Dave Rogers Sacked

[shep]

Hearing set for July 16th

[marinobohs]

Hearing set for July 16th

neat dress essential or just shorts ?

[marinobohs]

Now if you cannot see the difference between a club taking action (Dundalk) before any money problems arise and a club burying its head in the sand to ignore its serious money issues (bohs) then I suggest you lie down but carry on making a fool of yourself on this forum because it is entertaining.

the facts remain Bohs are REDUCING prices for some home matches (cat B games) wheras Dundalk are INCREASING prices for home games. Hopefully some one at Dundalk will understand this hugely complex economioc equation (lie down if necessary) and we can all get back to the disgraceful sacking of a Dundalk employee (the thread title gives a hint).

[pól-dcfc]

the facts remain Bohs are REDUCING prices for some home matches (cat B games) wheras Dundalk are INCREASING prices for home games. Hopefully some one at Dundalk will understand this hugely complex economioc equation (lie down if necessary) and we can all get back to the disgraceful sacking of a Dundalk employee (the thread title gives a hint).

You've a real hard-on for Dundalk at the moment.

[jinxy lilywhite]

the facts remain Bohs are REDUCING prices for some home matches (cat B games) wheras Dundalk are INCREASING prices for home games. Hopefully some one at Dundalk will understand this hugely complex economioc equation (lie down if necessary) and we can all get back to the disgraceful sacking of a Dundalk employee (the thread title gives a hint).

dude I think you are seriously deluded. We started the season off as the club in the premier league that had the lowest prices to see a game in the league. €10 in to the Ground and €15 into the stand. Now admittedly I was suprised when they announced that they would not increase their price at the beginning of this season because we where seeing a better class of opposition.
Into the season the club ask supporters for ideas on fundraising because of fears of a projected shortfall. Now a good proprtion of supporters advised the club that a raise in prices to a normal level across the league and that the board where seriously undervaluing the product that we where selling. The club raised the prices of the games to a level that is somewhat similar to every other club in the league. The increase in prices has no effect on our attendence and has been generally accepted by the vast majority of supporters.

i have tried to dumb this down for you bohs fans as best i can but i do think you are not seeing the bigger picture here. So you go on now and look after the mess that your board are putting your club in

btw D Rogers termination of employment was in no way digraceful. you'd expect at his age that he'd know better. Fully confident that dundalk fc will be absolved of all fault in this matter.

[Dodge]

He's in no way deluded. He simply stated that Dundalk have increased some prices, and Bohs have decreased some prices. These are facts

The justification of these movements can be argued but the facts speak for themselves

[marinobohs]

He's in no way deluded. He simply stated that Dundalk have increased some prices, and Bohs have decreased some prices. These are facts

The justification of these movements can be argued but the facts speak for themselves

the facts are obviously behond the comprehension of some Dundalk contributors. nobody claimed they were cheaper/dearer or anything else. I simply stated that Bohs had DECREASED prices and Dundalk had INCREASED prices. These are facts but like so many other facts (fair procedure etc) it appears easier for some to ignore them.

[Ezeikial]

the facts remain Bohs are REDUCING prices for some home matches (cat B games) wheras Dundalk are INCREASING prices for home games. Hopefully some one at Dundalk will understand this hugely complex economioc equation (lie down if necessary) and we can all get back to the disgraceful sacking of a Dundalk employee (the thread title gives a hint).

You do a neat line in hypocrisy - you reply to a post thats 3 weeks old (that you orginally took off on a tangent), and then complain about it being off-topic!

[marinobohs]

You do a neat line in hypocrisy - you reply to a post thats 3 weeks old (that you orginally took off on a tangent), and then complain about it being off-topic!

Mea culpa ! Thought I was providing clarification on a point (RE admittance prices). I aknowledged that this was off topic and suggested going back ON topic. I don't think Dundalk can talk about hypocrisy given their recent action RE Rogers and inaction RE Connor (loved his rant about Bohs and racism - very classy) but hey they are new to the Premier and may have lost the run of themselves

[jinxy lilywhite]

Mea culpa ! Thought I was providing clarification on a point (RE admittance prices). I aknowledged that this was off topic and suggested going back ON topic. I don't think Dundalk can talk about hypocrisy given their recent action RE Rogers and inaction RE Connor (loved his rant about Bohs and racism - very classy) but hey they are new to the Premier and may have lost the run of themselves

Hypocrisy coming from a bohs fan eh. your team pose for photo displaying "give racism the red card" and "kick racism out of football", one of your players racially abuse an opponent and all he gets is a slap across the wrist and a 5 match ban. where is the zero tolerance??
Mr Rogers dropped his shorts, serious breach of gross misconduct and was duly punished by the board who took a stance unlike your club who only acted in the Mcguinness affair because it was in the public domain.

[SkStu]

Hypocrisy coming from a bohs fan eh. your team pose for photo displaying "give racism the red card" and "kick racism out of football", one of your players racially abuse an opponent and all he gets is a slap across the wrist and a 5 match ban. where is the zero tolerance??
Mr Rogers dropped his shorts, serious breach of gross misconduct and was duly punished by the board who took a stance unlike your club who only acted in the Mcguinness affair because it was in the public domain.

fair play to Dundalk for taking such an admirable stance against mooning. And to do so without following applicable labour law procedures is even more admirable.

Fair play Dundalk, that'll learn those mooning b*stards! Scourge of our game!

[marinobohs]

Hypocrisy coming from a bohs fan eh. your team pose for photo displaying "give racism the red card" and "kick racism out of football", one of your players racially abuse an opponent and all he gets is a slap across the wrist and a 5 match ban. where is the zero tolerance??
Mr Rogers dropped his shorts, serious breach of gross misconduct and was duly punished by the board who took a stance unlike your club who only acted in the Mcguinness affair because it was in the public domain.

what do you suggest ? sack him ? public execution ? I can only suggest you never kicked a football if you attach such seriousness to comments made in the heat of a match (this is NOT IN ANY WAY to ever justify racist comments simply to apply some context).

Presumably your newly found zero tolerence wil be applied to managers making disrepectful remarks about the League Champions ? didn't think so.

By the way, Bohs and Pat Fenlon dealt with the issue in Sligo after the match was finished (and brought to Fenlons attention) while you may feel they dealt with it badly (matter of opinion) to suggest they did not deal with it is simply wrong.

The hypocricy displayed at Dundalk has been in the different attitude to the cases of two employees (Rogers and Connor).

[Ezeikial]

I can only suggest you never kicked a football if you attach such seriousness to comments made in the heat of a match (this is NOT IN ANY WAY to ever justify racist comments simply to apply some context).

It sure appears like a justification to me......

Presumably your newly found zero tolerence wil be applied to managers making disrepectful remarks about the League Champions ? didn't think so.

The hypocricy displayed at Dundalk has been in the different attitude to the cases of two employees (Rogers and Connor).

While I think that Sean Connor has been unwise, and in some cases foolish, in some of the comments he has made in Dundalk FC Magazine, this clearly does not equate to either racial abuse or Dave Rogers' madness.

What comment did you find "disrespectful"?

[SkStu]

was he even talking to you ezekial?

McGuinness apologised immediately afterward to Boco suggesting that it was a heat of the moment thing. Therefore what Marino is posting is a fair interpretation of what happened and therefore a reasonable deduction to make that McGuinness is not a cross burning, KKK member at weekends.

and another thing, its your fellow Dundalk supporters trying to score points by comparing the punishments meted out for racism on one hand and a player mooning on the other. Ridiculous.

[Ezeikial]

was he even talking to you ezekial?

I think he was posting his comment on a public forum, but maybe you know something I don't SkStu?

McGuinness apologised immediately afterward to Boco suggesting that it was a heat of the moment thing. Therefore what Marino is posting is a fair interpretation of what happened and therefore a reasonable deduction to make that McGuinness is not a cross burning, KKK member at weekends.

There is some similarities alright between Dave Rogers and Jason McGuinness. They both issued apologies of a sort, and I have no doubt that both regretted their actions.

The crucial difference is the disciplinary action taken by their respective clubs.

Dundalk was decisive and firm (even if the technical procedure is found to be flawed), while Bohs was a weak and token action

and another thing, its your fellow Dundalk supporters trying to score points by comparing the punishments meted out for racism on one hand and a player mooning on the other. Ridiculous.

I agree there is a lot of point scoring, but MarinoBohs sets out his stall that way, and it's inevitable that others (myself included) respond - perhaps ignoring this wind-up stuff would be the best option!

[SkStu]

I think he was posting his comment on a public forum, but maybe you know something I don't SkStu?

fair enough - though i probably know a lot that you dont...

There is some similarities alright between Dave Rogers and Jason McGuinness. They both issued apologies of a sort, and I have no doubt that both regretted their actions.

The crucial difference is the disciplinary action taken by their respective clubs.

Dundalk was decisive and firm (even if the technical procedure is found to be flawed), while Bohs was a weak and token action

but they are totally different offences. One, it could be (and definitely will be)debated, is not even a sackable offence. The other is a major offence, though one that was apologised for and was addressed twice - once by the club and again by the League body who gathered the facts, accepted McGuinness' remorse and apology and deemed it worthy of a 5 match ban. I just think it is a pretty weak argument to try and compare the two beyond the point that both players were idiots.

I agree there is a lot of point scoring, but MarinoBohs sets out his stall that way, and it's inevitable that others (myself included) respond - perhaps ignoring this wind-up stuff would be the best option!

Maybe, but i dont think its any more WUMmery than you average poster here. Best to rise to the bait and see what happens in my opinion!!

[Ezeikial]

fair enough - though i probably know a lot that you dont...

Might be true, but seems a really arrogant attitude!

but they are totally different offences. One, it could be (and definitely will be)debated, is not even a sackable offence. The other is a major offence, though one that was apologised for and was addressed twice - once by the club and again by the League body who gathered the facts, accepted McGuinness' remorse and apology and deemed it worthy of a 5 match ban. I just think it is a pretty weak argument to try and compare the two beyond the point that both players were idiots.

The contrast is in how both clubs reacted.

The five match ban you referred to, was the maximum sanction open to the league. Perhaps the "it's part of football, there's nothing you can do about it" attitude displayed by his manager was part of the reason why there was no mitigation given by the league.

Weather you agree or not with the severity of the sanction imposed by Dundalk, there is no doubt about the decisiveness.

Whatever about Dave Rogers' chances of a favourable ruling regarding the dismissal procedure, I suspect that he has little chance on the core issue of Gross Misconduct.

[SligoBrewer]

Is this still going on? Eugh.

[Celdrog]

Weather you agree or not with the severity of the sanction imposed by Dundalk, there is no doubt about the decisiveness.

What planet are you guys living on.

Drop your togs for a second and its so abhorrent you get fired.

Bring Merrion square to a standstill, terrify FAI staff (including a heavily pregnant lady), cost the taxpayer countless (tens) thousands, get convicted for said offence, all in the name of Dundalk FC and you are given a fundraiser inside Oriel Park and hailed a hero, and never even chastised.

Never mind the decisiveness, where is the consistency?. If Maxi pulled his stunt in the last few weeks and had been earning a wage at Dundalk he would have been fired.

Connor dropping his togs before the league cup final a couple of years ago didn't stop Dundalk appointing him as manager, did it?

[Dunny]

Another moanfest.

Yawn.