Well considering that Staunton only managerial role to date has been the Ireland one, it's kind of difficult to discuss his suitability for the Motherwell job without talking about his previous experience.
It's certainly a poor reflection of Scottish football that Staunton's in the running mind you.
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who cares about this and why does it matter?Originally Posted by newrynyuk
I think Motherwell would be too big a job for Stan. That didnt stop the FAI from giving him their top job so who knows?
I know what you're saying, I was never too concerned about the media's feelings. I think it was just when the likes of Tony O'Donoghue was asking him stuff, that the whole country wanted to know, and we got no explanations it was quite frustrating.
I'm not a WUM and I stand by what I said. I never said that Staunton's reign was a roaring success, far from it. I said he showed enough flashes of promise during his time in a job that wasn't made easy for him to make me think he could succeed as a manager given enough experience. If you think that's an unreasonable position to hold, fair enough, but don't call my credibility into question just because you don't share my views.
Out of interest, what were these 'flashes of promise' you talk of?
I can think of a 1-1 draw at home to an average Czech side, only after he let the media pick his team for him, retired two players in a knee-jerk reaction to our most humiliating defeat of all time a few days earlier and then the players, so stunned by their mauling at the hands of Cyprus, pulled together and hung on for a draw despite not having much of a gameplan and got by on their collective spirit after having their pride so hurt.
Then there was a dull 0-0 home draw with a German side who had nothing to play for and didn't break out of a jog the entire game.
Now compare those to the list of stuff against Staunton and it's pretty obvious the guy should be looking for a new line of work. I saw in the papers that he's now working as a scout for Wolves....that's the only way I could imagine him getting a job anywhere, through the kindness of friends he has already made in the game as a player (Delaney, McCallister and now McCarthy).
When somebody comes out with such observations I think one is entitled to question their credibility
Ya I'd agree with all of that. If there was no manager over the Irish team they could get the occasional result that didn't borderline a digrace. These are not flashes of promise and it was obvious even at the time that they were more by accident than design.
Last edited by DeLorean; 26/06/2009 at 3:14 PM.
In fairness to Brendan, I'd have thought a 4-0 win in Denmark would count as a flash of promise. The 3-0 home win over Sweden too.
Still, the 3-0 win in Finland in '02 with the likes of Barrett, Healy and Goodwin playing was also very much a flash of promise. Little did any of us know how bad things would subsequently get.
The flashes of promise & the good performances you mentioned were basically the Irish players doing what they do best when their backs are against the wall & giving it their all. A lot of criticism & stick was thrown at the players / team in general and it was only natural that reacted in that manner. It had nothing to do with Stan's managerial ability but the natural gutsy attitude of our team. We still had no tactics or strategies in those games & Stan sure as hell can't claim responsibility for those matches.
Jim Gannon has verbally agreed to take the Motherwell job. What he did at Stockport with limited resources was very impressive. I wonder does he have ambitions to manage at International level?
Unlike the man in the thread title, he holds a full UEFA pro licence, has experience with management and actually has a personality. The SPL has proved to be a good breeding ground for young managers so hopefully it works out for him and sometime in the future, he'll be candidate for a vacant Irish national managerial position.
Hope it goes well for him.
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