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    Starts today against Leeds

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    Fair to say already that he won't be heading back to the Premier League with Norwich next season. Looks very much a Championship standard player out there, even leaving aside the drink driving thing it's hard to see much of a role for him with Ireland going forward.

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    Nor in defence

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    Two terrible mistakes from Duffy on Leeds' third goal. I've always been a big fan of his, but time to hang up the boots.

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    Ah in fairness - he's had a decent season overall, but one poor performance (and he was hardly alone in that) and he should retire?

    Honest to God like

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    Last chance saloon ~ At Norwich, maybe ? !

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    Not really. He's 32 and has had a decent season (injury aside). Premier League may be beyond him at this stage in his career, but there's plenty of other players we could say that about

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    Gunn had an absolute nightmare in goal and he's off to the Euros, probably as a starter as his main competition is 41. And Hanley couldn't even get in the team ahead of Duffy and he'll be off to the Euros too. So important to keep some perspective...but having said that we're absolutely stacked at centre back relative to other positions and all of Collins, O'Shea, Omobamidele, Egan, O'Brien and Scales would be ahead of Duffy now. He'd be in the next group along with the likes of McNally, McGuinness, Cashin and Dunne, but most of those lads are still on the upswing of their careers while he's on the way down. So it's hard to justify picking him at this point.

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    I'm not quite sure Omobamidele (can't get his game, including when he was behind Duffy at Norwich) or Scales (SPL - meh) are ahead of Duffy to be honest. We have plausible options for sure - way more than in any other position - but I don't see that Duffy isn't one of those still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Last chance saloon ~ At Norwich, maybe ? !
    Probably drink the saloon dry before driving home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Probably drink the saloon dry before driving home.
    Uber !

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I'm not quite sure Omobamidele (can't get his game, including when he was behind Duffy at Norwich) or Scales (SPL - meh) are ahead of Duffy to be honest. We have plausible options for sure - way more than in any other position - but I don't see that Duffy isn't one of those still.
    My view of it is that if Duffy was at Forest he'd be seeing about as much game time as Harry Arter is. And, while Scales is no world-beater, just compare his efforts this season at Celtic to Duffy's season there a couple of years ago.

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    Not sure there's a huge amount between Forest and Norwich to be honest. Omobamidele was badly off the pace in the November friendlies and cost us a goal against New Zealand. And yeah, Duffy had a bad spell at Celtic (followed by a disastrous spell at Fulham) but I think he's recovered well at Norwich and I'm not sure how relevant the Celtic spell is now.

    Just opinions really - but I think it's too early to discard a guy who's had a solid season in the Championship. He mayn't be a starter but I think he's definitely in the shake-up for squads still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Not sure there's a huge amount between Forest and Norwich to be honest. Omobamidele was badly off the pace in the November friendlies and cost us a goal against New Zealand. And yeah, Duffy had a bad spell at Celtic (followed by a disastrous spell at Fulham) but I think he's recovered well at Norwich and I'm not sure how relevant the Celtic spell is now.

    Just opinions really - but I think it's too early to discard a guy who's had a solid season in the Championship. He mayn't be a starter but I think he's definitely in the shake-up for squads still.
    You might be right in his relative ranking but i would have him at best 5th in Eiramblers list. The more important point is that he simply doesnt have the technique to excel at a higher level, including international obviously (his second touch is often a lunge/tackle; his passing is inaccurate). Certainly the wrong type of defender in the modern era where his particular style and skillset is not valued as highly. Cant deny his ability at set pieces in both boxes though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    Certainly the wrong type of defender in the modern era where his particular style and skillset is not valued as highly. Cant deny his ability at set pieces in both boxes though!
    Yep, that's fair - and maybe we wait to see which way a new manager (if we ever get one!) will swing things for us.

    If we go back to Mick II, then maybe he has a huge role...

    I think part of the reason I'd have him in the mix still is that I'm not sold on Omobamidele and Scales in particular. Either of them could kick on another gear next year (and I don't think Duffy can), in which case it becomes a much clearer decision of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Not sure there's a huge amount between Forest and Norwich to be honest. Omobamidele was badly off the pace in the November friendlies and cost us a goal against New Zealand. And yeah, Duffy had a bad spell at Celtic (followed by a disastrous spell at Fulham) but I think he's recovered well at Norwich and I'm not sure how relevant the Celtic spell is now.
    Once a team gets into the PL a massive gulf develops with the Championship teams - and that is the case between Forest and Norwich. Despite struggling in the PL, Forest are streets ahead of Norwich - and Omobamidele is streets ahead of Duffy. Omobamidele didn't play until the new year and has been fairly consistent in the Forest team since. Duffy is slowing down and was never that pacey - he couldn't play in the PL anymore and he had a decent season in the Championship because he had a manager who knew how to use him to the max.

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    Could we just bring him on for corners?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texidub View Post
    Could we just bring him on for corners?!
    Special teams ~ American football style ~ Time soccer caught up.

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    Only problem with that is if you sent big Duffy in just for the corners, there's no guarantee he'd make it to the box in time for the ball coming in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Only problem with that is if you sent big Duffy in just for the corners, there's no guarantee he'd make it to the box in time for the ball coming in.
    Drop him in with a Drone ~ ~ Soccer needs to adapt to the modern times ~ ~ Subs being dropped in by Drones is the way to go !

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