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    Quote Originally Posted by sheao View Post
    We need to raise €500,000 in about 2 weeks in simple terms. Things look bleak at the moment for Cork City fc
    Well, for a club with regular gates of over 3000, that €166 each: stupid stat. probably, but its not impossible, as long as you gain control of the club for the money.More than 500 Bohs fans put over twice that each into the club every year as members. Do it.
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    very sad if it happens. personally i always seen cork as a 'real' club. there european cup run always left an impression on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Just like no-one laments the loss of Belfast Celtic still, even after 61 years, and just like the Irish league have never tried to get Derry City back, yeah....?

    To be honest, the league was in a worse state in the early-to-mid 1980's in my view. Crowds were abismal - much worse than now, even at supposedly big clubs like Bohs and Pats, clubs were still falling out of the league all the time, grounds were even ****tier than they are now, 2/3 big clubs were actually homeless, our sponsorhsip by a Fried Chicken magnate made us a laughing stock, and a home draw in a European preliminary round fixture was akin to winning the world cup.
    In fact - since the league was founded in 1922, there hasn't been a period of more than 3 seasons in a row EVER when the league didn't see some sort of flux in teams (joining, dropping out, changing name etc).

    It's obvious we won't agree on this, and it's sad to say that the only way you can be proven wrong is if Cork do go out of business. The fact that so many Cork clubs have sprung up to replace defunct ones shows that having a club from the Republic's second city is considered important by at least Corkonians and the FAI/other clubs. And I suspect a new one would appear within a season or two if Cork City did go.
    It was never worse then, actually for the bigger games people would turn out. Could be huge crowds in the Showgrounds against Shams, Harps and Dundalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    very sad if it happens. personally i always seen cork as a 'real' club. there european cup run always left an impression on me.
    Let's not go over the top. They're only 20 years old ffs.

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    Not one bit surprised to read this. Though I've great respect for the football public from Cork the blame for this whole mess lies solely with the FAI. For their sins last season both Cork and Drogheda should be plying their trade in the First Division this season. That was the only outcome that would have been fair to all clubs in the League of Ireland. Every club should be treated fairly but in the case of both the Rebels and Drogs they were treated with kid gloves. The FAI are to blame as I say and it's at their doorstep the buck stops. Heads should roll with immediate effect. Had the proper decision been taken back then there's no way Cork would be in the situation they now find themselves. Before a ball was kick in anger this season they had problems paying wages. What action did the powers that be in the FAI take, yes you've guessed it. The writing was on the wall before the season started. Our league will never be up to scratch unless the people running it have a real interest. The muppets in the FAI are only interested in the national side and that's the bottom line.

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    Not one single person in the FAI will shoulder the blame for this. The Fudge Mark II is being prepared as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed View Post
    Not one single person in the FAI will shoulder the blame for this. The Fudge Mark II is being prepared as we speak.
    Agree but it's time we the supporters started to make our voices heard. We are the people keeping the league alive and these muppets are only in it for what they can get out of it.
    Scares me to think how they treated a great little club like Cobh and then turn around and treat a crook like Bertie the way they've done. Was that all conducted for the love of football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red bellied View Post
    It was never worse then, actually for the bigger games people would turn out. Could be huge crowds in the Showgrounds against Shams, Harps and Dundalk.
    All clubs get better crowds for bigger games - even now.

    Whilst it's a bit of a tangent, here's a list of clubs who I can safely say have bigger crowds now than they did c. 20 years ago (the odd one-off crowd excluded from both eras) :

    - Bohs
    - Pats
    - Drogheda
    - Cork
    - Galway
    - Finn Harps
    - Shelbourne
    - Longford
    - Bray

    Those with little noticeable change between the two eras :

    - Dundalk
    - Sligo
    - Athlone
    - Monaghan
    - Waterford
    - UCD
    - Cobh

    Those with worse crowds now :

    - Derry City*
    - Shamrock Rovers*
    - Limerick

    (*had exceptional circumstances to explain it).

    But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed View Post
    Not one single person in the FAI will shoulder the blame for this. The Fudge Mark II is being prepared as we speak.
    In fairness, it wasn't the FAI who ran Cork into the ground.

    Licensing is far from perfect, but you can't expect it to protect clubs from themselves if they are intent on finding a way around it. Club's need to take responsibility for how they run themselves, and fans need to share that responsibility and stop looking to blame people outside their clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubman View Post
    Not one bit surprised to read this. Though I've great respect for the football public from Cork the blame for this whole mess lies solely with the FAI. For their sins last season both Cork and Drogheda should be plying their trade in the First Division this season. That was the only outcome that would have been fair to all clubs in the League of Ireland. Every club should be treated fairly but in the case of both the Rebels and Drogs they were treated with kid gloves. The FAI are to blame as I say and it's at their doorstep the buck stops. Heads should roll with immediate effect. Had the proper decision been taken back then there's no way Cork would be in the situation they now find themselves. Before a ball was kick in anger this season they had problems paying wages. What action did the powers that be in the FAI take, yes you've guessed it. The writing was on the wall before the season started. Our league will never be up to scratch unless the people running it have a real interest. The muppets in the FAI are only interested in the national side and that's the bottom line.
    Absolute nonsense. This is a situation of Cork's making. Before the season started Dundalk had verbal agreements with two players, both players went to Cork after they were made offers that were substantially more than the players had agreed with Dundalk. Then we had free admission to the Drogheda match. What the hell was that all about? Drogheda, like Cork came out of examinership and learnt from the sorry experience, Cork City learnt absolutely nothing.
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    The first division when introducted made a mockery of Loi crowds. I am on about the pre era. Ihave seen crowds against Harps in League Cup crowds in the Showgrounds of 4,000 plus and a league game against Shams a massive puller. Get half that this season would be biggest in the Showgrounds all season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raheny Red View Post
    25 years, went long enough for a club from Cork. Feels like Christmas Eve right now
    Your a sad fu(k...I cannot believe any fan of the league in this country is hoping that another club goes bust...

    I was gutted when Shelbourne got demoted... I miss the big games between the two teams...I've been hoping ye get promoted every season since...

    You make me sick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo View Post
    Not at all.
    As I said in a years time, nobody will give a f*** about cork folding
    Thats where your wrong.
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    I am also sorry to hear the news, it could so easily have been us. Heads have to roll if Cork goes ti.ts up - the examiner for start, and those monkeys ruining/running the compliance sector in the FAI. How can Cobh be RRS like they were, but both Cork and Drogheda get a Premier licence, with Cork now set to go belly up?? Absolutely shocking, but there is no such thing as accountability in this country so no one will pay for this latest slight on our beloved league
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    attendances always fluctuate, fact is city have a hardcore group of 2000 fans the last few years, if you could get just over half of them to make a commitment like say shamrock rovers cork have the potential to be one of the biggest clubs around,

    i think as soon as arkaga pulled out the fans should have taken over, you have the FORAS group there, why dont they either take over the club, or just let it blink out of existance and forma new members club,


    before i was even born ramblers had the cup run against sligo in 83, in one game there were over 15,000 fans atteneded a game in flower lodge, no domestic games generate anything like that anymore, there hasnt been a domestic game like that i think in my lifetime, has there? (i was born in 84),

    prof that attendances mean noting, just look at the attendances threads here, the last 5 years ramblers were on average the 14-15 best supported club in LOi football, yet have a big debth over our heads, and were relegated to the A league,

    then you have say monaghan or UCD not great support, but they run there clubs like businesses, they will slowly build there way to the premier division, managhan got a premier division licence this year,

    the only thing that matters is commiment
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed View Post
    Not one single person in the FAI will shoulder the blame for this. The Fudge Mark II is being prepared as we speak.
    eh ye but what i mean is that they are like the only league club in the second biggest county. they just seem to have so much potential and if i was a casual loi fan i would probably support them. i have a few of their jerseys, plus look at all the players they have developed like kevin doyle.

    top club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    look at all the players they have developed like kevin doyle.
    id give credit to mick wallace for that, he bareley warmed the bench when he was at city
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    what? i remember him scoring every week when i used to watch eircom league weekly back in 2005.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    plus look at all the players they have developed like kevin doyle.

    top club.
    please dont stop there keep going

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    what? i remember him scoring every week when i used to watch eircom league weekly back in 2005.
    sorry thinking of pats, he played 75 game and scored 25 goals in 3 seasons for city, but mick wallce deserves all the crdit in my opinion, he just happened to be at city when he was noticed,

    and where the hell did all that money go also,
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