

**Dodge** · 03/07/2009, 1:19 PM

Yeah, sorry. Changed that now.

I mainly trade on the 2/5 goals market in football. Have been known to dabble in other markets mind

Tennis and the US sports are my other main interests

**brianw82** · 03/07/2009, 1:37 PM

Dodge, do you have an excel worksheet or something made up for doing this?

**Dodge** · 03/07/2009, 1:44 PM

Not really. I'm OK with maths though and of course you can have betfair give you the possible outcomes before the result. I can do up a spreadsheet if you want...

**MariborKev** · 03/07/2009, 1:54 PM

Brianw

I've a fairly comprehensive spreadsheet done up if you want it?

**brianw82** · 03/07/2009, 2:57 PM

@ Maribor, that'd be pretty cool. Send me a PM please.

I have something like this for accumulators, just stick in the different odds for all the bookies and the calculations are done for you.

**MariborKev** · 03/07/2009, 3:57 PM

In work ATM, then heading to Dundalk for our match.

I'll send it on tomorrow.

**eL Bettor** · 03/07/2009, 4:06 PM

Click on More Options which is just under the Refresh button/amount matched.
From this drop-down menu, tick the "Display 'what if' figure".
This will show your P/L on each outcome as you type the stake before actually submitting the bet.
Hope this helps!