Cork City Future.

**razor** · 13/04/2009, 9:52 PM

Originally Posted by don ramo

he just happened to be at city when he was noticed,

Are you making out that this was a complete coincidence?

**celticV3** · 13/04/2009, 9:54 PM

I think it is clear whats going on. The curse continues. Faz kudozovic brings financial troubles to all clubs he goes to

**Longfordian** · 13/04/2009, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by Umberside

We might be able to ship something across the Irish Sea though because we've done so for five years running.

Maybe, I don't see who though unless ye have some exceptional young lad but I would have thought he'd be in the first team squad if ye did. There's no obvious one like Mooney, O'Donovan, or Doyle were.

**Dodge** · 13/04/2009, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Umberside

We might be able to ship something across the Irish Sea though because we've done so for five years running.

How did that work out for you?

**dcfcsteve** · 14/04/2009, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by red bellied

The first division when introducted made a mockery of Loi crowds. I am on about the pre era. Ihave seen crowds against Harps in League Cup crowds in the Showgrounds of 4,000 plus and a league game against Shams a massive puller. Get half that this season would be biggest in the Showgrounds all season.

I've made it clear all along that I was talking about the mid-to-late 80's - ie. the era after the First Division.

Whether it was the appearance of the First Division that made a mockery of crowds is very debatable. What is clear is that a 16 team league without promotion or relegation was a complete mockery anyway, such that a First Division was long overdue.

**don ramo** · 14/04/2009, 1:30 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I've made it clear all along that I was talking about the mid-to-late 80's - ie. the era after the First Division.

Whether it was the appearance of the First Division that made a mockery of crowds is very debatable. What is clear is that a 16 team league without promotion or relegation was a complete mockery anyway, such that a First Division was long overdue.

the FAI will have to have a really long meeting and come up with a league format, that is sustainable and can be keep people interested for years and years, i think a 16 would be great, play each other twice a season, which would deffinately increase rivilary amongst fans,

personally at the moment full-time set-ups arent viable options, maybe a half full-time half part-time would be more realistic, who knows, but you have to come up with something to make it more competitive, you will always have dominators, look at most european leages over the last ten years, has any league had more that 4 different teams win the league in that period,

you cant have a competitive league when your playing the same team every second month, and thats just league games,

we could talk like this for years, but who the hell are we, were just statistics on a sheet of paper at the bottom of the FAIs stack of thing to be done,

**Dodge** · 14/04/2009, 7:16 AM

Originally Posted by don ramo

the FAI will have to have a really long meeting and come up with a league format, that is sustainable and can be keep people interested for years and years

You do realize the league has been going since 1921. Must be sustainable enough...

**Fivesilver** · 14/04/2009, 7:20 AM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Only one big team outside Dublin in a couple of weeks

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Cheers for the vote of confidence, pol. No need to dismiss Derry out of hand, though - you could nearly stretch the imagination to include them with us in that category.

**Louth4sam** · 14/04/2009, 9:55 AM

Originally Posted by Umberside

I couldn't disagree more. Joe Gamble, Colin Healy, Dan Murray and Guntars Silagailis. Those four players are better than any four let's say St Patrick's Athletic or Dundalk could come up with, and who do you have at Longford by the way?

Do you really think Dundalk are going to give you money for players after Cork screwing us over by offering money to players that we we're about to sign pre season that you now can't afford??
I'm sure we would take any of those four, maybe we could work something out that we take the player off your wage bill and Cork still pay a 1/4 of their wages?

Cork we're given a second chance and continued exactly the way they were pre examinership. They deserve everything they have coming. The only losers in this are the Cork fans.

**p�l-dcfc** · 14/04/2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Fivesilver

Cheers for the vote of confidence, pol. No need to dismiss Derry out of hand, though - you could nearly stretch the imagination to include them with us in that category.

I can't believe it took so long for someone to do this!

You know what I mean though, no-one elses crowds get near ours and Cork's, and we've been the most successful non-dub clubs in the past 20 years - probably gonna get taken to task by Dundalk fans for that one too!

**jinxy lilywhite** · 14/04/2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

I can't believe it took so long for someone to do this!

You know what I mean though, no-one elses crowds get near ours and Cork's, and we've been the most successful non-dub clubs in the past 20 years - probably gonna get taken to task by Dundalk fans for that one too!

If you include your annual league cups

Ah doh. our double winning year was 1988. still and all 2 premier leagues '91 & '95 & 1 FAI cup 2002 (not bad consiering we where rubbish from 2002 to 2008)
what did derry do 2 league 2 cups. (when did ye win the treble?)

anyway back to the embarrassment of irish football (CCFC). I am a great believer in karma and what CCFC are getting now is through no ones fault but their own. Last time around we where all made to believe that it was all "Arkagas fault". Now ye have nobody to blame but yourselves.
I do wonder what the next cork team will be known as. They've used fordsons, celtic, athlethic, hibs to name a few. the next one should be "langers"

**Umberside** · 14/04/2009, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Do you really think Dundalk are going to give you money for players after Cork screwing us over by offering money to players that we we're about to sign pre season that you now can't afford??
I'm sure we would take any of those four, maybe we could work something out that we take the player off your wage bill and Cork still pay a 1/4 of their wages?

Cork we're given a second chance and continued exactly the way they were pre examinership. They deserve everything they have coming. The only losers in this are the Cork fans.

I meant that those four players are better than four Dundalk have already. Harpal Singh, George O'Callaghan, Darren Mansaram and Thomas Heary are very good players but I just think Gamble & Co. are slightly better. It wasn't meant to offend Dundalk or anything, I was just making a point that turns out to be missing the point

**tiktok** · 14/04/2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

Now ye have nobody to blame but yourselves.
I do wonder what the next cork team will be known as. They've used fordsons, celtic, athlethic, hibs to name a few. the next one should be "langers"

Who's 'ye'?
The city fans posting on this forum? Since the fans don't own the club, there's not a whole load that can be done bar build some sort of war chest and hope it'll be sufficient before it's needed [or that it's never needed], that or dousing ourselves in petrol in the FAI offices, which is what 'ye' would do.

Coughlan in today's echo states that the club is financially sound, which is all any supporter wanted to know, the chairman coming out and addressing supporters concerns. So, I guess the panic is over.

BTW, The amount of dancing on graves on this thread is sickening.

**Tis-smeee** · 14/04/2009, 12:47 PM

Coz the cork fans were never guilty of dancing on graves?????????

Get down of that cross and leave someone else have a spin

**bigmac** · 14/04/2009, 12:57 PM

Jeez, this thread is confusing. It would be a pity to see LOI football disappear from Cork, but given the number of clubs that have got into huge difficulty over the last few years, it's hard to feel sympathy for clubs that have watched it unfold before them and hurried down the same path. For the fans of those clubs who were worried about the way their clubs were being run, it's a horrible disaster, but there will always be an element of schadenfreude at fans who trumpeted unsustainable success and simultaneously knocked the aspirations and behaviour of the well run clubs (eg UCD).
It's another blow for the league, should it come to pass, from my own point of view, the games against Cork were always highlights of the season. With their huge catchment area, you were usually guaranteed a good travelling support, and it was a nice handy away trip as well. (The games were usually fairly balanced, even in their title winning season there were 3 draws with 5 goals apiece over the 3 games)

**tiktok** · 14/04/2009, 1:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tis-smeee

Coz the cork fans were never guilty of dancing on graves?????????

Where did I say that? I'd find it no less sickening if Cork City supporters were doing it.
There's few enough LoI supporters as it is, how people can cheer the possibility that a large chunk of them could be without a club to support in three weeks is beyond me.

Then again, maybe my crown of thorns is piercing into my brains and causing delusions. Rivalry is one thing, but wishing each other out of existence is daft in my opinion.

**Rovers1** · 14/04/2009, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by celticV3

I think it is clear whats going on. The curse continues. Faz kudozovic brings financial troubles to all clubs he goes to

Or that he's just too good for the league?... hmmmm

**dcfcsteve** · 14/04/2009, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

If you include your annual league cups

Ah doh. our double winning year was 1988. still and all 2 premier leagues '91 & '95 & 1 FAI cup 2002 (not bad consiering we where rubbish from 2002 to 2008)
what did derry do 2 league 2 cups. (when did ye win the treble?)

Just the two league titles (including the League's only treble, the year after your feeble double), the 4 FAI Cup wins and 9 league cup wins for us across the same period then. Completely out-trumps Dundalk's measly achievements, considering you's had a serious head start on us too.

The golden rule of slagging off another team's history is to actually know what their history was in the first place....

**SkStu** · 14/04/2009, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

Where did I say that? I'd find it no less sickening if Cork City supporters were doing it.
There's few enough LoI supporters as it is, how people can cheer the possibility that a large chunk of them could be without a club to support in three weeks is beyond me.

Then again, maybe my crown of thorns is piercing into my brains and causing delusions. Rivalry is one thing, but wishing each other out of existence is daft in my opinion.

any further developments on this TikTok? Is Coughlan definitely gone yet? He seems like the sort of idiot who would pull this as some sort of "stunt"...