Limerick Vs Waterford

**osarusan** · 25/04/2009, 8:35 PM

Due to doing some work at the shop, I didn't see the first goal or the penalty decision, so can't comment on either, but I otherwise thought it was a pretty even game. The lack of any kind of cutting edge after Waterford went 2 up was disappointing, and it will kill us if it continues all season.

We are obviously a team which won't concede many goals, but we don't look like scoring many either. I can see lots of 0-0 draws. The team as a whole is not tall enough or strong enough.

**da bishop** · 26/04/2009, 12:09 AM

dont think we can blame gough for this defeat.not sure about the first goal,2nd was a pen..harsh but defo a pen but simply waterford were better than us,played better football and were always composed.scully has us well organised and when we do lose the ball we quickly find a good shape,which is the scully way but going foward we dont seem to have a decent plan A and when we went behind he eventually went to 4 4 2 but that too did,t seem to have been worked on.was waynes first half shot our only one on target...waterford exploited obvious weakness,s like o callaghan at fullback overweight,slow, both paddy and dano were quite poor cummins and kiely caused them plenty problems and the fact we get so many bodies back after conceding possession saved us on a few occassions.walsh and wayne both the bright sparks in a poor performance.there might have been a thousend in the grounD but plenty non paying kids and how can so many kids get in without their parents and lets face it half of them were right little knackers who hardly helped the ordinary punter enjoy the game.a group of us were offered loads of tickets before the game by kids outside for a fiver,also we counted at least 20 getting in over the railway wall into the game...the whole thing was a disgrace.....one group of supporters near us left after halftime because they had stones thrown at them...with 2 stewards nearby doing nothing.

**Bonovox** · 26/04/2009, 4:45 PM

Originally Posted by oscar

thats not how it works here,see if you have an opinion different to a select few you get branded a wum and a juniorballer,they then get on to their mod friends to dish out infractions,bit childish really...i went to Limerick matches for years but stopped going 2 years ago because i was sick of wasting my money,it was the same story every year,this is our year,we have a new chairman,we have plans for Jackman,we have a new manager,now i still look out for results and the current regime seem to be doing a good job and best of luck to them but Limerick FC is going nowhere until they get their own ground(not some second rate hovel with dressing rooms you couldn't swing a cat in) and spend some money on proven LOI players(easier said then done i know)now i must sit back and await the backlash

Agreed!!

**Monkfish** · 26/04/2009, 5:10 PM

Lads lads lads, if you dont like the Limerick forum, why do you come on here? Most of us know but id acually like for you to tell us yourselves.

Can you spell o.b.s.e.s.s.e.d.?

(not directed at mr bishop btw)

**da bishop** · 26/04/2009, 6:01 PM

i thank you mr.fish.

**KevB76** · 26/04/2009, 8:59 PM

That was a sickener, we did not deserve to lose.

First 10 minutes or so it looked like Waterford were going to rip us apart, until we made our first meaningful attack, and then had three attempts at goal in the next five or ten minutes. After that things settled and both sides seemed pretty evenly matched.

I didnt see what happened with the first goal thanks to the pillar of the shed obsuring my view, but by the reaction of the crowd I can only assume it was offside.
Then to concede the penalty put any chance of a draw beyond us because after that, Waterford "parked the bus" as they say.
It was definitely a penalty, to me it looked like he controlled the ball with his arm. Shame, he was only a yard inside the box, with plenty more back to defend had Deady not got to it.

I'm not too disheartened with the way the season is going so far - just comparing with the poor start we had last season. Our first Waterford match last year, we lost 3-1. As I recall we were very fortunate not to have conceded five or six, and our goal was a highly dubious penalty for a Wayne Colbert dive in the last few minutes. Contrast that to Friday, where we should have held them to a draw but for an offside goal and a penalty. Its sickening to lose a macth like that, but lets be honest, they didnt play us off the park and create two goals - they got lucky, in fairness.

**Pious37** · 27/04/2009, 8:10 AM

Originally Posted by da bishop

there might have been a thousend in the grounD but plenty non paying kids and how can so many kids get in without their parents and lets face it half of them were right little knackers who hardly helped the ordinary punter enjoy the game.a group of us were offered loads of tickets before the game by kids outside for a fiver,also we counted at least 20 getting in over the railway wall into the game...the whole thing was a disgrace.....one group of supporters near us left after halftime because they had stones thrown at them...with 2 stewards nearby doing nothing.

I could not make the game this week for different reasons and was ragin I did but after hearing comments from a friend of mine who attended, Im actually glad I didnt. One of my friends got hit by stones and he said one of the stewards was assaulted. Thats ridiculous. I've a season ticket, I love going to the games even though we're ****e most of the time but this carry on is absoultely ridiculous.

**gael353** · 27/04/2009, 8:23 AM

Originally Posted by Pious37

I could not make the game this week for different reasons and was ragin I did but after hearing comments from a friend of mine who attended, Im actually glad I didnt. One of my friends got hit by stones and he said one of the stewards was assaulted. Thats ridiculous. I've a season ticket, I love going to the games even though we're ****e most of the time but this carry on is absoultely ridiculous.

and we welcome you back soon for the next games. I thought it was great the other night but for about 20 ikkle nacks who dispite being thrown out can just walk back in through the unused flats back into the ground. Over 1000 ppl in the ground to see a muck game??? ill take that anyday knowing how short on cash we are.

The stewards are volenteers lads and i wouldnt ask them to put their heads in the line of anything. The **** thing about these kids being in the ground was.....their "olds" were with them i **** you not. Many a time leo had to ask them to control their kids to which he got.."steven, steve put down that rock" steven was about three.

The fact is we are in the worse ground in the league, a ground where anyone can pick up a stone, most grounds are stone free, and throw it. Most of the little kids are only in the ground to go chasing some young one around the place anyway so we should offer them beer or something outside the gate to get them to leave.

i say continue with the free kids but yes somthing has to be done about the flats and the endless stream comming over the walls.

New car parking vacilities are available on match nights btw at the cash and carry car park across the road from 6 -10 and there will be stewards over there watching the place

**harpin** · 27/04/2009, 9:05 AM

Originally Posted by gael353

and we welcome you back soon for the next games. I thought it was great the other night but for about 20 ikkle nacks who dispite being thrown out can just walk back in through the unused flats back into the ground. Over 1000 ppl in the ground to see a muck game??? ill take that anyday knowing how short on cash we are.

The stewards are volenteers lads and i wouldnt ask them to put their heads in the line of anything. The **** thing about these kids being in the ground was.....their "olds" were with them i **** you not. Many a time leo had to ask them to control their kids to which he got.."steven, steve put down that rock" steven was about three.

The fact is we are in the worse ground in the league, a ground where anyone can pick up a stone, most grounds are stone free, and throw it. Most of the little kids are only in the ground to go chasing some young one around the place anyway so we should offer them beer or something outside the gate to get them to leave.

i say continue with the free kids but yes somthing has to be done about the flats and the endless stream comming over the walls.

New car parking vacilities are available on match nights btw at the cash and carry car park across the road from 6 -10 and there will be stewards over there watching the place

When I saw all the little pikeys about the place I went to the far side to watch it. Free tickets are a good idea but it should be kept to "accompanied by an adult"

**osarusan** · 27/04/2009, 11:23 AM

I saw the steward being "assaulted". He chased and caught a kid who had jumped down over the wall, then was hit from behind by another kid (about 10-12 maybe?). I chased the second kid and he eventually jumped over the wall onto the pitch and ran across the Waterford penalty to the other side.

Outside the ground there were loads of kids asking random adults if the adults would pretend the kid was with them. Giving tickets to kids is good, but they really need to be accompanied by an adult, or else they need to be herded into one place and kept there (say on the side opposite the stand, create a section from the end line to about the halfway line and barricade it in some way - of course the problem will be keeping them there).

**sadloserkid** · 27/04/2009, 12:11 PM

The view from the shed must be terrible. Waterford were better than us. We'll improve. Even adding Hughes, Molan and Tierney to the team will make a big difference. We were fairly shocking in the middle of the field. There are people on this site that have genuinely never seen Limerick lose a game deservedly. Wtf?

We got what we deserved the other night, Scully certainly thought we were crap if his media comments afterwards were anything to go by. We'll improve boys, don't get too disheartened.

Couple of cops wouldn't go amiss if we're to run the free kids promo again (and we definitely should).

**KevB76** · 27/04/2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

There are people on this site that have genuinely never seen Limerick lose a game deservedly. Wtf?

There's been plenty of games in the past we desrved to lose, and did (a few more we won that maybe we shouldnt have) but Waterford on Friday was not one of them.

The view from the shed is terrible though.

**LK37oldskool** · 27/04/2009, 12:24 PM

Have to agree with you about improving,but Gough is a bad ref and really does seem to lean towards the opposition so as no FAI croonie can accuse him of favourtism.
As regards the cops,i've been to games this season with about 400 in attendance and i've seen several cops hanging around yet Friday nights big crowd seemed to have none in or around the ground. The gurriers were out in force and took some enjoyment from the occasion.Pity.

**sadloserkid** · 27/04/2009, 12:38 PM

Mark Gough is shocking. Not the reason we lost the other night IMO but the man is the worst kind of ref, a power hungry little man who only reminds me of Cartman as he desperately scampers around the pitch trying to force people to respect his imagined 'autorita'!

Don't know if the club had asked for a presence from the cops the other night. To be fair don't know if the club had envisaged such a crowd either. If lessons are learned for next time then all is well.

**inmoscow** · 27/04/2009, 7:04 PM

While it was good to have a crowd in,the behavior of the "kids"was a pain in the arse.Until the club have the stewards to control them,they should not embark on the tickets for schools fiasco.Also,the positioning of the stewards is a joke,can they not be on the corner at cie side,where the "kids"spill in?

**Boroman** · 27/04/2009, 7:07 PM

Ya I would agree with you there.It kind of wrecked the match for me,that and the result,lets learn from our mistakes and move on

**osarusan** · 27/04/2009, 9:12 PM

Originally Posted by inmoscow

Also,the positioning of the stewards is a joke,can they not be on the corner at cie side,where the "kids"spill in?

There was one there. He was the steward who got thumped on the back of the head after catching a kid who had "spilled in".

**da bishop** · 27/04/2009, 11:06 PM

sorry gael ...20....think you can triple that,at least 50 to 60 little misfits running around the ground getting in plenty of practice before they graduate from the college of petty crime and thuggery in a few years time.no child should have ben allowed enter the ground without an adult,no child should have been allowed to sell their tickets outside the ground and and if 1000 were in the ground i would venture to suggest that quite a few of that 1000 did not pay,maybe at least 300.

**Castletroy_Blue** · 28/04/2009, 12:14 AM

Shame about the result, thought we deserved at least a draw. Nice meeting Zulu and co from here up in the shed for the second half singing shenanigans - Thoroughly enjoyed it

**Lim till i die** · 28/04/2009, 4:12 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

There are people on this site that have genuinely never seen Limerick lose a game deservedly. Wtf?

There was this one time above in Oriel when we were 4-0 down after about three minutes that we probably deserved to lose alright.

On the Waterford game can't see how anyone thinks we deserved a draw or better?!

You don't create any chances at home, you don't deserve a result IMO.

Limerick FC is going nowhere until they get their own ground(not some second rate hovel with dressing rooms you couldn't swing a cat in) and spend some money on proven LOI players(easier said then done i know)

Agreed (more or less)

I think getting Scully in was a big step in the right direction and I don't see any reason why we can't challenge at the higher end of the First Division in the current circumstances but for the club to get where we all want it to be (Midtable with occasional challenges at upper reaches of the Premier??) something fairly major will have to come up.

On the kids the other night, basically it was a good idea which worked a lot better than the club probably thought!! I can't say it spoiled the match or anything for me mind.

Am only throwing it out there aswell but with the situation in the city might it be difficult to get two spare competent gaurds of a Friday evening??

Bloody expensive too I'd say.