QuoteYeah I'm delighted he's doing well at the mo,I always check the paper to see how he's done.Hopefully he's proving his critics wrong,many of them Ireland fans,but I always thought he did a job for us
The most inform Irish player in the premiership this season.
He was playing in the middle against Arsenal and according to reports played very well.
Yeah I'm delighted he's doing well at the mo,I always check the paper to see how he's done.Hopefully he's proving his critics wrong,many of them Ireland fans,but I always thought he did a job for us
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I'm just off out the door for the ten-minute walk to Loftus Road to watch him in action this afternoon for Everton against Fulham. I'll report back on how he does.
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Kevin Kilbane should never set foot in an Irish midfield again, playing Duff, the best left-midfielder in the world, out of posistion to accomidate a horse like Kilbane is madness.
Not arsed going through this again,but I'll just reiterate once what I've said many times before.
You can have Duff on the pitch in his best position granted and have Kilbane on the bench,but who's on the right?Lee Carsley?Finnan?Reid?Not wingers or players who will cause any damage really.Or you can play Duff right and Kilbane left where you have two wingers capable of going down the line and getting crosses in and being a threat to the opposition.My choice would be the latter option but that's just me.
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Kilbane was superb through the centre of midfield for Everton today in what was overall a lacklustre team performance. For anyone that's watched him closely in the green, he was a different player altogether. Proof positive, were it needed, that he is a total "confidence" player. Worth the admission fee alone, and if Kerr persists with him in the squad, I won't complain if he can reproduce the same form as today.
But therein lies the $64,000 question.
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Its a very sad state of affairs when Kilbane shines in any midfield. And now with truely talented players like Duff on the left, Andy Ried, Miller and Finnan or Carr on the right available, there should be no place for a workhorse like Kilbane in the Irish midfield, he is simply not good enough and is not even in the same league as the players mentioned above.Originally posted by Conor74
You weren't at the Ireland - Russia game in Dublin I take it? The only midfielder who looked competent was Kilbane.
Duff on the left and Andy Reid out of position on the right is far better then Kilbane anywhere and our best player woefully misued for about the 50th time.
Yeah, we've friendlys to try these things out but ideally I think that's our best system. Duff on the left and Andy Reid on the right but given a free role to more or less do what he does for Forest, probably Miller and one of the other potential central mid fielders in the middle.Originally posted by Conor74
True, but to date we've not really had the opportunity to experiment. Hopefully the upcoming friendlies will see if players like Reid and Miller (or maybe even an ageing Kavanagh, everything should be checked) can make the grade at international level...
I never really liked kilbane but on his recent form he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet. What a goal he scored today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kilbane has done well in greenh. He has always given 100% and never hid. That's all we can ask. He is also flying with Everton at the moment.
Yes he has his limitations but we've played a lot worse.
Course he is not in Duff's class but neither is anyone else in our squad. He is well worth a place in thew squad and room can be made for him in the team. I wish the lot of them had his guys and commitment.
I find that a very blinkered view. OK, KK will never be a world beater, but he has been quite consistent for Ireland (pls, no-one say consistently crap, because that is total BS). Agaisnt Russia he was outstanding, in the World Cup, he was one of our stars.Originally posted by carnstien
Its a very sad state of affairs when Kilbane shines in any midfield. And now with truely talented players like Duff on the left, Andy Ried, Miller and Finnan or Carr on the right available, there should be no place for a workhorse like Kilbane in the Irish midfield, he is simply not good enough and is not even in the same league as the players mentioned above.
I am delighted he is doing well for Everton, in the Premiership, playing in central midfied . Between himself and Matty Holland, we have two in form players for that position.
To say that Andy Reid is the answer is twaddle. One place where Kilbane isnt in his league is in reality. Prem Vs 1st Div. Reid, while a good prospect, has played one international against the super streangth of Canada. he is shining for forest who are getting dizzy at the height of 20th in English 1st Div. Miller, has no experience, and plays for a good team in a league the standard of the eL 1st division.
Ok, lets be honest, ideally, we would have better players than KK, we dont, he is playing well, so please stop begrudging and support him. Though i get the feeling that even if he were to score a hat trick in the world cup final some would still say he is rubbish.
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I stopped reading after that. Please tell me you're taking the ****, if not, who was our other star? Ian Harte?Originally posted by Gary
in the World Cup, he was one of our stars.
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I think Gary Breen was outstanding for us in the World Cup. Harte? Well he is out of his depth.
And Slash/Ed, try and have an open mind about what i said about KK.
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Breen was class yes but I'm afraid having an open mind with what someone says is hard when they claim something as outlandish as Kilbane was one of our stars during the world cup.
my position on this kind of debate has always been that you play your form players. At the moment we have three (well, four, but I won't go there Conor) Irish players playing very well in central midfield roles in the Prem.
Holland, Kilbane and DeLap are all having very good seasons.
Duff has been magnificent for Chelsea.
Kavanagh and Reid have being doing well in the first.
Whatever four we pick should be from that selection. I'd have
Kilbane Kavanagh Holland Duff
although Delap offers more going forward than Kavanagh, i think graham should get another decent shot.
I wouldn't have expected you to say anything less stupidOriginally posted by carnstien
Kevin Kilbane should never set foot in an Irish midfield again
Having seen him in the flesh yesterday, so to speak, I agree. He's a "confidence" player, and right now, he has that confidence. Worth another shot IMHO.Originally posted by Éanna
Kilbane has had a brilliant start to the season, and was one of the most consistent performers in the euro qualifiers. IMO, he should be given a chance in the centre- christ knows we've nothing else there
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gary
[B]I find that a very blinkered view. OK, KK will never be a world beater, but he has been quite consistent for Ireland (pls, no-one say consistently crap, because that is total BS). Agaisnt Russia he was outstanding, in the World Cup, he was one of our stars.
I would go as far as to say that KK played good in about 10-15% of his games for Ireland, to say he had a good WC must be a joke, it is a toss up against Harte to say who was worse & I think that Harte wins. KK's only talent is to kick the ball & attempt to run around defenders & usually ends up running into them(Cameroon WC). If we persist with Kilbane when we have definate talent in Miller & A.Reid, plus Kavanagh is having a great season for Cardiff. I still believe McAteer can do a job on the right, seeing that S.Reid is not addapting to the Premiership too well.
I was at the game and I thought Kilbane was average as usual. Accomodating Kilbane by playing our best player out of position is madness. Accomodating Kilbane full stop is madness.Originally posted by Conor74
You weren't at the Ireland - Russia game in Dublin I take it? The only midfielder who looked competent was Kilbane.
I take your point about Duff, but it may be a case of having to play our best 11, and given the lack of talent around at the moment Kilbane is either in that bunch or very close to it. It's a pity, because he is a limited player...
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