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    Quote Originally Posted by joey4ireland View Post
    Does anyone know where on the net I can check whether or not I'm on the register to vote?
    REGISTER OF ELECTORS

    A surprisingly efficient service.
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey4ireland View Post
    Does anyone know where on the net I can check whether or not I'm on the register to vote?
    http://www.registertovote.ie/index.p...gister-to-vote

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    just home, so just seeing that westmeath is now all of a sudden part of the northwest - WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thats a complete joke, sure we are nearer to Dublin than to the rednecks up in Donegal.

    Anyway all are voting for Libertas in my family household, Ganley is the only man who talks sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Anyway all are voting for Libertas in my family household, Ganley is the only man who talks sense
    Be sure to apply for a work permit when you want to head back to London then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    Be sure to apply for a work permit when you want to head back to London then.
    because ff, fg, lab, and the rest are great
    oh i love been irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt
    Anyway all are voting for Libertas in my family household, Ganley is the only man who talks sense
    He makes a change from the tired other candidates, who aren't going to represent their constituents, but will merely follow the party leader's line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    because ff, fg, lab, and the rest are great
    oh i love been irish
    All he did was state Libertas policy. Work permits for EU members who want to work in other countries, and no benefits even if they've been paying their social insurance. I suppose you could strike, if it wasn't also Libertas policy to encourage strike breaking. That's before you get on to the ultra right wing catholic fundamentalist candidates like Simmons. But sure at least they're not FF/FG/ Labour
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    Unfortunately, I saw a Libertas poster the other day and I think they could be rather effective in getting votes. It basically said: "Tired of that shower? - Vote Libertas".

    I'm a bit wary of voting for Nessa Childers. All her leaflets drone on and on about her dad, nothing much about her in it and I always complain about dynasty politicians.
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    Libertas explain Blue Card System

    First thing we must do is recognise a problem and then think how to deal with it calmly and as fairly to all as possible. Libertas will introduce a blue card system to prevent abuse of the Irish welfare system, but which will not interfere with EU freedom to travel or intergovernmental agreements such as that facilitating travel between Britain and Ireland.

    Since May 2004 , half a million immigrants from new EU accession states have come to work in Ireland.

    According to the CSO figures, 90pc of new jobs in 2007 went to non-Irish nationals.

    The latest welfare figures show 29,000 PPS number have been given to non-Irish nationals in Ireland since the start of 2009.

    Yet in the last year, over 100,000 people in Leinster alone have lost their jobs.

    What to do? Taking these facts into consideration, Libertas will look at a number of options to control disruption of the labour market, to protect all workers, stop job displacement (a la Irish Ferries) and prevent a race to the bottom in regard to conditions.

    First thing Libertas shall do is oppose the accession of Turkey to the EU.

    The free movement of 80 million poverty-stricken Turkish citizens into the EU would cause huge damage to Irish workers, and to the CAP payments for farmers.

    Turkey also has a very poor human rights record -- but Turkish accession is fully supported by FF, FG and Labour.

    A vote for Libertas is a thumbs up for friendship, free-travel and free-trade throughout the EU.
    So Libertas support free trade & travle in the EU but they want to restrict the rights of workers across the EU.So we will restrict working rights of Eastern European (basically poor Europeans) but have a different set of rules for Irish going to the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas
    The free movement of 80 million poverty-stricken Turkish citizens into the EU would cause huge damage to Irish workers, and to the CAP payments for farmers.....

    A vote for Libertas is a thumbs up for friendship, free-travel and free-trade throughout the EU.....
    ....And poverty for those outside it.

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    I almost missed the acertain that everyone in Turkey lives in poverty. We need a sensible debate on Turkey not a pathetic effort like that.

    Once again Libertas showing their true colours by choosing another scaremongering policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    I almost missed the acertain that everyone in Turkey lives in poverty. We need a sensible debate on Turkey not a pathetic effort like that.

    Once again Libertas showing their true colours by choosing another scaremongering policy.
    Absolutely. Libertas even managed to find an extra nine or ten million Turks for that stat. Nothing about Turkey having one of the fastest growing economies of the noughties anywhere either.

    I personally have some grave reservations about Turkey becoming a full member of the EU. But as Pete says ...that's for a sensible debate and one where people try and stick to the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    but they want to restrict the rights of workers across the EU.
    Not just on movement, but on individual workers rights within the country too. People would want to face up to who he is, and what views he really represents before voting for him and his band just because they're "different".

    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    I'm a bit wary of voting for Nessa Childers. All her leaflets drone on and on about her dad, nothing much about her in it and I always complain about dynasty politicians.
    It's a bit different though, as she isn't trying to get her old mans seat on a sympathy vote. imo the leaflets are an appeal to the FF floaters that can't bring themselves to vote FG. Time will tell whether that'll be effective.
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    Political nepotism, another one of this country's most embarrassing traits.

    It basically says to the voter "I know you're too thick to understand policies or ideologies, or basically politics in general, but sure me da/uncle/brother was a grand fella and ye voted for him and I'm related to him, so how could ye not vote for me too?".

    Yet another example of knuckledragging tribalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Political nepotism, another one of this country's most embarrassing traits.
    Slightly off topic but could only laugh when heard 70 year old Maurice Ahern (FF Dublin Central by election candidate) is running on his younger brothers (Bertie) legacy.
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    If people didn't vote for them on that basis that campaigning wouldn't be effective. Unfortunately it largely does work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    If people didn't vote for them on that basis that campaigning wouldn't be effective. Unfortunately it largely does work.
    "To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem."

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    A very good debate with the Dublin candidates on Today with Pat Kenny is now available on RTÉ Player.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/elections/pla...50295,real,209
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    Ganley.

    Will be voting for Ganley.
    Harkin was in Terryland a few weeks ago at the Galway Utd St.Pats game.She was told in no uncertain terms by 2 random guys to sit down when she went around the main stand handing out flyers DURING THE MATCH,was funny.Didnt think they were allowed canvas inside LOI grounds.A good few candidates were around the Volvo Ocean Race Village on Sunday and Monday,there was more of their flyers on the ground then in ppls hands though.
    My point being that theres alot of apathy to these elections and id say turnout wont be higher then 30-40%.

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    if libertas are voted in does that mean irish will no longer have free movement within EU. how about if I leave this ****ty country beforehand, would it still apply?
    Last edited by irishultra; 26/05/2009 at 6:13 PM.

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