I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
That's actually rubbish, you'd want to get over the fact that your beloved RK buggered off and then heed your own advice from the first line of your post.
Holland and Kinsella both had good tournaments in 2002, without wanting to scapegoat Ian Harte we were weakest down our left and that's where we were targeted. No team in that tournament over ran us in centre mid, it's laughable to suggest that.
Lads, less of the personal stuff.
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I was at both of those games and no offence but that's pure garbage mate.
We dominated both those games for the bulk of the 90 and 120 minutes, particulalry the longer the match went on.
I understand you're still obviously upset over Saipan but basing arguments on fiction as a result because Roy was out walking Triggs rather then bossing the midfield does you no favours.
Thats your opinion.Look, I'm entitled to mine, and my belief was that our central midfield of which Holland was part of was overun in WC 2002. In fact, I cannot remember him playing well for us in a match of any importance when Keane did not partner him in midfield
You also said we dominated for the bulk of 120 minutes against Spain? Well from what I can remember we could have been more than one down to them at half time and played against 10 men for quite a part of extra time
Whether he was of the requisite talent or not is immaterial. He absolutely made the most of his talent and performed well for Ireland, as all top professionals do.
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I don't recall midfield being overrun in any game at WC02 either - bar maybe the first half of the first half in Suwon when the whole team wasn't at the races. Our second half performance in that game made me proud.
Overall it was well balanced and functional without being particularly punchy. Holland's goal in Niigata kept that campaign alive - probably the best goal from open play we've scored at a major finals.
Put sentiment aside - Houghton's 2 famous goals were both awful and Whelan's volley was off his shin but looked great. Holland's strike in Niigata was as sweet as you like, as was his crucial equaliser in Lisbon in a game where we deserved absolutely nothing.
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Fair enough, opinions are one's own.
But to counter, Spain had the best of the first half hour but by half time we'd begun to get back into it. We dominated the second half and the half hour extra time. So, even giving them the first 45, dominating for 75 minutes minimum of 120 makes up the bulk in any launguage. The fact they were down to 10 men for part of extra time is irrelevant, we were all over them at that stage.
Against Germany Oliver Khan kept them in the game, they were hanging on for dear life by the time we scored. We obviously bossed the Saudis and Holland scored the equaliser against Cameroon. I honestly just can't see where you could have saw us being over run in central midfield in WC 2002.
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
well maybe what i meant was, in the case of robbie keane's child for example. he was born in ireland, both his parents are irish, and i have no doubt he will be brought up as irish as can be even though a lot of this will be in england. still 100% irish in this case IMO.
look no way were we overan in those games. our midfield worked very well if my memory serves me right.
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