Who will win the 1st division

**Black and White** · 21/05/2009, 7:43 AM

Originally Posted by shep

I think UCD will win it,with a real scramble between Shels Fingal and Waterford for the chance to play the premier losers.

For the last 4 years now the 1st Division its been real competitive and enthralling(and heartbreaking) for the fans involved.Part of me would like to see Shels go up.

I would like to see shels go up too, because they would bring a big crowd to Oriel, add to the atmosphere, other 3 clubs wont have much away support, thats why I want teams liek Bray or Galway to go down more than Drogheda, I like the atmosphere at grounds where teams have a good support.

**Blue-Army** · 22/05/2009, 9:17 PM

Our problem is that we have only 16/17 in our squad. We've only had 4 subs on a few occasions this year.
We'll win the league if we can bring in a few players in July... Otherwise, I think we'll just miss out.

Some win tonight btw. 4-1 in Fingal!!!

**Lamper.sffc** · 22/05/2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Blue-Army

Our problem is that we have only 16/17 in our squad. We've only had 4 subs on a few occasions this year.
We'll win the league if we can bring in a few players in July... Otherwise, I think we'll just miss out.

Some win tonight btw. 4-1 in Fingal!!!

Fair play, yous where well worth the 4-1 scoreline no arguments there. Best team i have seen so far this season are waterford. How bad where we tonight? terrible stuff.

**pineapple stu** · 23/05/2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Blue-Army

We'll win the league if we can bring in a few players in July

Can you afford to do that? Would have thought it'd be strange to start out the season with 17 players when you could afford a couple more.

**CSFShels** · 23/05/2009, 12:22 PM

And they certainly haven't had unexpected extra income from gate receipts. Maybe the 3 sponsorship I dunno.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 23/05/2009, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Fair play, yous where well worth the 4-1 scoreline no arguments there. Best team i have seen so far this season are waterford. How bad where we tonight? terrible stuff.

Surely questions have to be asked about the manager. All you need is a slightly above average to get your players play close to their best, which would be enough to win the league.

**blue til i die** · 23/05/2009, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

And they certainly haven't had unexpected extra income from gate receipts. Maybe the 3 sponsorship I dunno.

But maybe our expected gate receipts were really low that we're actually getting more than we had budgeted for.....

**LeixlipRed** · 23/05/2009, 7:18 PM

Originally Posted by blue til i die

But maybe our expected gate receipts were really low that we're actually getting more than we had budgeted for.....

And if you believe that I have a very long list of other assorted lies and tall tales you'll believe too

**blue til i die** · 23/05/2009, 7:30 PM

Even with our tight budget atm, i'd still expect at least 1 to come in in July.

**CSFShels** · 23/05/2009, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by blue til i die

Even with our tight budget atm, i'd still expect at least 1 to come in in July.

Doubt it'll be anyone notable though. Same with UCD. Fingal and Shels will be signing in some I'd say, last season both sides brought in a good few new players in July, it ruined some good form for Fingal, while it sent us off on a ridiculously good run. Hope the same happens this year. Although Fingal aren't having much form to ruin at the mo.

**GlasnevinRed** · 24/05/2009, 9:01 AM

With the possibilty of Madden going to Bohs and with Meenan gone aswell there's hopefully a chance for a couple of players to come in. We've been struggling a bit lately when it comes to injuries aswell.

**DeNiro** · 24/05/2009, 9:11 AM

Is it one automatic promotion, then runners-up in playoff v 2nd last in prem? If that is the way, I suspect Waterford to win it out and UCD into playoff.

**GalwayRed** · 24/05/2009, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by DeNiro

Is it one automatic promotion, then runners-up in playoff v 2nd last in prem? If that is the way, I suspect Waterford to win it out and UCD into playoff.

Winners go up automatically. Then theres a play off between 2nd and 3rd at the home ground of the 2nd placed team. Theres a playoff between the teams 8th and 9th in the premier. 8th is at home for that playoff. Then the winner of the first division play off plays the loser of the premier division play off over a 2 legged match. The winner goes up(usually).

**DeNiro** · 24/05/2009, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by GalwayRed

Winners go up automatically. Then theres a play off between 2nd and 3rd at the home ground of the 2nd placed team. Theres a playoff between the teams 8th and 9th in the premier. 8th is at home for that playoff. Then the winner of the first division play off plays the loser of the premier division play off over a 2 legged match. The winner goes up(usually).

Thanks. Heard something like that the other night, but that it was way too compilcated for the FAI to administer!

**LeixlipRed** · 24/05/2009, 10:12 AM

I dunno about the playoff between 8th and 9th in PD. Anyone?

**stann** · 24/05/2009, 10:16 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAI_Lea...ason#Play-Offs

**Lamper.sffc** · 24/05/2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Surely questions have to be asked about the manager. All you need is a slightly above average to get your players play close to their best, which would be enough to win the league.

I know its the stereotype thing to do after a bad result but yeah question will have to be raised about the managers decisions which baffle me at times. Zayed being played on the left of a so called 3 man attack.

Gaynor was up on his own, he is more suited to the left. The fact we play 4-3-3 with such a narrow pitch at home, Surely it would make more sense to play 4-4-2 and widen the game across the pitch. Spread teams out as much as possible. When we do get crosses in 9 times out of 10 we have only 1 or two in the box because one of our strikers is the one crossing.

While i do believe we would have lost this game anyway the scoreline was helped by the fact we are missing our top 3 defenders. I think any team would be in trouble if they had Maher, Byrne and Paisley missing from their defense.

**CSFShels** · 24/05/2009, 1:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

While i do believe we would have lost this game anyway the scoreline was helped by the fact we are missing our top 3 defenders. I think any team would be in trouble if they had Maher, Byrne and Paisley missing from their defense.

Haha none of the rest of us have defenders of that quality in the first place.