The Rangers Directory

**Paddy Ramone** · 12/01/2004, 2:28 PM

There should be a Rangers Directory as well to show we are "non-sectarian".

Let's start with the GAA.

There's Crossmaglen Rangers in the heart of Republican South Armagh

as well as Nemo Rangers in County Cork and Laune Rangers in County Kerry.

**Paddy Ramone** · 12/01/2004, 2:53 PM

Originally posted by davros
Well some did get a passing mention in the Celtic Directory;To state 2 obvious ones who didn't,from Britain!Q.P.R.& some team from Edminston Drive,Glasgow,G51.......their full name escapes me....

It wouldn't be "Glasgow Rangers" or is it "Rangers"? I think the official name is Rangers.

Same with Celtic. Is it "Glasgow Celtic" or "Celtic"? Some Celtic fans hate their side being called "Glasgow Celtic". Glasgow mean "dear green place" in Gaelic. You'd think they'd be proud of that. Yet more evidence of the fact that Celtic are a Unionist and anti-Scottish football club.

**Paddy Ramone** · 12/01/2004, 3:19 PM

Originally posted by davros
So Celtic are the same,as erstwhile contributor to these pages,D.Gardener?I THINK NOT.............

Well they are "unionist" with a small "u". There's always been a strong link between Celtic and the pro-unionist Scottish Labour Party.

Much of the sectarianism in Glasgow was imported from Ireland which is good argument for saying Rangers are as "Irish" as Celtic are.

There is little sectarianism in the Highlands and other parts of Scotland. The shinty team Oban Celtic chose their name instead of "Oban Rangers" after a coin was tossed.

**liam88** · 12/01/2004, 6:56 PM

"Rangers are as "Irish" as Celtic are. "

Let's take the vote. Is Shankhill Irish?

**nlgbbbblth** · 12/01/2004, 7:01 PM

Originally posted by liam88
"Rangers are as "Irish" as Celtic are. "

Let's take the vote. Is Shankhill Irish?

YES

**Paddy Ramone** · 13/01/2004, 7:57 AM

Originally posted by liam88
"Rangers are as "Irish" as Celtic are. "

Let's take the vote. Is Shankhill Irish?

YES. Shankill is Sean Cill in Irish which means the old church. Some Unionists say they are Irish as well as British, like the English, Scots and Welsh are also British.

The people of the Shankill are actually have a stronger claim on Irishness than sixth generation Celtic fans, since most of them of born on the island of Ireland.

What Celtic are a Hiberno-Scottish club or an Irish-Scottish club in plain man's language. To say they are an "Irish" club is ridiculous.

**Shed End John** · 13/01/2004, 8:43 AM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
as well as Nemo Rangers in County Cork

Some sense of geography you have. Nemo are a city club. I live about 1.5 miles away on the Douglas side of their grounds and I'm still inside the City limits. They're the Barrs (St. Finbarrs) hated city rivals and I wouldn't give a twopenny f**k if they dropped off the face of the Earth tomorrow.

**Paddy Ramone** · 13/01/2004, 9:04 AM

Originally posted by Shed End John
Some sense of geography you have. Nemo are a city club. I live about 1.5 miles away on the Douglas side of their grounds and I'm still inside the City limits. They're the Barrs (St. Finbarrs) hated city rivals and I wouldn't give a twopenny f**k if they dropped off the face of the Earth tomorrow.

Well Cork City is in County Cork.

**Shed End John** · 13/01/2004, 9:28 AM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
Well Cork City is in County Cork.

Fair point, but, read the Examiner when the County Championship draws are made.
Football- Barrs, Nemo the big City teams
Hurling-Barrs, Blackrock, Glen Rovers the big City teams.

It's an important distinction, as much because the county clubs lovev beating their city counterparts as anything else.

**lopez** · 14/01/2004, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
The people of the Shankill are actually have a stronger claim on Irishness than sixth generation Celtic fans, since most of them of born on the island of Ireland.

Don't mean to be rude, but let's ask the people themselves...

Ali G to Sammy Wilson (DUP MLA): Is you Hirish?

SW to AG: No. I'm British.

AG to SW: Oh!

So you is a tourist like me?

SW:

**Paddy Ramone** · 14/01/2004, 1:16 PM

Originally posted by lopez
Don't mean to be rude, but let's ask the people themselves...

Ali G to Sammy Wilson (DUP MLA): Is you Hirish?

SW to AG: No. I'm British.

AG to SW: Oh! So you is a tourist like me?

SW:

They were "Irish" up to 1921. We also have the "Irish League" the "Irish Cup", the "Irish FA". Northern Ireland wear green, have a Celtic cross emblem with shamrocks. The IFA called their side "Ireland" up until the late 60's and picked players from the Republic until 1950. Sammy McIlroy still calls the Northern Ireland team "Ireland". Might expain why he was such a useless manager, he didn't even know what counry's team he was in charge of.

Also in KAI is written on Loyalist walls in the North. KAI stands for "Kill All Irish". Does that include the Irish FA.

**lopez** · 14/01/2004, 8:18 PM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
They were "Irish" up to 1921. We also have the "Irish League" the "Irish Cup", the "Irish FA". Northern Ireland wear green, have a Celtic cross emblem with shamrocks. The IFA called their side "Ireland" up until the late 60's and picked players from the Republic until 1950. Sammy McIlroy still calls the Northern Ireland team "Ireland". Might expain why he was such a useless manager, he didn't even know what counry's team he was in charge of.

Also in KAI is written on Loyalist walls in the North. KAI stands for "Kill All Irish". Does that include the Irish FA.

It's a bit like the Boers calling themselves Afrikaans and the tans' army in India, the Indian Army. It gives their imperialism a legitimate veneer, while in the case of our friends up north, means they can dodge the real question of what is really their country.

**liam88** · 14/01/2004, 9:10 PM

Originally posted by Conor74
Of course it is. All Dublin is Irish,

Shankhill-West Belfast, Union Jacks All over, God Save the Queen sung all the time, "F**k the Fenians"-how the heck is any of this Irish?

TheRealRovers · 17/01/2004, 10:34 AM

Yes the Shankhill is part of Ireland give it 15/20 years and it will be part of a united 32county republic

Also Manornhamilton Rangers from Leitrim they play in the Sligo League

**Duncan Gardner** · 17/01/2004, 11:24 AM

Repeatedly misspelling "Shankhill" (sic) doesn't make it any less Irish

**lopez** · 17/01/2004, 9:19 PM

Originally posted by davros
KFC is the loyalist preferred'fast food';Apart from the colour scheme.......is an an acronym for the preferred activies of the LVF!In case you're struggling,it stands for pretty much the above,with ' ****** catholics'instead of 'all Irish'.....& not not my paranoia...!

I thought it would be Kill Fenian C*nts. Anyway in the Adair biog he and his beautiful wife, the fragrant Gina, is pictured showing off their shooting skills at a West Belfast 'Cultural' festival with a no entry sign with a tricolour in the middle with what looks like the words 'No Irish' underneath.

**Duncan Gardner** · 18/01/2004, 10:40 AM

It's Irish, it's always been Irish and it's staying Irish (the Old Church Road, I mean).

Much as that may disappoint the Bolton Wanderette

**Paddy Ramone** · 19/01/2004, 7:47 PM

Originally posted by liam88
Shankhill-West Belfast, Union Jacks All over, God Save the Queen sung all the time, "F**k the Fenians"-how the heck is any of this Irish?

If you don't regard the Shankill as Irish, then you must be a Unionist. You're not a "Republican" anyway because Republicans regard the Unionists as their fellow misguided Irishmen who have the misconception that they are British but really are Irish.

Your comment on the people of the Shankill show's the mentality of some Celtic supporters who think Irishness and Catholicism are the same. I wouldn't be surprised if Celtic and Rangers were part of some great "divide and conquer" conspiracy by the British to keep Scotland under British rule and Ireland partitioned.

**lopez** · 20/01/2004, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
...You're not a "Republican" anyway because Republicans regard the Unionists as their fellow misguided Irishmen who have the misconception that they are British but really are Irish.

Your comment on the people of the Shankill show's the mentality of some Celtic supporters who think Irishness and Catholicism are the same...

To suggest that unionists are 'misguided' is to suggest that they are all stupid, which is ridiculous. Like it or not, and I'm no supporter of partition, but if they think they are British - and quite a few have died for Britain - I'm not going to argue about what they consider their nationality or ethnicity.

**Paddy Ramone** · 20/01/2004, 11:29 AM

The first Irish Republicans were Ulster Prebyterians. There's even a prominent member of the DUP who claims descent from Henry Joy McCracken.

Some Unionists claim descent from the Cruithin the original inhabitants of Ireland before the Celts.

If there was ever to be a United Ireland an accomodation would have to be reached with the Protestant people in Northern Ireland. They belong on this island just as much as we do.