My point exactly!!Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I love that Hall & Oates song...."Your out of touch"
My point exactly!!
Thats another discussion. The question, was what do we do if Wheland does not make it and I said that Miller plays. I would not have him as the 3rd choice midfielder in the squad but thats where we are and Trap knows way more about football than I do.
In Trap we trust
Well, I've been critical of Miller in the past, but his performance against Nigeria has made me feel a bit better about his presence in the squad.
On current form, the likes of Chris McCann should be in the squad, but in terms of experience and accomplishments, Miller has the edge over McCann.
He has played Champions' League matches, played a key role in helping Sunderland to promotion, and has played 20 matches with the international side.
The gap in ability is not as wide as some would think, and there is something to be said about a 28 year old versus a 20 year old when we're playing an away game in a hostile environment.
I couldn't imagine me saying anything positive about Miller a week ago but I think you're absolutely right.
according to TOD on rte news, whelan and keane are expected to be fit, given wasnt even mentioned so one can assume he'll be fit too
Yeah both Keane and Whelan trained. Dunne did not train but that was just as a pre caution.
In Trap we trust
We played against Nigerias second or even third string team. To rebut your arguement, Chris McCann played a big part in helping Burnley to gain promotion to the Premiership, Liam Miller was deemed not worthy of a contract at mid table QPR. What Miller has done in the past is irrelevant, the match he is in the squad for is this Saturday, in the year 2009 not 2006/7.
I have a bad feeling that everything is not OK with Shay. Too quiet for my liking after all the ballyhoo about him playing at Fulham. Why the late call up for 2 keepers if we only need 1 to travel to cover Shay? If both Henderson and Doyle travel then we have to assume Shay is not 100% and they are hoping he will have enough time to be match fit. Hope I'm totally wrong.
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
Almost all international squads travel with three keepers, so I don't think that's cause for concern.
I'm sure Shay is fine, and when he sat out the training match the other day, it was probably so that Trap could watch the other two guys who he has had little exposure to as of yet.
Agree McCann is our in form central midfielder.
The thing with Miller is, judging by his performance against Nigeria, that he's best as the deep midfielder. His last 2 games have been beside Whelan and 2 before that Carsley who would have been playing that role. He's not a great player, decent, but probably isn't suited to playing beside someone like Whelan.
That's is absolutely ludicrous. Yeah, of course experience has no part to play in a crunch, away international fixtures.
No manager in their right mind would forget about Miller's experience playing and training with some of the best players in the world, playing in international and Champions League games and having years of playing Premier League and Championship football behind him.
But sure, throw John Joe O'Toole in there because he played well for the U-21s about six months ago and I'm sure he's learnt a lot under Kevin Blackwell (I noticed O'Toole wasn't even in the squad for the play off semi or final, was he injured?) You have to love armchair managers.
Is McCann even fit? He went off with a bad looking knock after only 25 minutes at Wembley.
Jicked - JJOT was injured.
Don't you just love Weldoninhio's cheery outlook? Nigeria's second or third string team? Didn't a lot of the same team beat a French XI in France straight afterwards? We played pretty much our own second string team against Nigeria.
Glenn Whelan is fit so it's all immaterial anyway.
Next topic to be miserable and pessimistic about?
Yep, I think he & Andrews complemented each other better.
Absolutely, before kick off I heard Andrews say "nice new boots Liam" and Miller say "ooh, and I love the way you fill your shorts Keith "
On radio this morning it said that Dunne is a risk - injury not clearing up - would be a massive loss
I love that song "fickle fan with short term memory loss".
have you ever seen them play? You musn't have.
Duff was our best player at home v cyprus not that long ago
but long enough for you to have forgotten
Which station?
The impression I got from the papers is that none of the injuries was a serious concern. This'd be bad alright.
Dunne seems to be leading a rallying call for this game.
One keeper gets injured in training the day before the game. Back up keeper gets sent off for a handball outside the area in the first minute of the match. Extremely unlikely but you need 3 keepers just in case so I think you're reading too much into that.
I'm more concerned over the fact that Given along with Dunne, Keane and Folan all sat out yesterday, hoping it's just precauntionary but am looking forward to the first reports back from this morning's session confirming all took part.
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