QuoteThat's what confuses me. Why didn't they hold on to him for longer than the initial 28-day period if he made a good impression? If he made a bad impression, why are they coming back for him?Originally Posted by the bear
Must of made some impression if they're coming back in for him. I though he looked good in his cameos for Everton last year.
That's what confuses me. Why didn't they hold on to him for longer than the initial 28-day period if he made a good impression? If he made a bad impression, why are they coming back for him?
I don't think that 28-day spell was the most enjoyable for Duffy and I don't think Everton were happy about it either, since he could equally have sat on their bench for that time. Can't see it happening.
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Weird one alright. He needs to start getting games under his belt at this stage of his career
I suppose he does. But Moyes doesn't want to let him out on loan and said as much.
From September:
"We might look at sending Shane Duffy out on loan but we have to field a team in the new Under 21 league. It looks like everyone is taking that a little bit more seriously and we'd like to be as strong as we can be. "We'd like to see the players come on but Ross [Barkley], and maybe Shane, are in a different situation.
"My idea is to keep Shane here. He went out to Scunthorpe on loan last season and came back and played a couple of games - I thought it made a big difference.
"He had confidence and he understood playing on a Saturday was serious, meaning an awful lot to supporters and managers."
From that interview above, Duffy said:
"I played nearly every game in pre-season and I feel like I am getting better, getting more mature and I am enjoying football at the minute."
"The manager reminds me that there are not many 20-year-old centre backs playing in the Premier League and that I have got to be patient, which I am.
"I am just enjoying being at this club to be honest and it is a dream to even be near the first team. So I am just being patient, working hard every day in training and hopefully I will get in the team some day"
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Heitinga started at CB last week and was hooked at half time. hopefully Duffy can start getting more game time. Very good club to be at. If Duffy and Coleman develop into regular strters in Everton back 4 it will bear very well for the future of the Irish defense
Heitinga always appears to me to be too small for a centre back especially fro the premier league.
He's also a headcase. He's much more suited to the more cultured Lee Cattermole role.
Duffy is on the bench today for Everton at Reading.
Finally brought on today albeit in the last minute
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'Moyes: Duffy ready for Everton first team': http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...ton-first-team
Everton manager David Moyes has said that he would have 'no problems' about putting Shane Duffy in the first team.
The Toffees boss is currently in the transfer market in search of a centre back, but admitted that 21-year-old Republic of Ireland under-21 international Duffy was ready to step into the team when required.
Duffy, who signed a new contract in 2012, has had loan spells with Burnley and Scunthorpe United, and has made just two appearances for Everton this season.
"We've got young Shane Duffy who's doing well and we think he's ready to certainly go on loan but because of our numbers we can’t do it," Moyes told reporters ahead of his side's clash with Southampton.
"I'd have no problems putting him in the first team either. He's looking OK just now he really is."
Moyes also expressed the belief that it is difficult to play a young centre back in the modern game, considering the demands that are made and says that it is a position that requires experience.
"It's actually harder to play a young centre back than it is a young goalkeeper these days," he added. "Centre backs are really hard to put in and when you get the young ones in sometimes they're not quite ready."
"I think the requirements on them are different. They’re sometimes the ones who start the game; they have to be able to read the game depending on the way the opposition plays, whether it’s with one up and one off.
"It’s a position that nearly carries an ‘experience required’ tag with it," said the Everton coach.
David Moyes says Duffy is not yet good enough for the first team.
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So we can assume he wont start tonight (which he won't) Coleman starts but not but no Gibson.
I'd agree with Moyes though it like the foundation of the team in a way.
Moyes is saying that Duffy is good enough but not experienced enough, yet.
He's saying he's good enough but he doesn't have the experience of those ahead of him, experience he would gain by going on loan. So while he does have the talent, he isn't good enough yet to overhaul the likes of Jagielka and Distin. Which is fair enough.
That's what I said Charlie
And Moyes isn't going to let go out on loan to get the experience because they need him as back up, because ...... he's good enough.
I was going to qualify it, but I don't think it matters, if you are good enough you play, because by being good enough you most likely have the experience to be good enough.
"He's saying he's good enough but ......he isn't good enough"
He isn't going to let him go on loan because they are threadbare, if he buys someone who is good enough then he will let him out on loan.
You don't have to decipher any hidden text or subtext geysir. Its pretty simple. But feel free to argue over the semantics as you see fit, as I know you will
David Moyes is saying that Duffy is not good enough for the first team.
Last edited by paul_oshea; 21/01/2013 at 8:10 PM.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
No. He's saying he's good enough for the first team, but Jagielka, Distin and Heitinga are even better.
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