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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    I love how we have about a dozen promising young strikers, four or five of whom look like they could be real stars, and yet we still worry that a player like Delap could be "the one that got away". It's like we have this fatalistic view that all the forwards coming through will either flop, have careers blighted by injury, or will defect to England. Of course, Delap will probably now score fifty for England. Well at least it would make playing for England a more challenging prospect for Oko-Flex, should we need him.
    It's just that we are a greedy bunch of b. stards who want anyone with any affinity to play in green! No problem with that. ��

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    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38222401.html

    Strong words from Robbie. And very strong words on Luca Connell- "I'm telling you tight now, he'll play for us" and "I guarantee you 100% he is desperate to play for Ireland."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38222401.html

    Strong words from Robbie. And very strong words on Luca Connell- "I'm telling you tight now, he'll play for us" and "I guarantee you 100% he is desperate to play for Ireland."
    He is right about the chasing it's not the way to do business.

    're luca. Once someone says "100%" in any debate. I start to lose confidence in their views

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    He is right about the chasing it's not the way to do business.

    're luca. Once someone says "100%" in any debate. I start to lose confidence in their views
    That's why I always say 110%

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    https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status...059047425?s=19
    FAI leaving it all on the line for Kavanagh and his boy. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Strong words from Robbie. And very strong words on Luca Connell- "I'm telling you tight now, he'll play for us" and "I guarantee you 100% he is desperate to play for Ireland."
    I haven't heard such bullishness since, well...


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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelmusic View Post
    Based on current form Curtis Davies would be a nice addition.
    Naughton is a right back and not in the league of Coleman but maybe could do a job at left full?
    Wickham i don't rate and we've loads of decent but not great strikers
    Noble - better than Gibson/McCarhty? Not really
    Harry Kane - don't know enough about him but stats are underwhelming
    Bamford looks like a rising star so he would be one to chase, especially since he represented us before
    Redmond - he's under Chris Hughton so very possible he could make a move
    The Keanes - i really think they're set on England. There was plenty of furore before so i don't see either of them coming to us
    Callum McManaman: Same story as Kane for me
    That Harry Kane's stats are awful

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    That Harry Kane's stats are awful
    And of the Keanes that were set on England, we ended up with Will.

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    https://ulsterherald.com/2019/06/22/...l-bound-conor/

    Could be the next border dispute😀

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    Louie Barry offered a three year contract by West Brom on his sixteenth birthday, amid rumours of a move to Barcelona: https://www.skysports.com/football/n...elona-interest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungle View Post
    https://ulsterherald.com/2019/06/22/...l-bound-conor/

    Could be the next border dispute😀
    I saw this lad at the victory shield game in Kerry this year. An excellent box to box midfielder. Interestingly he was one of 3 lads in that starting team that night who had their heads bowed and looked very uneasy during God savd the queen. The big centre half also mentioned in that article was another

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Louie Barry offered a three year contract by West Brom on his sixteenth birthday, amid rumours of a move to Barcelona: https://www.skysports.com/football/n...elona-interest
    It doesn't seem a great deal if they are trying to kerl him surely a 4 year deal to take him up to 21 wouldn't break the bank if u are trying to fend off foreign sides

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    There used to be quite specific regulations regarding contracts for young players at different ages. Both minimum and maximum.

    A few years ago, you could only offer a maximum of 3 years at 16. Equally there are certain moments where clubs had to offer a minimum of 2 years (I think possibly after the player has graduated u18).

    Not sure the regulations right now but I imagine it’s not too far off that

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    I saw this lad at the victory shield game in Kerry this year. An excellent box to box midfielder. Interestingly he was one of 3 lads in that starting team that night who had their heads bowed and looked very uneasy during God savd the queen. The big centre half also mentioned in that article was another
    Good to hear. He would seem to be a top talent so hopefully we court him.

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    Another one off to the graveyard of Irish footballing talent that is Liverpool FC though. Unless he's unbelievably good he hasn't a hope, and even if he is the odds will be against him there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Another one off to the graveyard of Irish footballing talent that is Liverpool FC though. Unless he's unbelievably good he hasn't a hope, and even if he is the odds will be against him there.
    The footballing education he would get there is second to none and should make him a better player. Masterson has been linked with some good clubs so there is a way back for players. Players should be realistic of this fact when signing for clubs like city or liverpool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Another one off to the graveyard of Irish footballing talent that is Liverpool FC though. Unless he's unbelievably good he hasn't a hope, and even if he is the odds will be against him there.

    I think if you're going to a Top 6 club, you know you've got about a 1/25 to 1/50 chance of making the breakthrough at that club. They all tend to promote a not-already-established young player to the first team about once every a year or once every two years - but it certainly doesn’t stop the player from developing into a top footballer.


    Over the 7 or 8 years, Liverpool have brought through the likes of Spearing (55 app), Sterling (129), Ibe (58), Kelly (62), Wisdom (22), Suso (21), Flanagan (51), Gomez (66) and Alexander-Arnold (85).


    United have had the likes of Rashford, Lingaard, McTominey, Perreira, Fosuh-Mensah is borderline.


    City have had Foden, Zinchenko, Iheanacho, Boyata (a bit borderline)…


    Chelsea with Loftus-Cheek, Christiansen, Hudson-Odoi (on his way), Ampadu (on his way), Ake


    Arsenal with Bellerin, Iwobi, Maitland-Niles, Gnabry,


    Spurs: Kane, Winks, Alli, Winks, Walker Peters (on his way), Bentlaleb, Carroll.


    Plenty of our best young players have joined top 6 sides and probably no one has broken through since maybe Darron Gibson - at Liverpool it was probably Darren Potter, but he was scouse born so that’s a little different.


    Liverpool probably had quantity over quality. Of the previous batch, Cleary could probably still end up at a high high level. Trying to think who they had: Cleary, O’Hanlon, Mikey Collins, Jimmy Ryan, Joe Rafferty - no real standouts. If I think of the real standout underage players joining big six clubs, I’d look at Robbie Brady at United, Conor Clifford at Chelsea, Jack Byrne at City, Arsenal probably haven’t had a ‘can’t miss’ talent since Anto Stokes (unless Dan Crowley counts?) and Troy Parrott is probably the only Spurs player. Genuinely don’t think Liverpool have had a player of their ability who ‘should’ have really made it to an elite level since Joxer. They’ve perhaps had more youth players within the system but less of the top ones.


    I suppose you could argue that player X (let’s say Alex O’Hanlon) was the best U15 when he went across and Liverpool failed to truly develop that talent so he wasn’t standout by 17 or 18 - but I’m not sure that argument holds up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    I think if you're going to a Top 6 club, you know you've got about a 1/25 to 1/50 chance of making the breakthrough at that club. They all tend to promote a not-already-established young player to the first team about once every a year or once every two years - but it certainly doesn’t stop the player from developing into a top footballer.


    Over the 7 or 8 years, Liverpool have brought through the likes of Spearing (55 app), Sterling (129), Ibe (58), Kelly (62), Wisdom (22), Suso (21), Flanagan (51), Gomez (66) and Alexander-Arnold (85).


    United have had the likes of Rashford, Lingaard, McTominey, Perreira, Fosuh-Mensah is borderline.


    City have had Foden, Zinchenko, Iheanacho, Boyata (a bit borderline)…


    Chelsea with Loftus-Cheek, Christiansen, Hudson-Odoi (on his way), Ampadu (on his way), Ake


    Arsenal with Bellerin, Iwobi, Maitland-Niles, Gnabry,


    Spurs: Kane, Winks, Alli, Winks, Walker Peters (on his way), Bentlaleb, Carroll.


    Plenty of our best young players have joined top 6 sides and probably no one has broken through since maybe Darron Gibson - at Liverpool it was probably Darren Potter, but he was scouse born so that’s a little different.


    Liverpool probably had quantity over quality. Of the previous batch, Cleary could probably still end up at a high high level. Trying to think who they had: Cleary, O’Hanlon, Mikey Collins, Jimmy Ryan, Joe Rafferty - no real standouts. If I think of the real standout underage players joining big six clubs, I’d look at Robbie Brady at United, Conor Clifford at Chelsea, Jack Byrne at City, Arsenal probably haven’t had a ‘can’t miss’ talent since Anto Stokes (unless Dan Crowley counts?) and Troy Parrott is probably the only Spurs player. Genuinely don’t think Liverpool have had a player of their ability who ‘should’ have really made it to an elite level since Joxer. They’ve perhaps had more youth players within the system but less of the top ones.


    I suppose you could argue that player X (let’s say Alex O’Hanlon) was the best U15 when he went across and Liverpool failed to truly develop that talent so he wasn’t standout by 17 or 18 - but I’m not sure that argument holds up.

    If my kid can play he is going to a championship club that can guarantee he can complete his leaving cert in England along with playing football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    If my kid can play he is going to a championship club that can guarantee he can complete his leaving cert in England along with playing football.
    He can complete his leaving cert in Ireland?

    I know if either of my boys end up good enough, I'd prefer them to stay home and gain their football education here while completing their schooling at home.

    It's fast becoming a much better option for young players.

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