Petition to wind up: Cork City Investment FC Ltd

**Rovers fan** · 27/07/2009, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

I never said anything to the contrary but it's still CCFC and they still need to be punished, they can't play that "it wasn't us" card that Rovers fans do.

Oh I know they can't, and it probably was the right decision but I still feel very sorry for the genuine fans as I know they couldn't have done feck all to save their club which is the worst part. There's a difference too between themselves and shams, because shams are a members club, so they could have nobody to blame but themselves if they were to go out of business.

It's still hard to believe that cork had such a high wage bill just after coming out of examinership. Like, is TC simple or something?!

**Rovers Maniac** · 27/07/2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers fan

But there was nothing the true fans could do about it. The examiner appointed coughlan and coughlan paid completely unrealistic wages. I feel sorry for the fans, because they couldn't really have done anything about it.

To be honest i may be totally wrong but when the biggest sin Cork City fans made was not organising themselves to take control of their club coming out of examinership. The examiner had to give the club to somebody to run, and there was not a que waiting to take it over, TC passed all the FAI little tests ad was allowed to take control. But my issue was why did Foras not even attempt to take control?! When we looked doomed in the 80's we organised ourselves, Shams fans have done it as well it nearly an exact replica of the Cork situation a few years ago.

I also heard nobody complain about signings of players such as Faz and O'Donnell when they were made even though they already had looking at an expensive team. Instead TC seemed to be applauded instead of queried, to me nobody comes out of this as smelling of roses.

**Rovers fan** · 27/07/2009, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

To be honest i may be totally wrong but when the biggest sin Cork City fans made was not organising themselves to take control of their club coming out of examinership.

Afaik, potential ivestors had to show they had access to 500k. Sure you know how hard it was for ourselves to raise approx 50k when we were on the brink....

**Lamper.sffc** · 28/07/2009, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

I never said anything to the contrary but it's still CCFC and they still need to be punished, they can't play that "it wasn't us" card that Rovers fans do.

Kettle, pot and black.

**micls** · 28/07/2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Shams fans have done it as well it nearly an exact replica of the Cork situation a few years ago.

No it wasn't. Rovers had the 400 club up and running and a member matching whatever they raised(a loan I think).

We didnt take over the club because we didnt have the money. Coughlan came in with 500k for the examiner in the bank and the examiner said yes.

There was no hope of us raising similar in a few weeks.

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

I also heard nobody complain about signings of players such as Faz and O'Donnell when they were made even though they already had looking at an expensive team. Instead TC seemed to be applauded instead of queried, to me nobody comes out of this as smelling of roses.

Absolute rubbish

**LukeO** · 28/07/2009, 1:28 AM

Originally Posted by Conroy

Table as out Friday?

Team Pts
1 Bohemians 42
2 Shamrock Rovers 38
3 Derry City 31
4 Dundalk 26
5 Galway United 25
6 Sligo Rovers 20
7 Drogheda United 19
8 Bray Wanderers 18
9 St Patrick's 17

That's wrong, Drogheda beat Cork too.
Pld Pts
Bohemians 19 42
Shamrock Rovers 19 38
Derry City 18 31
Dundalk 19 26
Galway United 19 25
Sligo Rovers 18 20
Bray Wanderers 19 18
St Patrick’s Athletic 18 17
Drogheda United 19 16

I'd just like to add that I'm genuinely gutted for Cork City and all their supporters. This is an absolute tragedy that should never have happened.

**Mr A** · 28/07/2009, 8:18 AM

Mad quote from TC in the Irish Times:

The court was told Coughlan has put around €700,000 of his own money into City since taking over towards the end of last year and there is a feeling in some quarters he was not nearly as ruthless with the club’s cost base at that point as he needed to be.

So he put 700k in and yet never managed to pay any tax? Yeah right.

**Mr A** · 28/07/2009, 8:20 AM

Incidentally, while the rules may say that all results are null and void I still believe the fairest thing would be to retain the first two series of results and discard everything since.

**pineapple stu** · 28/07/2009, 8:33 AM

Originally Posted by brianw82

UCD are more like the cockroach of the LOI. They'll still be there after nuclear armageddon.

Pfft. You mean your club didn't budget for nuclear armageddon? Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Boo_Boy

Who the hell were they paying a 500 euro goal bonus to? The keeper?

Maybe the players who score the goals?

**razor** · 28/07/2009, 8:37 AM

Originally Posted by Dunny

What about ST holders? Will they get anything back?

I'm sitting here waiting patiently

I hope the cheque is in the post.

**placid casual** · 28/07/2009, 9:01 AM

If Cork fans want a football team in their city they will get together and put a team together with their own money.
If they dont want to do that then there will be no club in cork and we all move on.
simple.

**BohDiddley** · 28/07/2009, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by brianw82

UCD are more like the cockroach of the LOI. They'll still be there after nuclear armageddon.

Brilliantly put.

If there's any chance left at all, the very best of luck to Cork City.

**Schumi** · 28/07/2009, 9:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rovers fan

It's still hard to believe that cork had such a high wage bill just after coming out of examinership. Like, is TC simple or something?!

Either that or he's an evil genius with a plan for world domination that none of us can see yet.

Originally Posted by Mr A

Incidentally, while the rules may say that all results are null and void I still believe the fairest thing would be to retain the first two series of results and discard everything since.

Agreed, it's the same for everyone and the table gets messed around a lot less.

**The Betting Man** · 28/07/2009, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by EnglishSource

Maybe Cork fans will now admit that Tom Coughlan-esque characters, like Kilcoyne, aren't heros?

Trust me Kilcoyne is a hero

**awec** · 28/07/2009, 12:06 PM

It's sad news when any football club gets wound up. For all those Cork fans, what are they going to do now?

Is it a definite that they're to go then?

**Hairy Bowsie** · 28/07/2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Kettle, pot and black.

If you weren't so keen on churning out little internet soundbytes, you'd realise the idiocy of your post. Shels had no reason to blame previous managment or essentially Ollie Byrne, because we've been held accountable for everything he did and are still paying for it.

**John83** · 28/07/2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by awec

It's sad news when any football club gets wound up. For all those Cork fans, what are they going to do now?

Is it a definite that they're to go then?

If they can raise about a quarter of a million by Friday, they'll limp on. No one really expects them to do so, and the consensus seems to be that if they did, they'll only be back in trouble by the next wage bill.

The likelyhood is that FORAS, the Cork fans' trust, will set up a replacement club to compete in the A Championship.

**pineapple stu** · 28/07/2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by John83

they'll only be back in trouble by the next wage bill.

Which is, ooh - Friday. A record even for a LoI side?

**Mr_Parker** · 28/07/2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by John83

If they can raise about a quarter of a million by Friday, they'll limp on. No one really expects them to do so, and the consensus seems to be that if they did, they'll only be back in trouble by the next wage bill.

Without reading back over everything again, can they be put into Administration again if they don't raise the money or would they be folded immediately?