QuoteCan't see it happening myself. He's nowhere near good enough at the moment. And how would Keane know anyway? Sure he's probably in the same boat as us and only seen Miller on the box a few times!
Apparently Roy Keane has been advising Ferguson to bring Liam Miller to Old Trafford.
Terrible move imho. Great Cork players (when not playing for City) should go only to Liverpool. sigh
Can't see it happening myself. He's nowhere near good enough at the moment. And how would Keane know anyway? Sure he's probably in the same boat as us and only seen Miller on the box a few times!
The ball is round and has many surprises.
Me thought from that subject meant Sc*nthorpe United.
????????????????????????????????????Originally posted by derm
Great Cork players (when not playing for City) should go only to Liverpool. sigh
whys that then
Followin Our Own Teams In Eire
theres no cure for the League of Ireland bug. spread it :)
As long as he doesn't retire from International football aged 24 it would be a great move. Playing for and against better quality players would bring him along no end.
He is not the finished article but he looks a real prospect.
We need a decent midfielder coming through in green.
You are so full of ****e.Originally posted by Conor74
Great, he might learn (i) how to play well for your club and not for your country from J o'Shea Esq. or (ii) how not to play for your country at all, lessons provided by a certain Mr. Keane...
Can I ask you if its Arsenal or Liverpool you support? It is clear that you are completly blinded by bias and jealously, I was just wondering why?
Henrik Larsson-played for the hoops and great on international level.
Celtic play enough European matchers and decent friendlies for any player to get a decent standard of oppostion.
If we play roughly the same schedule as last year (and we are back in the U.S this summer though hopefully it's a bit better organised this time), Miller we get trainging against teams such as Liverpool, Porto, Boavista, Man. Utd, Boca Juniors, Fulham and Arsenal.
Sounds good to me
Or maybe none of the above?Originally posted by carnstien
Can I ask you if its Arsenal or Liverpool you support?
I can't remember that. Was that during the Byrne/Doolin/Eccles days ?Henrik Larsson-played for the hoops and great on international level.
The training and coaching he'd get at united would help him develop, but he's getting regular games at Celtic and more importantly he'll get regular european football. he's better off staying there at least another season until he can move directly into the first team somewhere else rather than the squad.
No one seems to have mentioned Millers current dip in form?
After bursting on the scene for Celtic, particularly against Anderlecht and a good 25mins against Lyon, young Liam is not actually setting the world alight in the games he has played in the SPL??
I think this is only natural, and that he needs to continue to concentrate on his game and ignore the media driven hype. He's played a few great games this season but he also played a few very average ones.
Its very similar to O'shea 12 months ago and look what has happened to his performances this year???
I hope he stays with Celtic, and continues to bed himself as an 'automatic' first player which will bring with it Domestic & European experience.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
I agree Junior..but it is only natural that young players have a dip in form....he just needs to play through and once you have a manager that realises this it will sort itself out...
I think O'Shea has improved no end since the start of the season...he is back playing well...(not as good as he was at the early stages)...by the time the qualifiers come around O'shea wil have had 2 and a Half seasons of first team football ...I think that will have turned him into a serious player and miller will only benfit from games as well.
Bring back the plank
You didn't answer my question, I will assume that you don't want to, so fire away and continue to dislilke 2 great Irish players just because you don't like the club they play for, it makes total sense.Originally posted by Conor74
Sorry Carnstein, John O'Shea has done exceptionally well for Ireland and Roy Keane continues to make himself available for national selection. You're not biased at all.
Still, at least I don't swear on posts, must be because I don't get all excitable about it unlike you. Take it out on an audience that listens, ring Premiership Live After 5 on Today FM sometime...
Last edited by carnstien; 22/12/2003 at 6:48 PM.
Believe it or not, I am actually farmiliar with that incident. If you were not looking at the situation from an obviously biased stance, you would see that Mick McCarthy is a moron, Roy Keane carried us to the world cup and was perfectly entitled to complain when he saw that an under 10's team would have been better orginised than the Irish camp.Originally posted by Conor74
Nonsense. You may view everything through the prism of the English Premier League and what club they play for. Hate to puncture your little world where everyone loves or hates Man U, but I thought the following were great great players, Stapleton, Moran, McGrath, Daly, Irwin...see anything in common there? I also hope O'Shea returns to the form he displayed at club level last year and brings that through for this country.
As for Roy Keane, you may have missed it if you were to busy reading Shoot or Four Four Two, it has nothing to do with his club, but there was a certain incident in Saipan last year you see...
I don't hold what happened to Roy Keane (being SENT HOME, not walking out) against him because he did the right thing and stood up for what he believed in, fair ****s to him, he showed those yellow bellied begrudging *******s!!!!!!
By the way, I'm a Liverpool fan, just so you don't think I'm anyway biased.
Sky Sports News has just announced that he's about to sign a pre-contract agreement with ManUre. If that's the case, **** him. I hope he rots in their reserves. Mercenary little *******.
And if anyone wonders why I'm so bitter, it's because i) my club stood by him, paying him full wages and rehabilitation costs after his injuries, ii) they offered him a new contract which multiplied several-fold his current package, and iii) he has professed publicly on several occasions that he's Celtic through and through. A man of truth and integrity, my arse. Not to mention loyalty. Himself and Judas Keane deserve each other. ******.
Last edited by Plastic Paddy; 08/01/2004 at 2:26 PM.
Semper in faecibus sole profundum variat
No doubt a hugely lucrative move for him if it comes off, but a bit concerning from an Irish perspective. Can't see him becoming a first team regular for a few years. We could do with him playing as often as possible in the near future - he's not even a regular at Celtic yet.
Maybe you should put her on a leash, agent-man.
Seems like its true and a big mistake by Miller. He won't get a look in with the first team and it will hinder his development and nmay never reach his potential. He's really let Celtic down and has gone down in my estimation.
Miller set for United switch
Celtic youngster Liam Miller is on the verge of signing a pre-contract agreement with Manchester United.
The 22-year-old Irish midfielder has impressed Old Trafford boss Alex Ferguson after breaking into the first team at Parkhead this season.
An announcement is to be made in the near future but the news will come as a big disappointment to Celtic boss Martin O’Neill, who was just celebrating the imminent arrival of Stephen Pearson.
The Northern Irishman had been in talks with the Cork-born youngster and his agent about his future.
But the discussions have dragged on and that has become a concern to O’Neill with the player’s current contract due to expire in the summer.
from www.breakingnews.ie
Why don't you get your head out of your own arse for a minute?Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
Sky Sports News has just announced that he's about to sign a pre-contract agreement with ManUre. If that's the case, **** him. I hope he rots in their reserves. Mercenary little *******.
And if anyone wonders why I'm so bitter, it's because i) my club stood by him, paying him full wages and rehabilitation costs after his injuries, ii) they offered him a new contract which multiplied several-fold his current package, and iii) he has professed publicly on several occasions that he's Celtic through and through. A man of truth and integrity, my arse. Not to mention loyalty. Himself and Judas Keane deserve each other. ******.
This is a good move for Miller and a good move for Ireland.
He will play a fare share of games for United because he is a good player, better than Phil Neville, Ronaldo or Djemba-Djemba and Keane, Scholes and Giggs are all getting on in years.
Being a squad player at one of the best teams in Europe in one of the best leagues in Europe is better than player against pathetic opposistion in Scotland, he will develope as a player.
Celtic have themselves to blame for loosing Miller, they should have tied him up to a long term contract 2 years ago.
Celtics loss is Manchester Uniteds and Irelands gain.
How dare you. I'm a Celtic fan, who's just seen my club been shafted by one of our brightest prospects in years, one we stuck by when it looked as if he'd not make it. Two years ago, he was on the treatment table and had been for twelve months before that. The fact that he's Irish doesn't mean he's suddenly a top man. This action shows it. And anyway, I'm entitled to let off a little steam at news like this. I don't need a pillock like you patronising me in the process.Originally posted by carnstien
Why don't you get your head out of your own arse for a minute?
It's a good move for him to sit in their reserves for a couple of years and not play in the first team until he's, what, twenty-five? Yeah, that'll be great for his career with Ireland. Now, don't take this the wrong way, but please just **** off.
Last edited by Plastic Paddy; 08/01/2004 at 5:49 PM.
Semper in faecibus sole profundum variat
while you can't blame him for wanting to leave scotland and the hotbed of premiership rejects that is $elltic, i think its a terrible move for him. He hasn't been able to force his way in as a regular in team that contains players like lennon and varga, so how does he figure he's even gonna be 5th choice behind nicky butt at man utd?! bad move
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