Quotethats good news, what happens after the wc quals when its decided to develop the ground we will be back to square one....
lets hope the fai uses the time to get another ground to play at rather than leaving it to the last minute.
FIFA has confirmed that the Irish soccer team will be allowed to use Lansdowne Road for the forthcoming World Cup campaign.
The first qualifying game is next September, and it was feared the FAI would have to take the game to the UK because FIFA will no longer allow temproary seating be used for games in Lansdowne Road.
However, a report in The Star newspaper today claims that FIFA have confirmed to them that it has no objection to the continued use of temproary seating.
more on www.rte.ie
thats good news, what happens after the wc quals when its decided to develop the ground we will be back to square one....
lets hope the fai uses the time to get another ground to play at rather than leaving it to the last minute.
I am delighted that we will playing in Ireland during the World Cup qualifiers.
But I hope that the stadium issue isn't now pushed under the carpet only to rear its ugly head in two years time at the end of the next campaign.
This could put a new emphasis on Abbotstown being developed, ie we continue to play at Lansdowne until Abbotstown gets built, then move there and whatever development is needed at Lansdowne can get the go ahead.
As you say I really hope this doesn't mean any discussions on a new stadium is quietly pushed aside.
I'm truly delighted aswell. I don't go to home games and a move to Luton would have been brilliant. But in all seriousness, Ireland must play their games in Ireland. All parties concerned have two years to get their act together. However don't put on any money that they will. BTW, what were those odds again on Ireland staying at Lansdowne?
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
The Government are expected to opt for a 50,000 all seated stadium at Lansdowne Road with the possibility of the FAI establishing their HQ and a training facility at Abbotstown. The FAI would be in favour of building all weather pitches out there and this would appear to suit Bertie.
Having been in the 55,000 seater Amsterdam ArenA when it wasn't full and lacked atmosphere, I think that 50, 000 is more than enough for both rugby and football in Ireland.
The notion of FIFA allowing temporary seating in Lansdowne Road is surely only on the basis that a permenant solution is being developed?
Either way it looks likely that the games will be staged in Ireland. GAA pundit and former player Pat Spillane made some positive comments on the Croke Park issue at the Sports Personality of the Year Awards before a large audience of concerned parties.
Ireland v France in Croke Park would be an historic occassion!
Last edited by Peadar; 06/01/2004 at 11:10 AM.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
Apparently according to Des Cahill...Fran Rooney said fifa are not against us using lansdowne providing their is committments put in place for further on down the road.
anyway..its good they are to be played in lansdowne
Bring back the plank
I'm not sure this is good news for the long term. It means the stadium issue will probably be pushed aside for now and there's less chance we'll end up playing in Croker too. For the new plan to go ahead they have to knock Lansedown down don't they?
I don't think this is the case Slash/Ed.
From what i understand, we've only been allowed to proceed with the bucket seats because there are definite plans in place.
I think the redevelopment of Landsdowne will be pushed through, so there will be a time when we have to find an alternative, hopefully all parties involved in making those decisions will have more foresight than has been shown recently.
This will give another two years or so for the GAA to open up Croke Park though so I would think there's more chance of playing there when Lansdowne is being done up.Originally posted by Slash/ED
I'm not sure this is good news for the long term. It means the stadium issue will probably be pushed aside for now and there's less chance we'll end up playing in Croker too. For the new plan to go ahead they have to knock Lansedown down don't they?
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Bucket seats should only be allowed if there are concrete plans to put the stadium issue to bed. I don't want to see Ireland play abroad, but if it needs FIFA waving a big stick then so be it. Hope this opportunity is not lost.Originally posted by tiktok
I think the redevelopment of Landsdowne will be pushed through, so there will be a time when we have to find an alternative, hopefully all parties involved in making those decisions will have more foresight than has been shown recently.
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
Puts less pressure on them to open it though, it had looked like we'd have it by April.Originally posted by Schumi
This will give another two years or so for the GAA to open up Croke Park though so I would think there's more chance of playing there when Lansdowne is being done up.
Anyway lads, look at this, claims and counter claims.
http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstor...&viewstory=yes
This is really becoming a farce.
absolutelyOriginally posted by Slash/ED
This is really becoming a farce.
Odds now that the govt will continue to delay any decision hoping the GAA bail them out.
Was interesting to see the FAI put pressure on the govt for a decision recently & even the IRFU jumped in claiming they needed a better stadium to increase revenue.
IMO the FAI & the IRFU should continue to pressurise the govt on an organised basis now.
Spot on. Its turning into a joke.Originally posted by pete
Odds now that the govt will continue to delay any decision hoping the GAA bail them out.
Was interesting to see the FAI put pressure on the govt for a decision recently & even the IRFU jumped in claiming they needed a better stadium to increase revenue.
IMO the FAI & the IRFU should continue to pressurise the govt on an organised basis now.
IMO, best approach would be IRFU and FAI to approach the GAA asking for permission to use Croke park for a limited timeframe- e.g. 3 years, during which time a new stadium could be built/ landsdowne rebuilt. Surely the land landsdowne road is on is worth a mint?!
So:
1. Approach GAA to use Croker for 3 years, thereby making it easier for GAA hardliners to take "It won't be forever."
2. Sell Landsdowne for development
3. Play in Croker while building a new stadium somewhere like Abbotstown using governemnt grants and the revenue from selling Landsdowne.
simple
The only thing wrong with that Éanna is that lansdowne is so accessible and there is always a great buzz in the pubs before and after the games...that will be lost in abbotstown as we will all just sit in a traffic jam for hours before and hours after..
anyways if it meant getting a new stadium I would gladly give that up..but Lansdowne is my preference
Bring back the plank
It said in the indo today:
that wherever the stadium is built that Abbotstown could still hold the "FAI's administrative and technical headquarters, as well as a stadium ... capable of accommodating 10-15,000 spectators.
... Rooney has hinted to the government that, aside from underage and ladies internationals, Eircom League clubs may also use the stadium for European matches, exhibition games, or even as tenants should a merger take place down the line."
If the government is goung to build an eircom league sized stadium would it not be more sensable to build it for an eircom league team to use, instead of in Abbottstown?
Is there any reason why this stadium for underage / ladies internations could not be built for example in Tallaght. It would save the govenment some money because Rovers could contribute the land and meet the running costs of the statium. It would have obvious benefits for Rovers and the stadium would be used more often and located in a populated area with transport links (including a Luas), as opposed to Abbottstown.
I only picked Rovers as an example, but if the government is going to build a stadium of that size, there are plenty of clubs in soccer and other sports who would be happy to use it. Building it in Abbottstown seems a bit of a waste.
No.Originally posted by Bald Student
Is there any reason why this stadium for underage / ladies internations could not be built for example in Tallaght. It would save the govenment some money because Rovers could contribute the land and meet the running costs of the statium. It would have obvious benefits for Rovers and the stadium would be used more often and located in a populated area with transport links (including a Luas), as opposed to Abbottstown.
10-15k stadium in Abbotstown would be a waste.
Not really. Any viable national stadium would need to be at least 30,000 all seated. It would cost Rovers more to open the stadium than they'd generate in gate receipts. I think the suggestion was more along the lines of if an EL team eventually could get crowds of 20,000+.Originally posted by Bald Student
It would have obvious benefits for Rovers...
You can't spell failure without FAI
i don't agree it'd need to be 30,000. we're not talking about a stadium to host full internationals here, more Bertie's face saving excercise. better off pumping the money into Tllaght as was suggested and doing that job properly in an area that is well serviced in terms of infrastructure and easy to get to, unlike Abbottstown.
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