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    Starting 11 v Wales

    Probable: (knowing that like every other Muppet we've had managing us, he'll go with the easy option i.e. as you were, if Carr wasn't injured, he'd be right back of course )

    4-4-2

    Given

    Finnan,Dunne,McShane, O'Shea

    Ireland,Carlsley,Kilbane,Duff

    Keane,Doyle

    This is not too bad, but I wouldn't play a strict 4-4-2. I would not have O'Shea in the starting line up and would even prefer Harte but I would still be optimistic that this team can do well.

    I would also take a chance on Hunt as a starter probably dropping Kilbane to the bench. However, the Carlsley Kilbane combo should be strong and no harm in starting like this, but if no inroads are made he has to put on Hunt and/or McGeady.

    Irealnd's not doing great at Man City at the moment either and Hunt for Ireland in the above would be another option worh considering. Duff is way off his best and hopefully can pick it up v Wales and I am expecting him to take the opportunity to do so.

    Ideally though, he has the gumption to take O'Shea off if he puts in his usual half-hearted lack lustre display in the green jersey.

    Stan has said "we need to win our home games, and this is a home game, so we need to win it" just to clarify to those of us that thought that because it wasn't at Lansdowne that it could be an away game I guess!

    Anyway - GET BEHIND STAN AND THE TEAM TOMORROW BIGTIME NO FCUKIN BOOS EXCEPT FOR THE DELANEY MUPPET

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    he wont play ireland on the right thats for sure, he 'll either play duff or mcgeady there. I think he will go for carsley and ireland/Kilbane in the centre..

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    emmet malone(irish times) seems to suggest a probable line up of;

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    finnan, dunne, o'shea, harte
    duff, carsley, ireland, kilbane
    keane, doyle

    i'd put my money on the above team being named. variable would appear to be mcshane into CB, with o'shea diplacing ireland or harte

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenerased View Post
    he wont play ireland on the right thats for sure, he 'll either play duff or mcgeady there. I think he will go for carsley and ireland/Kilbane in the centre..
    Stan's confirmed that Ireland will start.

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    kilbane should not start anyway!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom hoop View Post
    emmet malone(irish times) seems to suggest a probable line up of;

    given
    finnan, dunne, o'shea, harte
    duff, carsley, ireland, kilbane
    keane, doyle

    i'd put my money on the above team being named. variable would appear to be mcshane into CB, with o'shea diplacing ireland or harte
    oh god - please don't be this team! Harte, O'shea and Kilbane - what a disaster that would be. We'd have nothing down our left and our defence would be dodgy, especially against bellamy's pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom hoop View Post
    emmet malone(irish times) seems to suggest a probable line up of;

    given
    finnan, dunne, o'shea, harte
    duff, carsley, ireland, kilbane
    keane, doyle
    Is McShane not fit? If he is then that is another disgraceful decision by Stan. The reason O'Shea played relatively well against Czechs is because McShane was beside him. Dunne isn't really the type that'll organise the defence and tell O'Shea where to be going. It has to be Dunne and McShane otherwise I fear for us.

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    I definitely think Hunt should start.

    He has looked an agressive, busy player everytime I've seen him play. Reminds me of Ray Houghton.
    Kilbane is willing but very limited.
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    HARTE!!!

    threads with he is world class .. and now this

    I know football is about opinions .. etc etc and not to attack the poster .. but anyone who seriously thinks that Harte should be in the team, needs their heads examined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser View Post
    I know football is about opinions .. etc etc and not to attack the poster .. but anyone who seriously thinks that Harte should be in the team, needs their heads examined.
    Well...... he is building for the future!!

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    My team would be:

    Given

    Finnan
    Dunne
    O Dea
    Harte

    McGeady
    Ireland
    Carsley
    Duff

    Keane
    Doyle

    Goalkeeper, obvious. The backline is strong except for Harte but he is a lot better than O Shea and can be useful at the set piece. McGeady and Duff out wide as they can take players on and are decent going back. I'd have Carsley in the holding role. He will be vital tommorow and hopefully he will break up the attack and let Ireland go forward. I cannot stand Robbie Keane but maybe he might score a goal or two and not routinely scuff them.

    The team likely to play:

    Given

    Finnan
    Dunne
    McShane
    O Shea

    Duff
    Ireland
    Carsley
    Kilbane

    Doyle
    Keane
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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser View Post
    HARTE!!!

    threads with he is world class .. and now this

    I know football is about opinions .. etc etc and not to attack the poster .. but anyone who seriously thinks that Harte should be in the team, needs their heads examined.
    it's based on robson saying harte was doing really well at training, though given it is robson it could equally have been finnan doing well

    o'shea is a golden boy in management's eyes so i'd be amazed if he didnt start, somewhere. if ireland is definitely starting then it's either left back for sheasy or mcshane doesnt start, one would imagine.

    as much as i'd like to see hunt be given his head(no pun intended) kilbane will probably make his 42nd consecutive appearance

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    What I hate about threads like these is that the Subject is open to debate. Do you put the team you want to see selected or the team we believe the manager will select.

    I think he'll select

    Given
    Finnan --- Dunne --- O'Shea --- Harte
    Duff --- Carsley --- Ireland --- Kilbane
    Keane -- Doyle

    Team I would pick

    Given
    Finnan -- Dunne -- McShane -- O'Dea
    McGeady -- Carlsey -- Douglas -- Duff
    Keane -- Doyle

    I am a fan of KK's ultimately because regardless of things are going around him or for him, he God honestly tries his heart out and wants to do well. Plus he's a giant. We have a small team. Realistically its himself Dunne and O'Shea for all setpieces. If he plays tomorrow watch how many headers he willwin from Shay's kick outs.
    Having said that, we know are in a position with Dunne, McShane, ODea if he was selected, Doyle and Douglas as options in the box. Remember it was a clattering Douglas header that set up the goal against the Czechs. As we know we have better options on the left going forward than Kilbane now, and if the deficiencies which he covers are removed from the other areas of the team then there is no place for him currently.
    I would like to see Douglas given a run out. This game will be a war and two ruff and tumble players in the middle will be of use, particularily if our two skillful outlets are on the wing in Duff and McGeady. I'm not convinced by Stephen Ireland and I'm convinced he can flourish in a 4 man midfield for us.
    Last edited by Kingdom; 23/03/2007 at 2:12 PM.
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    I think he'll select

    Given
    Finnan --- Dunne --- O'Shea --- Harte
    Duff --- Carsley --- Ireland --- Kilbane
    Keane -- Doyle


    My team

    Given

    Finnan--Dunne--O'Dea--McShane

    Hunt--Carsley--Duff

    Keane(always ends up playing here anyway)

    Stokes-- Doyle
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    Where are people getting the idea that Mc Shane is a left back.
    Last edited by NeilMcD; 23/03/2007 at 2:33 PM.
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    Probably the same people that thought McGrath or Lawerson were midfielders
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    I don't see the link. Mc Shane is a right footed up and at them centre back who is good in the air but is not the most mobile. He has filled in at right back for West Brom this season. How does that translate that he should start left back against Wales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    Where are people getting the idea that Mc Shane is a left back.
    Where do people get the idea that Mc and O are interchangeable

    Ooh ah Paul o Grath

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I don't see the link. Mc Shane is a right footed up and at them centre back who is good in the air but is not the most mobile. He has filled in at right back for West Brom this season. How does that translate that he should start left back against Wales.
    Apologies Neil I was to have Odea at left back and MCShane in the middle where he did wonderfully against the Czechs.
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    Looks like Ireland is starting, presumably alongside Carsley: http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1851
    Staunton confirmed that the presence of Ireland at the conference signified his intention of starting the 20 years old Manchester City player in midfield.
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