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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post
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    Sligo Rovers has announced that match tickets for their Europa League game in July will go on sale this week, but warned that there may not be enough tickets to meet the demand.

    Limited ground capacity to increase demand for tickets

    UEFA criteria for hosting the game in the Showgrounds do not permit standing spectators in the ground, which means that capacity is limited to the two stands. According to Sligo Rovers Chairman Dermot Kelly ‘The reality is that the attendance for the Europa League game is restricted to 2,700, and we are left with the responsibility of issuing the tickets in as fair and equitable manner as possible.’

    Accordingly the Management Committee has decided to release the tickets for sale on a phased basis; The first series of tickets will shortly be offered for sale to shareholders, season ticket holders, 400 club members and Johnny Chadda Fund Members.

    The Chairman confirmed that the balance of the tickets will then be placed on sale to other supporters at the Derry City game on Friday 5th June. In the unlikely event of tickets being available after this date, they will be placed in the usual outlets around the town and county.

    ‘Given that the draw is on June 22nd in Geneva, and our games will be played on July 2nd and 9th, the limited time to make travel arrangements will impose a serious financial burden on the club. However we believe every supporter should have a chance of seeing Sligo Rovers play in Europe, and especially in the current economic climate, we decided it was only fair to our supporters to set a charge for the European game as close as possible to the regular admission price. It has been some time since European football graced the Showgrounds. Everyone wants to be there on what will be a special night for Sligo Rovers, but unfortunately we have to stay within the assigned capacity.’


    PRICES

    Adult tickets will be €20

    Students/OAP/Unwaged €15 (On presentation of ID at turnstile)

    Children under 12 €5 (Must be accompanied by an adult)

    For further information, contact the Showgrounds Office between 10.00am and 2.00pm at 071 9171212, or phone Frank Beirne at 086 1657515


    Special jersey promotion

    Jako Sports in association with Sligo Rovers are offering a very special deal to coincide with the Club’s return to European Football. Anyone presenting their Europa League Match ticket at Jako Sports will receive a 10% reduction off the price of a Rovers jersey.
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    While it may be better to do the counting when the dealing's done, certainly counting after the end of the season suits the measurement of the UEFA club co-efficient.
    There is an anticipated benefit to some clubs in the CL due to the Final match tomorrow.
    http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl...id=832313.html
    "...Competition regulations
    According to the competition regulations, the UEFA Champions League winners are entitled to a group-stage berth regardless of whether they qualify for the competition via their domestic league, but since Rome finalists Manchester United FC and FC Barcelona are already sure of their place as English and Spanish champions respectively, a vacancy has opened up. This gap will be filled by the Belgian champions, and will also benefit the titleholders in Switzerland, the Faroe Islands and Luxembourg.

    Knock-on effect
    UEFA said: "The domestic champion of the association ranked 13th in the coefficient ranking table (Belgium) will enter the competition directly in the group stage instead of the third qualifying round. The vacancy this creates in the third qualifying round will benefit the domestic champion of the association ranked 16th in the coefficient ranking table (Switzerland), who will enter the competition in the third qualifying round instead of the second. Finally, the vacancy left by Switzerland in the second qualifying round will benefit the domestic champions of the Faroe Islands and Luxembourg (positions 48 and 49 in the coefficient ranking table), who will enter the competition in the second qualifying round instead of the first."


    'Knock-on effect' is a good neutral term.
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    Although it hasn't yet been confirmed for the Europa League, it is this 'knock-on effect' which should see Derry City into EL QR2.
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    Yeah I spotted that on bert's site earlier.
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    With IRL being positioned at #35 on the Country ranking, any room made above them should put IRL into #34 and benefit the next LoI club in line. This is anticipated by kassies, but he also gives one argument why it may not happen that way.
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...eedel2009.html
    "...However, the details of not using the title holder spots in the access list are not written in the regulations (the only rule is that priority is given to champions and cup winners). And because this is the first year with the new Europa League format there is some uncertainty about the method UEFA will use to fill the empty title holder spot in the Europa League. UEFA might decide to give one team of the 4th qualifying round (playoff round) direct access to the group stage. In that case the cup winners of Bulgaria and Slovenia and the runners-up of Ireland and Macedonia would not be promoted to the next qualifying round. "

    (Shoot me now, I just quoted a Bert Kassies page. I can never hold my head up in competent statistical company again.)

    At least the anticipation of a LoI club benefitting (because of the #35 ranking) was already anticipated by foot.ie posters on this thread. It would nice if an Irish club can gain from it. Same effort, big reward.
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    I really don't see that's there's much of a benefit other than saving the club money on travel costs from not playing QR1.

    The reality is that Derry and Sligo could be financially ruined (edit: more financially ruined than currently) by the "wrong" draw.

    Drawing a Kazakh, Azeri or similar side will cost the guts of €100k. Airlines and hotels don't do credit either!

    On the pitch, there are some tricky as hell fixtures from unseeded sides whose low coefficient is more reflective of the youth of the nation rather than the quality of football.

    I can't see much improvement to our national coefficient this year and a huge potential downside in coming years.

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    Out of interest, does the draw be live online or do we have to wait til the news slowly filters out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman View Post
    Out of interest, does the draw be live online or do we have to wait til the news slowly filters out?
    Live online in previous years.

    Then the clubs have a couple of hours to agree between themselves if they want to reverse the draw, kick off times etc.

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    ORA in terms of coefficients, there's been an important change this year which see points based on the round teams exit, so effectively Pats and Derry are already earning points
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    ORA in terms of coefficients, there's been an important change this year which see points based on the round teams exit, so effectively Pats and Derry are already earning points
    Which dependent on the draw could be the only points we'll earn.......
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    Aye, but that'd be the case even if you were in the first qualifying round
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    ORA in terms of coefficients, there's been an important change this year which see points based on the round teams exit, so effectively Pats and Derry are already earning points
    Sorry Dodge, I wasn't particularly clear. Even accounting for that change, I'm just pessimistic about getting through QR2, even when we're seeded.

    Is the country ranking still on a 5 year rolling average? 04/05 wasn't a great year iirc so we might not loose too much ground this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    I really don't see that's there's much of a benefit other than saving the club money on travel costs from not playing QR1.

    The reality is that Derry and Sligo could be financially ruined (edit: more financially ruined than currently) by the "wrong" draw.

    Drawing a Kazakh, Azeri or similar side will cost the guts of €100k. Airlines and hotels don't do credit either!
    The one hope - and it is rather unscientific - is that the more 'out of the way' locations are likely in the main to be among the weaker teams in the draw. Not all of them obviously (e.g. Ukraine), but the CIS states for example.

    Therefore - we can but hope that a few of the more bank-busting opponents get put out in QR1, which would therefore be of some benefit to teams skipping a round.

    Plus, you and your league pick-up the co-efficient points without havign to kick a ball in anger.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    I can't see much improvement to our national coefficient this year and a huge potential downside in coming years.
    The quality of players in our league has visibly dropped over the last 2-3 years, so I agree that we're due a reversal in European fortunes in the near future

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    Good work guys, confirmed on DCFC website today:

    Derry City have received a "by" for the first round of the Europa League, City now go

    straight into the second round knockout stage as a seeded team. The draw will take place on the 22nd June, with the ties to be played on the 16th and 23rd of July.
    http://www.derrycityfc.net/cityweb/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman View Post
    Out of interest, does the draw be live online or do we have to wait til the news slowly filters out?
    Live online, and normally EuroSport show the draws on TV if you have access to it.

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    In plain English, why have Derry received a by into the 2nd round? Is it because of their co-efficient or the leagues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman View Post
    In plain English, why have Derry received a by into the 2nd round? Is it because of their co-efficient or the leagues?
    Its a combination of both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexy View Post
    Its a combination of both
    Its not.

    All countries in the qualifiers move up a spot because the holder spot isn't been used.

    Ireland were the highest ranked country to have only one team enter at second qualifying round. Now we're the lowest ranked country with 2 teams entering at the second round.

    Derry are seeded in that round, on the basis of their own individual performance.
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    To put it simply, If Sligo had finished the league season above Derry then they would have moved up a round - but they would not have been seeded because of limited prior European games (not sure if they have any co-efficient points of their own at the minute). Derry get seeded because of their Gothenburg, Gretna, Paris run.

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