Glen Johnson.

**old git** · 22/06/2009, 2:48 PM

[QUOTE=Rafa B;1181807]

Originally Posted by Den Perry

I think this put's it into perspective. Who was the better right back last season, Johnson or John O'Shea? IMO O'Shea.

In all fairness a big difference in the quality of player O'Shea was playing with last season to Johnson so imo Johnson had the better season.

3-4 trophies would suggest o'shea had the better season

**KK77** · 22/06/2009, 2:55 PM

[QUOTE=old git;1181823]

Originally Posted by Rafa B

3-4 trophies would suggest o'shea had the better season

Not talking about trophies

**jbyrne** · 22/06/2009, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

In all fairness a big difference in the quality of player O'Shea was playing with last season to Johnson so imo Johnson had the better season.

what nonsense. someday JOS will get the credit he deserves. his performances where on a far bigger stage (WCQ and champions lge) than johnsons

reder · 22/06/2009, 5:03 PM

Liverpool have agreed a transfer for in or around �17.5m, so I presume its a done deal, subject to a medical.

**KK77** · 23/06/2009, 8:21 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

what nonsense. someday JOS will get the credit he deserves. his performances where on a far bigger stage (WCQ and champions lge) than johnsons

Where did i say JOS didn't have a good season. Do you read posts????

**old git** · 23/06/2009, 1:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Where did i say JOS didn't have a good season. Do you read posts????

you did say it was down to the quality of players around him

in fairness he was involved all over backline most of season when utd had problems with injuries to neville / evans / ferdinand etc and he never let them down once totally underated player by a lot of people

**Tipp Top** · 23/06/2009, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Metrostars

�17m for Glen Johnson makes Ronaldo look a bargain

Prices of players this summer have gone mad Real Madrid have made a joke of the hole transfer market Wher is it going to stop

**gustavo** · 24/06/2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tipp Top

Prices of players this summer have gone mad Real Madrid have made a joke of the hole transfer market Wher is it going to stop

**OwlsFan** · 14/07/2009, 4:57 PM

I came across this quote from a Liverpool director who resigned in 2006 and Glen Johnson immediately sprung to mind:

White was anonymously quoted as saying: "We have paid too many inflated prices and inflated wages for players who are not doing the job.

"And when the manager decides they are not doing the job, we cannot get rid of them because nobody wants them for the sort of money we want back.

"It means we're losing money we can't afford to lose. We have too many players of poor quality and from the way the manager keeps on changing the side it looks as if he doesn't know what his best team is."

http://chinadaily.cn/sports/2006-11/...ent_721653.htm

What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a player who couldn't make it at Chelsea. I may be wrong but I really don't think he'll do the business at Liverpool either.

**gustavo** · 14/07/2009, 5:01 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I came across this quote from a Liverpool director who resigned in 2006 and Glen Johnson immediately sprung to mind:

White was anonymously quoted as saying: "We have paid too many inflated prices and inflated wages for players who are not doing the job.

"And when the manager decides they are not doing the job, we cannot get rid of them because nobody wants them for the sort of money we want back.

"It means we're losing money we can't afford to lose. We have too many players of poor quality and from the way the manager keeps on changing the side it looks as if he doesn't know what his best team is."

http://chinadaily.cn/sports/2006-11/...ent_721653.htm

What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a player who couldn't make it at Chelsea. I may be wrong but I really don't think he'll do the business at Liverpool either.

Mightn't have made it at Chelsea first time round , but they wanted him back . It was a large amount alright but offset by the fact that they were owed money for Crouch still and they just cancelled that

**DmanDmythDledge** · 14/07/2009, 9:21 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a player who couldn't make it at Chelsea. I may be wrong but I really don't think he'll do the business at Liverpool either.

Didn't make it at Chelsea? So if there is a player(s) better than you that means you don't make it? More drama queen stuff from you. A As for your second point he's been one of the best right backs in the Premier League over the past two seasons so he doesn't have anything to prove in that regard.

**DeLorean** · 15/07/2009, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Didn't make it at Chelsea? So if there is a player(s) better than you that means you don't make it?

I don't think was any great shame in Johnson not making it at Chelsea but he obviously didn't make it. If there are other players keeping you out of the team then of course you're not going to make it. I think it was Ferreira at the time Johnson was there and even Geremi used be thrown back there before he would be considered. He was pretty young at the time and obviously Mourinho just didn't rate him. I suppose Mourinho's the type that's more interested in his defenders being able to defend than to be great going forward, although I would have thought the same about Benitez.

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

As for your second point he's been one of the best right backs in the Premier League over the past two seasons so he doesn't have anything to prove in that regard.

Yeah I think he's been a fine player at Portsmouth and will be more than capable of producing at Liverpool. It wouldn't be too difficult to fill Arbeloa's boots anyway.

Originally Posted by gustavo

It was a large amount alright but offset by the fact that they were owed money for Crouch still and they just cancelled that

I don't understand why people keep bringing up the Crouch aspect though. Liverpool are surely still down the same amount of money no matter what way it's twisted. So instead of actually paying Portsmouth �17m for Johnson they are only paying about �5m, but now they're not getting the �12m they're owed for Crouch- same thing. Am I actually missing something though cos people keep mentioning the Crouch aspect of the whole thing as if Pool were somehow saved money? (p.s. figures are only approximate guesses as I didn't bother looking up Crouch transfer fee and don't know how much Pompey had paid already, etc)

reder · 15/07/2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

I don't understand why people keep bringing up the Crouch aspect though. Liverpool are surely still down the same amount of money no matter what way it's twisted. So instead of actually paying Portsmouth �17m for Johnson they are only paying about �5m, but now they're not getting the �12m they're owed for Crouch- same thing. Am I actually missing something though cos people keep mentioning the Crouch aspect of the whole thing as if Pool were somehow saved money?

No, you are correct. This type of mathematical wizardry always comes to the fore when Benitez transfers a player nowadays.