Dave Rogers Sacked

**marinobohs** · 03/07/2009, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

What planet are you guys living on.

Drop your togs for a second and its so abhorrent you get fired.

Bring Merrion square to a standstill, terrify FAI staff (including a heavily pregnant lady), cost the taxpayer countless (tens) thousands, get convicted for said offence, all in the name of Dundalk FC and you are given a fundraiser inside Oriel Park and hailed a hero, and never even chastised.

Never mind the decisiveness, where is the consistency?. If Maxi pulled his stunt in the last few weeks and had been earning a wage at Dundalk he would have been fired.

Connor dropping his togs before the league cup final a couple of years ago didn't stop Dundalk appointing him as manager, did it?

Celdrog don't even bother trying to show the inconsistency applied by dundalk -Maxi, Rogers, Connor - unfortunately contributors here are unable or unwilling to face the hypocrisy of the clubs reactions.

Apparently defending the undefendable is the Dundalk way, when it suits them ignore the offence and when it suits them "act decisevely". There is none so blind.........

**marinobohs** · 03/07/2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Might be true, but seems a really arrogant attitude!

The five match ban you referred to, was the maximum sanction open to the league. Perhaps the "it's part of football, there's nothing you can do about it" attitude displayed by his manager was part of the reason why there was no mitigation given by the league.

Weather you agree or not with the severity of the sanction imposed by Dundalk, there is no doubt about the decisiveness.

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I am glad that you recognise that McGuinness received the MAXIMUM sanction for his stupidity - what more could apply ? Bohs
and the player accepted the punishment (no appeal), again what do you expect as the MAXIMUM punishment was additional to a club ban and fine ? Nutsey apoligised to the player concerned and his manager and at no time sought to justify it - so much for his attitude.

Would at least agree that Dundalk action was "decisive" but then again so is the death penalty

**mcgonigle** · 03/07/2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Is this still going on? Eugh.

Yes unfortunatly it is, I thought all that needed to be said was said three weeks ago when the thread went dead. Correctly it was brought back to life when a date for a hearing was set and posted by shep.

But unfortunatly MarinoBohs fascination with everything Dundalk got the better of him and he started talking rubbish again, completely off topic. I think he has a soft spot for us

**micls** · 03/07/2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

Mr Rogers dropped his shorts, serious breach of gross misconduct and was duly punished by the board who took a stance unlike your club who only acted in the Mcguinness affair because it was in the public domain.

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

While I think that Sean Connor has been unwise this clearly does not equate to Dave Rogers' madness.

These comments might have more credence, if the same board hadn't hired a manager who himself thought it appropriate to drop his pants in the middle of a football stadium when his team were playing Derry last year.

Or doesnt it count because it was during the warm up rather than during the game?

If your board were that against 'mooning', they'd never have hired Connor.

**marinobohs** · 03/07/2009, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by mcgonigle

But unfortunatly MarinoBohs fascination with everything Dundalk got the better of him and he started talking rubbish again, completely off topic. I think he has a soft spot for us

I know an excellent swamp

**mcgonigle** · 03/07/2009, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

I know an excellent swamp

Ah thanks, now I feel obliged to compliment your future apartments but I'll wait until you're in the Champions League with millions in the bank

**Celdrog** · 03/07/2009, 6:55 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Celdrog don't even bother trying to show the inconsistency applied by dundalk

But we've no match until Sunday, have to amuse myself somehow.

**mcgonigle** · 03/07/2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

But we've no match until Sunday, have to amuse myself somehow.

Just look at the league table until then, amuses me no end, have a good weekend

**Ezeikial** · 08/07/2009, 3:35 PM

Article in todays Dundalk Democrat identifies the "Disputes Resolution Committee" as the forum for the hearing scheduled for July 16.

Is anyone aware if this is within the Labour Court framework or is this an FAI committee?

DUNDALK DEMOCRAT 8 JULY 2009

Lisburn hopeful of signing Rogers
Lisburn Distillery manager Jimmy Brown remains "confident" in signing former Dundalk defender Dave Rogers.
Rogers is currently embroiled in a disciplinary dispute with the Lilywhites after being dismissed for baring his backside to St Patricks Athletic fans during a fixture in May.
Dundalk have accused Rogers of "gross misconduct" but the defender has appealed against the decision with a Disputes Resolution Committee to settle the case on July 16.
Whites boss Brown - who was previously technical assistant at Dundalk- is hoping the matter can be resolved to pave the way for Rogers' move to Ballyskeagh.
"Dave was at our Europa League game against FC Zestafoni, and he is committed to coming here on a permanent deal this summer. All I know is that Dave is an experiences, talented player, and I would love to see him at Distillery. He would be a big assest."

**John83** · 08/07/2009, 4:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Is anyone aware if this is within the Labour Court framework or is this an FAI committee?

FIFA have a body by that name, but it could be a labour court thing too.

**Dalymountrower** · 08/07/2009, 4:50 PM

Originally Posted by John83

FIFA have a body by that name, but it could be a labour court thing too.

No, nothing to do with the Labour Court, must be either an FAI gig or just lazy journalism.

**SkStu** · 09/07/2009, 2:19 AM

its different in every sector but usually a dispute resolution committee is a non-binding hearing aimed at resolving a dispute prior to an arbitration. It can be judicial in nature but its not always the case. It will likely just a frank discussion between representatives of both sides.

**Dodge** · 09/07/2009, 9:08 AM

Dispute resolution committee sounds vaguely GAAish to me

I'm guessing lazy journalism

**Longfordian** · 09/07/2009, 11:29 AM

No it's some kind of FAI interrogation/torture chamber. We were up in front of it with Stephen Paisley a few years ago.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 29/07/2009, 5:27 PM

Ex-Dundalk defender Dave Rogers has won a case against his former club who dismissed him following an incident during a league game against St Patrick's Athletic.

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**Ezeikial** · 29/07/2009, 5:51 PM

There does not appear to be an indication of the financial compensation awarded to Rogers - I trust he has done better then Albert Reynolds in his libel victory over the Times!

From what I hear Dundalk FC are not entirely dissatisfied with the award, and intend to adhere to this non-binding recommendation. I have heard it described as the most cost-effective player "transfer" this season.

I can't help but laugh at Stephen McGuinness pontificating about clubs treating their players with disrespect in the light of Rogers' actions.

Statement on PFAI website:
http://www.pfai.ie/index.php?mod=one...fdd3326940a68a

**Dodge** · 29/07/2009, 7:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

I can't help but laugh at Stephen McGuinness pontificating

You must know how McGuinness feels after your pontificating on this and other matters

**Celdrog** · 29/07/2009, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

not entirely dissatisfied

So, that means they are somewhat dissatisfied or even not fully satisfied with the outcome.

Will all the Dundalk fans now acknowledge what the rest of us said, in that Dundalk were in the wrong to sack him and that legally, it was not gross misconduct?