And now St.Pat's have Money woes...

**Dodge** · 08/01/2004, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Xlex
conflict of idea's really, when did EC say youse weren't full-time....

He never said we were full time. Basically the players train in the morning, not the night like most part –timers. Some halve full time jobs and their employers give them a few mornings off but they still have to work the hours up.

The hope is to eventually become full time but we (Pats and all other clubs) can’t afford it yet

**pete** · 08/01/2004, 1:37 PM

I would be dubious of Dolans footballing pedigree but he is exactly what CCFC need in the short term to enable the club to grow in the long term.

**Estar** · 08/01/2004, 1:39 PM

From what I hear Pat's are €100,000 in debt. All office staff can lose their job at anytime.
The Manager will only have 60% of last years budget for players.
In all fairness Sligo are twice as much in debt.

I'd love if Kildare County could sign Darragh Maguire or Keith Dunne on loan for a season, the jigsaw would nearly be complete for our assault on the Div 1 title.

**Dodge** · 08/01/2004, 2:51 PM

Originally posted by Cop on
Hmmmmmmmm , maybe the fans should be more loyal !!
Longford had as many (probably more) fans than Pats at the League Cup final in Inchicore - and had more fans at the FAI Cup Final --
Pats also refused to give us our fair share of the League Cup Final gate -- bad karma & all that !

Thats all crap...

**Xlex** · 08/01/2004, 3:23 PM

I definatly agree with Dodge, bad Karma my ass...

If LTFC had real concerns everyone would have heard about them... Nobody has ever mentioned anything!!! (Longfordian?)... surely it was all ticket with an representive of LTFC present and all accounted for.... St Pat's and LFTC have a great relationship.... Cop On won't tarnish that...

**Longfordian** · 08/01/2004, 5:42 PM

No we were perfectly happy with what we were given from the league cup final,m apart from the prize money being miniscule which had nothing to do with Pats. As for us cutting back, what we've done this year is not increase our budget from last year which was one of the smallest, if not the smallest in the division anyway. We dont have alot of money but we did make a small surplus on last year..There is some debt still but the wheels are in motion to counteract this..Everyone involved in the club is confident that within a year or two we will be largely debt free and hopefully running solvently from then on. The people im hearing this from are not dreamers either. We've never at any stage considered paying full time wages to players, we feel we're capable of achieving our aims with an extremely fit, committed and motivated part time squad..

**Éanna** · 08/01/2004, 6:05 PM

Originally posted by Dr.Nightdub
If you're stuck on a runaway horse, first you slow it down, then you stop it. Try stopping it dead and you'll end up on your ear.

I think that sums it up about right. Today's Sun says that Bosco Collins and all backroom staff have been put on protective notice. Simple fact of the matter is that any club having financial problems reflects badly on the whole league, and none of us should enjoy each others woes. Its happened all of us at one time or another.

**bohs til i die** · 08/01/2004, 7:02 PM

Originally posted by wws
bohs paid more money than they had on wages

and pats have a mix of full and part time players (as they always had)

Bohs did have a very bad year [2002-03] financially but the financial difficulties arising from that are very near to being sorted out.

One of the main reasons behind our recent troubles was the club structure. That has all changed with a new 10 person board of directors about to be elected. 8 of the 10 positions have been filled unoppossed already, with the final Two positions to be voted upon at the AGM in 2 weeks.

Going forward we will be a hugely improved club in the off the field area with far more accountability and a far better administered club from top to bottom.

Bohs are very much committed to the full time set up. We have released several young players who were on full time contracts which expired as well as not re-newing Liam O'Brien's contract.

Every effort has been made to put us on a sound financial footing and I am of the opinion that a few other clubs see our membership structure as a way forward.