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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Define "cheating"?
    Definition probobly best left to those throwing around the accusation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Definition probobly best left to those throwing around the accusation.
    You do talk some rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Define "cheating"?
    A quick check turned up, "A deception for profit to yourself," but no one's accusing Bohs of making a profit, so perhaps they aren't cheating after all.
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    I remember recently when the Bohs accounts were revealed online that someone worked out that they had very well paid bar staff. The fact they these would seem to be actually players makes a lot of sense now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    Ian Rossiter is the best paid kitman in the world.
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    So are people here saying that Derry and Rovers only beat a crowd of groundsmen,barmen and coaches in the past two weeks?
    So if you think Bohs are big read this. http://www.astronomy.ie/perpespective.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Bohs are not cheats and have never been found to cheat. Rovers were found to submit false accounts. These are facts, if you can prove Bohemian FC has cheated then do so otherwise it is pointless speculation. accounts are done on an annualised basis (Bi annual if hoops) and as such one off payments (as at Pats and many other clubs) can make a big difference. Accordingly please wait until the end of the season before making allegations.
    Attempts to stifle this debate by way of " wait and see" comments or mud-slinging at other clubs wont wash.

    The simple reality is that the management of Bohemian FC have taken the club to the brink of disaster through incredible ineptitude, as the multitudes cheered them on further.

    While the creative accounting allegations are simply allegations (and very plausible based on the track record), no one has suggested any resonable explanation as to why Bohs splashed out on significantly on Keegan, Shelley, Ndo, Gregg and Carey at a time when it must have been blatantly obvious that it would almost certainly take them well past the 65% mark.

    Cheating or just irresponsible? i

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    this great country of ours has been founded on creative accounting and is a national pastime but when the wife finds you in a compromising position with the maid now thats cheating
    but back to the topic whos maid was bohs shagging
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by passerrby View Post
    but back to the topic whos maid was bohs shagging
    Sean Connor.

    Wait a minute, that one was a misunderstanding, it was only dinner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    I really doubt that the LOI rule book mentions Danninger or any other deal.The High court found in connection with a small piece of Dalymount not the whole ground, but hey dont let the facts get in the way...
    Eh the land deal with albion involved a substantial piece of land, not the whole ground but the deal was/is worth €1,300,000 to the club, with the majority of that money already received (and spent).

    By spending over 65% of the income on wages we are breaking the rules (which is cheating). If we improve our income and reduce expenditure (and not just massage the figures in the accounts) so that our 12 month accounts show us under 65% then we are not breaking the rules.

    We will know in July what the situation is if/when players are let leave and not replaced.

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    Lads, I don't see what the big deal is, if Bohs haven't been cheating, then there's no problem. If Bohs have been cheating and paying €5000 a week for Jason Byrne to pull pints, they'll be over the salary cap and will go into administration soon enough, they'll get their 10 point deduction, plus the extra penalties depending on how much of their debt they pay off, and probably end up in the same situation Drogheda are in this season.

    If anyone should be angry with the situation, it's the Bohs supporters, not us.

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    I'll be angry if they're allowed to go into administration without penalty, but my point is, there's no benefit to the club if they are fobbing off the FAI, because they will go bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candystripe View Post
    So are people here saying that Derry and Rovers only beat a crowd of groundsmen,barmen and coaches in the past two weeks?


    Bohs' team, yesterday. Including new janitor, Paul Keegan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeO View Post
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    Meant to say Mark, Ian is his brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peadar1987 View Post
    I'll be angry if they're allowed to go into administration without penalty
    Bohs won't go into administration.

    I take your point on the fact that Bohs will get what's coming to them, but the thing is that another club will come along and spend silly money (it was Shels first, then Cork, then Drogheda, now Bohs...). Shels getting what was coming to them didn't mean that Bray suddenly reached a position they deserve. Granted, the recession may sort that to an extent, but overspending isn't a problem you can cure by having one team go belly up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Bohs won't go into administration.

    I take your point on the fact that Bohs will get what's coming to them, but the thing is that another club will come along and spend silly money (it was Shels first, then Cork, then Drogheda, now Bohs...). Shels getting what was coming to them didn't mean that Bray suddenly reached a position they deserve. Granted, the recession may sort that to an extent, but overspending isn't a problem you can cure by having one team go belly up.
    This is true, there will always be someone who thinks if they throw enough money at a team, they will make it to the big time. It was rovers in the 80's and its been all the clubs listed above since then (currently us unfortunately). When we fail, someone else will decide that if they spend a few quid more on better players, they will get more fans in, generate more money, make it through to the champions league group stages and this time next year we'll be millionaires (Rodney)

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    And you've also clubs like Galway, Harps and Sligo who are spending silly money trying just to reach mid-table for some bizarre reason, which pushes the sensible clubs down even further.

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    If these rumours are true, then I say well done Bohs for having the foresight to help their players developer alternative careers outside football. A footballer's career is short and it wont be long before some of these players are on the football scrapheap. It is great to see a club who have such genuine long term concern for their current players welfare.

    I wonder is there a FAS grant or something the club could apply for to help fund this type of career cross-training activities. The government and FAI and PFAI should really be doing more to support this kind of outside the box thinking, especially in these perilious economic times.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Bohs won't go into administration.

    I take your point on the fact that Bohs will get what's coming to them, but the thing is that another club will come along and spend silly money (it was Shels first, then Cork, then Drogheda, now Bohs...). Shels getting what was coming to them didn't mean that Bray suddenly reached a position they deserve. Granted, the recession may sort that to an extent, but overspending isn't a problem you can cure by having one team go belly up.
    just for the record, it was shels, then drogs, then us and then Bohs

    when we won the league we didnt overspend to do it

    we finished 5th when we tried to buy the league

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