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    So possibility of him going back to Sunderland, one of the "sleeping giants" of the 1st division. He made no comment last night https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/foot...cid=uxbndlbing but he would have his work cut out for them getting them directly promoted with Rotherham and Wigan both on a roll but there are always the play offs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    So possibility of him going back to Sunderland, one of the "sleeping giants" of the 1st division. He made no comment last night https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/foot...cid=uxbndlbing but he would have his work cut out for them getting them directly promoted with Rotherham and Wigan both on a roll but there are always the play offs.
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    It's an ideal opportunity for Keane. Sunderland are comfortably in the play-off positions and just two points from an automatic promotion slot. The fans there still think of him positively. In his pundit/comedian role he's liberal with the put-up-or-shut-up line. It's time to put down the prawn sandwich and heed it.

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    Well good luck to him. Would be good to have him back in management from an Irish perspective. Say what you will about Roy but he always championed Irish players and took chances on them during his first spell at Sunderland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    Well good luck to him. Would be good to have him back in management from an Irish perspective. Say what you will about Roy but he always championed Irish players and took chances on them during his first spell at Sunderland.
    He wasn't long retired from playing at that stage, and tended to sign players he'd shared a dressing room with, lads he knew and trusted. He knew Connolly, Andy Reid, Harte and Kavanagh from his Irish days; Miller, McShane, Bardsley, Higginbotham, Richardson, Evans and Yorke from Man Utd; Stan Varga from Celtic.

    When he had to sign players based on his own scouting, it all went downhill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme feet View Post
    He wasn't long retired from playing at that stage, and tended to sign players he'd shared a dressing room with, lads he knew and trusted. He knew Connolly, Andy Reid, Harte and Kavanagh from his Irish days; Miller, McShane, Bardsley, Higginbotham, Richardson, Evans and Yorke from Man Utd; Stan Varga from Celtic.

    When he had to sign players based on his own scouting, it all went downhill.
    Very true. I remember him singing a well past it Andy Cole and thinking, that's not a very forward thinking signing. He seemed to be a bit blinded by his own loyalty maybe.
    Who was his best signing I wonder?
    Connolly, Reid and Evans all did well for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme feet View Post
    He wasn't long retired from playing at that stage, and tended to sign players he'd shared a dressing room with, lads he knew and trusted. He knew Connolly, Andy Reid, Harte and Kavanagh from his Irish days; Miller, McShane, Bardsley, Higginbotham, Richardson, Evans and Yorke from Man Utd; Stan Varga from Celtic.

    When he had to sign players based on his own scouting, it all went downhill.
    Maybe Keane needed a much better back up team on all fronts ~ maybe if he gets another chance in management, he might rectify this, coz if he doesn’t I can't see him lasting long in management again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    Very true. I remember him singing a well past it Andy Cole and thinking, that's not a very forward thinking signing. He seemed to be a bit blinded by his own loyalty maybe.
    Who was his best signing I wonder?
    Connolly, Reid and Evans all did well for him.
    Was there a story that he signed the player that came to his room after the team meeting in Saipan, or am I completely misremembering that?
    It's in Keane's first book that six players came to his room and said they agreed with what he said, but they wanted to play in the World Cup, and he ended up signing some of them for Sunderland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme feet View Post
    He wasn't long retired from playing at that stage, and tended to sign players he'd shared a dressing room with, lads he knew and trusted. He knew Connolly, Andy Reid, Harte and Kavanagh from his Irish days; Miller, McShane, Bardsley, Higginbotham, Richardson, Evans and Yorke from Man Utd; Stan Varga from Celtic.

    When he had to sign players based on his own scouting, it all went downhill.
    He will definitely need a good backroom team working with him. It's not 2006 anymore and Sunderland are bringing in Roy Keane the lad whose been assistant manager or TV pundit the last decade rather than the legendary player whose just retired from playing.

    Hopefully it works out for him because other than Jim Goodwin I can't think of another Irish manager currently employed since Hughton and Mick were sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    He will definitely need a good backroom team working with him. It's not 2006 anymore and Sunderland are bringing in Roy Keane the lad whose been assistant manager or TV pundit the last decade rather than the legendary player whose just retired from playing.

    Hopefully it works out for him because other than Jim Goodwin I can't think of another Irish manager currently employed since Hughton and Mick were sacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by third policeman View Post
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    Who's he managing this week?

    Let's not forget, Owen Coyle is managing Jamshedpur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    Who's he managing this week?

    Let's not forget, Owen Coyle is managing Jamshedpur
    Sheridan is back with Oldham again, his fifth time in charge
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Was there a story that he signed the player that came to his room after the team meeting in Saipan, or am I completely misremembering that?
    It's in Keane's first book that six players came to his room and said they agreed with what he said, but they wanted to play in the World Cup, and he ended up signing some of them for Sunderland?
    Connolly was definitely one of them. Kavanagh and Reid weren't in the WC2002 squad so not them. Possibly Ian Harte
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    Keane's been out of management a long, long time and remains defiantly old school in his approach to the game. it doesn't look like the most progressive move by Sunderland's on the face of it. Maybe the thinking is that Keane can provide the short, sharp shock required to get the club over the promotion line in the same way that the similarly fiery and combustible Di Canio managed to keep them in the PL several years ago.

    Anyway, it certainly wouldn't be dull...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    Connolly was definitely one of them. Kavanagh and Reid weren't in the WC2002 squad so not them. Possibly Ian Harte
    Gary Breen.

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    Breen was at Sunderland before Keane got there. Think he might have even left before Keane was on board.

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    I think he has unfinished business in Management. He hasn’t made it easy on himself though. Too loose lipped on specific people and incidents will undermine future dressing rooms. His transfer record after Sunderland (once he burned through his Rolodex of former Celtic, United and Ireland contacts) wasn’t great.

    Sunderland is as good an opportunity as he’s going to get at this point. He needs to get a “Jim Smith” type number 2 on his back room team.

    I hope he gets the Job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    Breen was at Sunderland before Keane got there. Think he might have even left before Keane was on board.
    Sorry, meant that Gary Breen was, along with Connolly, the other player who came to Keane's room that night in Saipan, to say they agreed with him. He'd left Sunderland the summer before Keane arrived.

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    I think you're right about Connolly, Cunningham might have been another.

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