QuoteIt complicated enough with adding in 4 more Counties !Originally Posted by Fixer82
True, although it was branded as such.
It complicated enough with adding in 4 more Counties !
Fingal, Dún Laoghaire, Warwickshire and New York, no?
We're allowed refer to ourselves as Éire but the Brits aren't
In a British accent it essentially means Free State
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ok. Yeah well im not english, and im not gonna become on of those Queen kissers anytime soon, so thanks for the info.
I always thought that name was ......Irlanda in gaelic....., because we knew that. In spanish-castellano culture in Francisco Franco (who was a celt from Galizia) Spain and then with the PSOE of Felipe González and later the pseudo-basque Aznar and those creeps, was that name to describe the irish free country from the ulster.
In Latinamérica is the same in that context sort of speak, specially where they speak the purer spanish language or under the dominance of the country Spain as a whole (Mexico. Costa Rica, Honduras, Nicaragua. El Salvador.
Cuba.Colombia. Bolivia. Ecuador, Chile. Venezuela. Puerto Rico. .... California Texas and New Mexico).
In Argentina we always call them Ireland, but when you reached the Euro 88 and 90 the used in panini and Italy 90 tv shows as "É__E" we were perplexed as kids.
I remember, I was 12 years old kid watching old canal 7 ATC, the public television, and they broadcasted the whole tournament, and they had "el flaco" César Menotti as football analist, he said Ireland could win it at the time with Liam Brady I remember.
No sorry after the republic of Ireland Act. It the republic of Ireland and it ain't Eire or the free state or hibernia
Franco wasn't a 'Celt'.
I assume you're alluding to him being from Galicia where the ancient Milesians emigrated from to Ireland.
It's a big jump to call him a Celt (in the cultural sense of the word) or even a Gael.
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It's not the Republic of Ireland. That's the description of the state, not its name. It'd be akin to referring to the French Republic or the German Republic. It's a correct description of the state, but it's not the state name.
We're RoI in FIFA because the North had baggsies on "Ireland" and wouldn't give it up. FIFA's solution was that neither association could use Ireland (which seems a fair way to settle a debate between squabbling kids)
From wiki, "The government of the United Kingdom used the name "Eire" (without the diacritic) and, from 1949, "Republic of Ireland", for the state; it was not until the 1998 Good Friday Agreement that it used the name Ireland" - so you can see there is again an element there that their long-term refusal to use the term "Ireland" is linked to their claim on the North.
I am Ireland.
I didnt know that one, but I remember when Ireland kept runner up from Netherlands in the draw, the little stripe said REP. OF IRELAND/ NETHERLANDS instead of Holland.
In hispanic terms we alwyas say the name "Holanda " never "Países Bajos".
back to topic, why "chippy" Brady is so critical of Roy?
Holland is a province. The proper name is Netherlands.
My 2 cents is that Bielsa isn't a ***** from the home counties talking about Eire in a derogatory way. He doesn't think of the 26 counties as being the bit of Ireland where the guys trying to shoot him got away to in his squaddie days.
He's a South American doing his best in a second language. What about we show some of that famous céad míle fáilte spirit and give the guy a break?
My answer to the question asked, which unlike almost every other post in the past few days is actually on topic for the thread, is that I'm not aware of any particular issue between Brady and Roy Keane. Liam Brady is a fairly dour character though. He's a bit like that about everybody.
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I know a bit about the Ulster because I had to make a "coloquio" at University for "international politics" I chose a topic and talked like 20 minutes to my teacher about it with something related to" the troubles" I did that "coloquio" like 22 years ago 1998, 1997.
I read a bit, plus the songs from u2 are very very popular, u2 is seeing down here as an anti english rock band. A kind of protest music mixed up with rock and roll culture.
But I didnt know the difference between those two words, Eire was used in football as a football term in southamerica, once you qualified for the EUROCOPA 88 and wc.
As I said the anecdote of Menotti, he had rated this irish team to win the EUROCOPA, as a shocking surprise by the time, because they were an enygma for international football
That old chestnut.
What PS says. And here's the proof -
Number 22 of 1948
THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND ACT, 1948.
AN ACT TO REPEAL THE EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY (EXTERNAL RELATIONS) ACT, 1936 , TO DECLARE THAT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE STATE SHALL BE THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND, AND TO ENABLE THE PRESIDENT TO EXERCISE THE EXECUTIVE POWER OR ANY EXECUTIVE FUNCTION OF THE STATE IN OR IN CONNECTION WITH ITS EXTERNAL RELATIONS. [21st December, 1948.]
BE IT ENACTED BY THE OIREACHTAS AS FOLLOWS:—
1.—The Executive Authority (External Relations) Act, 1936 (No. 58 of 1936), is hereby repealed.
2.—It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland.
3.—The President, on the authority and on the advice of the Government, may exercise the executive power or any executive function of the State in or in connection with its external relations.
4.—This Act shall come into operation on such day as the Government may by order appoint.
5.—This Act may be cited as The Republic of Ireland Act, 1948.
And that is it. The entire act. The real thrust of which isn't the second clause - it's the first.
No mention of the People's Republic of Cork. What would Roy say? Clumsy segue, but back on topic!
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
Bielsa is just some 15 year old stoner from Finglas getting a buzz by winding everyone up through a VPN that has tricked Tets into believing his IP originates from Argentina. How would anyone in Argentina know Brady was called chippy? Why would anyone care?
Wikipedia
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
None of this has anything to do with Roy Keane, or Liam Brady.
The team name is Republic of Ireland, and is the name used by FIFA. It is almost always shortened to Ireland in discussions on the forum. The "Republic of" prefix is usually added for clarifications in discussions relating to the Northern Ireland side.
Nobody refers to it as "Eire", and any further uses of it will be deleted without warning.
Let's all move on.
No , Liam Brady was one of my childhood heroes from the Calcio with El Diego and Platini, Gullit, Bruno Conti....sunday morning matches at Sampdoria and Inter, following Diego's devotion of carrer in il calcio italiano.
There was Rummenigge, Careca, Scirea, Franco Baresi, "uncle" Bergomi......etc
I dont know how old are you, but you havent any idea what all those players meant to my generation. The only internantional matches that we could see from abroad were the Calcio, or La Liga when Diego was the hype, even at Seville in 92. Then the interantional euros and wc, euro 88 was the first broadcasted for free and the 92 sweden for free on argentina tv. Some odd friendlies, and the cup clubs finals.. Remember when Man U defeated Barcelona with a lovely brace from Mark Leslie Hugues with denis irwin in that team, mcclair, zubi, koeman bakero etc
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