Best LOI games in Europe

**oriel** · 30/04/2009, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by mandrake

i knew it wouldnt be long til a dundalk head stuck on a comment about this...and history and all that blah blah...
go on then impress us...!!

Ok here`s another one, FC Zurich 1 Dundalk 2 - 1963 European Cup, first Irish team to win an away game in Europe.

Blah blah

**dcfcsteve** · 30/04/2009, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

Why? You put away an inferior side with a comfortable win. Sure they were great goals but Gretna were a poor team in a league that has 2 big clubs.

It's easy to say now in hindsight that we put away an inferior team, but let's not forget that not a single soul outside of Ireland thought we'd beat Gretna at the time. There were also many within Ireland who didn't fancy our chances either - including the bookies, who rarely get things wrong. Myself and a fair few Derry fans made some good money out of them that night, and I rarely ever gamble. You need only look at my signature to see the kind of expectations that existed for us to lose.

So not only was it a game that most people thought we wouldn't win, we then won in the most outrageous fashion, with a set of goals that were unmatched in any other second-half performance by any team in Europe that year. Plus it was the biggest away win ever recorded by an Irish team in Europe. For all those reaosns, it was a big thing.

Originally Posted by gspain

Your win over Gothenborg was far far more impressive.

As a result - yes. As a footbaling display - no chance.

P.S. Which win over Gothenborg are you referring to....?

**Longfordian** · 30/04/2009, 1:42 PM

We've certainly had some memorable nights in Europe too, ahem. Though I guess looking back our 1-1 draw with Litex Lovech was a good result, we had a chance to go 1-0 up in the last minute or two over there too.

**gspain** · 30/04/2009, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

It's easy to say now in hindsight that we put away an inferior team, but let's not forget that not a single soul outside of Ireland thought we'd beat Gretna at the time. There were also many within Ireland who didn't fancy our chances either - including the bookies, who rarely get things wrong. Myself and a fair few Derry fans made some good money out of them that night, and I rarely ever gamble. You need only look at my signature to see the kind of expectations that existed for us to lose.

So not only was it a game that most people thought we wouldn't win, we then won in the most outrageous fashion, with a set of goals that were unmatched in any other second-half performance by any team in Europe that year. Plus it was the biggest away win ever recorded by an Irish team in Europe. For all those reaosns, it was a big thing.

As a result - yes. As a footbaling display - no chance.

P.S. Which win over Gothenborg are you referring to....?

It is also a record home defeat for Scottish sides in Europe. However I remember the draw and fervently hoping you'd get Gretna who were by far the weakest team you could have got. Sure the goals were great but you still have to consider the opposition. Shamrock Rovers ****ed on Fram in 1982 (4-0 & 3-0) but they wouldn't consider it an all time great result.

Take your pick on which 1-0 win over Gothenborg - I meant the tie and beating them home and away was really impressive. I imagine you were far longer odds to win in Gothenborg than you were to win in Motherwell.

garyderry · 30/04/2009, 3:10 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

It is also a record home defeat for Scottish sides in Europe. However I remember the draw and fervently hoping you'd get Gretna who were by far the weakest team you could have got. Sure the goals were great but you still have to consider the opposition. Shamrock Rovers ****ed on Fram in 1982 (4-0 & 3-0) but they wouldn't consider it an all time great result.

Take your pick on which 1-0 win over Gothenborg - I meant the tie and beating them home and away was really impressive. I imagine you were far longer odds to win in Gothenborg than you were to win in Motherwell.

10-1 in Gotenberg
8-1 at home to Gotenberg
and 5-1 away to Gretna

Great odds all the same, especially when you had bet on them all

**Martinho II** · 30/04/2009, 7:34 PM

cork city galatarasay match in 1993 is that the same tudgay thats still at blackburn??

**Umberside** · 30/04/2009, 8:21 PM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

cork city galatarasay match in 1993 is that the same tudgay thats still at blackburn??

Yeah same one

**Sheridan** · 30/04/2009, 9:18 PM

I can't believe people are citing InterToto Cup games...

**geysir** · 01/05/2009, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by oriel

Ok here`s another one, FC Zurich 1 Dundalk 2 - 1963 European Cup, first Irish team to win an away game in Europe.

Blah blah

Dundalk beat Zurich in the home leg, not the away one.
But still were the first LOI club to win a European Cup tie

I haven't seen a few of the games already mentioned but they would have to very good just to come close to Shels V Split.

I would have swapped all Euro glory for Drogheda to knock out Kiev.

**bennocelt** · 01/05/2009, 7:17 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

It's easy to say now in hindsight that we put away an inferior team, but let's not forget that not a single soul outside of Ireland thought we'd beat Gretna at the time. There were also many within Ireland who didn't fancy our chances either - including the bookies, who rarely get things wrong. Myself and a fair few Derry fans made some good money out of them that night, and I rarely ever gamble. You need only look at my signature to see the kind of expectations that existed for us to lose.

Yeah thats true
many , myself included, made a nice tidy profit betting for Derry in both legs of this tie. It wasnt such a shock, the only shock in it was that Derry scored so many goals

**gspain** · 01/05/2009, 8:09 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

Dundalk beat Zurich in the home leg, not the away one.
But still were the first LOI club to win a European Cup tie

I haven't seen a few of the games already mentioned but they would have to very good just to come close to Shels V Split.

I would have swapped all Euro glory for Drogheda to knock out Kiev.

No Dundalk won the away leg 2-1 Cross and Hasty scored. They lost the home leg 3-0.

**seand** · 01/05/2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by gspain

No Dundalk won the away leg 2-1 Cross and Hasty scored. They lost the home leg 3-0.

Hit the crossbar when 2-0 up in the away leg too!

**spongebob** · 01/05/2009, 12:12 PM

An often overlooked result was Derry beating Locomotive Sofia 1-0 in the Brandywell.

**geysir** · 01/05/2009, 1:23 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

No Dundalk won the away leg 2-1 Cross and Hasty scored. They lost the home leg 3-0.

My mistake you're right about the away leg.

I don't think they played the home leg at Oriel.

**gspain** · 01/05/2009, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

My mistake you're right about the away leg.

I don't think they played the home leg at Oriel.

Dalymount if I remember correctly but definitely Dublin anyway.

**DaveyCakes** · 01/05/2009, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

I can't believe people are citing InterToto Cup games...

Why not? The thread title is "Best LOI games in Europe", it was a great game....

**HarpoJoyce** · 01/05/2009, 5:27 PM

Originally Posted by DaveyCakes

Why not? The thread title is "Best LOI games in Europe", it was a great game....

Sheridan may be referring to the fact that UEFA awarded zero (0) points to InterToTo games. It was considered a qualifier to Europe much the same as domestic football. It started in the 1960's as a private tournament amongst Central European clubs to continue football bets for bookmakers through the summer. Hence it's 'Lottery' style logo.
It was taken over by UEFA and offered as compensation to countries who had lost their Champions League place in the mid-1990's (1995 or 1996 definite time). LoI were one of a number of clubs who did not compete in the CL for a number of years.
UEFA quantified their RESPECT towards the competetion by the co-eff. points it awarded every single game.

Athlone Town 1983. versus Standard Liege. 2-3 (H), 3-8(A). Five goals in the European Cup campaign. Wasn't bettered for over a decade.
And an avalanche of goals to the desert that was to follow.

The three Dublin sides in 1984 was probably the best performance where everyone were knocked out. Linfield 0-0 Shamrock(Wed?), UCD 0-0 Everton (Wed.) and Bohemian 3-2 G. Rangers (Tues) would be considered one of the better legged results.

Similar to CL Cork City 2-1 Cwybran (late winner) and Shels 3-1 Karpaty L'vov. But sides overcame the opposition and played a more established team as the prize in the next round. Galatasaray and Panathinaikos respectively.

**JC_GUFC** · 01/05/2009, 5:48 PM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Yeah thats true
many , myself included, made a nice tidy profit betting for Derry in both legs of this tie. It wasnt such a shock, the only shock in it was that Derry scored so many goals

Derry didn't win the home leg! I remember looking at the game and thinking Derry would be about 2/1 or 9/4 over there - when I saw 5/1 I couldn't believe it! I tried to get a price on Derry to qualify but wasn't quoted one.

I ended up only having something like �25 @5/1. I did however have an each way bet on sunbed Kelly to score 1st at 40s - popped up with the 2nd so I actually won more on that bet than the match betting!

It's great that everyone's coming up with all these memorable games but don't forget there's only one LOI team with a 100% record in Europe!

**HarpoJoyce** · 01/05/2009, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

Derry didn't win the home leg! I remember looking at the game and thinking Derry would be about 2/1 or 9/4 over there - when I saw 5/1 I couldn't believe it! I tried to get a price on Derry to qualify but wasn't quoted one.

I ended up only having something like �25 @5/1. I did however have an each way bet on sunbed Kelly to score 1st at 40s - popped up with the 2nd so I actually won more on that bet than the match betting!

It's great that everyone's coming up with all these memorable games but don't forget there's only one LOI team with a 100% record in Europe!

Congrats.
You played one game in Connemara. Maybe Lygnby (sp?). I listened to the second half on Radio na Gaeltachta (sp?).

**Billy Lord** · 02/05/2009, 1:03 AM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

I wouldn't describe Luxembourg, Iceland or Poland as real powerhouses of European football...

If you want to get picky, Ireland would be in there too as being something less than a powerhouse. Besides, the first two were emphatic wins (very rare), while the latter is regarded as Polish football's worst ever result in Europe.