Media claims FAI brand Palestinian flag as "racist"

**eelmonster** · 08/04/2009, 9:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Dundalk are easily becoming the most disliked club in the league, i have gone to games and Darren Mansarram has been given abuse and gave it right back but to turn around and say it is racist is plain ignorant of that shower of knucle draggers up there in Louth. Chanting? That better not be an official compalint or else i hope Sligo Rovers FC follow up if it is. They would want to catch on to themselves and stop dragging other clubs good names through the mud. Funny there has not been a mention of it till now, i wonder why that is !!!

Edit: I don't care about the flag but i don't see the point in them trying to justify it by talking rubbish about other clubs, esp when there has been nothing else said about any incident that night by either set of fans.

Care to explain why Sligo had a Che Guevara flag flying in the Showgrounds last Saturday? Oh, and Sligo town is further north than most of County Louth, Ptolemy.

**irishultra** · 08/04/2009, 10:31 PM

i wouldn't mind but the sort who come up with this crap are about as politically active as my little sister.

i always see palestine flag at barcelona matches and croatian team fans always bring irish flags to matches in uk(linfield in cl an example )

**WoodquayBoy** · 08/04/2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

So extratime got the wrong end of the stick, again...

shoddy journalism, again...

Journalism? It's a gang of fans providing website updates, it hardly equates to journalism in fairness

**betty swollox** · 08/04/2009, 11:01 PM

The third flag on that tri colour is a green st.Georges flag with "champions" written across it, presumably a reference to some scottish club

**Scrufil** · 09/04/2009, 12:05 AM

A flag flys at the end of a flag-pole. The majority of so called flags at football matches are banners. If a person or a club were to fly a defaced Irish tricolour on the end of a flag-pole then this could be deemed to be offensive. The only matter of debate then remains if a short pole actually is regarded as a proper flag pole as short poled flags tend to get waved rather than get fixed into position to occupy an official capacity.

I'd get more offended by seeing someone wearing a Rugby Shirt that represents an Irish province advertising Bank of Scotland than I'd get from seeing a few colourful banners appearing in League of Ireland grounds.

If the government really wanted to make a few bob it should introduce an on the spot fine for anyone wearing a sports shirt outside a sporting venue that advertises foreign goods!

**HarpoJoyce** · 09/04/2009, 12:55 AM

To the football chant of
"U-S-A, U-S-A" an appropiate response is "Vi-Et-Nam, Vi-Et-Nam".
Certainly UCD fans are clued-up enough to respond in an appropiate manner.

**Flawless** · 09/04/2009, 1:38 AM

The Flag in question was made by a group of Dundalk Fans for the Celtic vs Porto UEFA cup final. It was not Originally intended to be a DFC Flag but a one off for the final, it has since become a fixture in Oriel. I personally dont know who owns the flag but i do know thats where it came from..

**bennocelt** · 09/04/2009, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

Black, white, red and green are Cork colours? It could be argued (but I'm not going to) that they're Dundalk's colours too.

The flag in question (which is stitched alongside a Basque flag and a green St. Andrew's cross) defaces the white portion of an Irish tricolour with the words Lilywhite Bhoys on Tour (or words to that effect) emblazoned top and bottom -- I would have thought the 'needs' of a certain number of Dundalk fans were fairly obvious. For me, it's an embarrassment, I cringe everytime I see it, it has no place at an Irish football match. Almost as embarrassing as Bohs fans' UVF flag on the first game of the season, or Rovers fans' Linfield chants last night.

whats that about?

as for political flags I honestly don't have a problem with them - i mean football is the be all and end all of everything so I guess some people want to express everything through their only outlet in life - or something like that - maybe!

Wasn't some anti - racism group trying to get the confederate falg banned at cork gah games a while back!?

**Ash** · 09/04/2009, 8:07 AM

TV3 have already commissioned a 3 part series starring Brian Denehey as a
down on his luck, divorced, alcoholic FAI match delegate who lost custody of
his daughter due to his wreckless life but he pulls it all together to bring a gang
of Palastine flag waving Shamrock Rovers supporters, disguised as Dundalk fans,
causing mahem around Oriel Park, to justice.

Also starring Maxi as a petrol attendent and Sean Connor as The Devil

**BohDiddley** · 09/04/2009, 8:09 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

Almost as embarrassing as Bohs fans' UVF flag on the first game of the season

Excuse me?

**shep** · 09/04/2009, 8:34 AM

Originally Posted by Ash

TV3 have already commissioned a 3 part series starring Brian Denehey as a
down on his luck, divorced, alcoholic FAI match delegate who lost custody of
his daughter due to his wreckless life but he pulls it all together to bring a gang
of Palastine flag waving Shamrock Rovers supporters, disguised as Dundalk fans,
causing mahem around Oriel Park, to justice.

Also starring Maxi as a petrol attendent and Sean Connor as The Devil

Jesus!!! So thats how Athlone fans spend thier time;in a fantasy land. Suppose its better than the reality of realising you support Athlone.

**Sidefx** · 09/04/2009, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

... Almost as embarrassing as Bohs fans' UVF flag on the first game of the season, or Rovers fans' Linfield chants last night.

What are you on about?

**disabledrog** · 09/04/2009, 9:01 AM

This is quite possibly the most pointless thread ever ,its quite sad to be talking about flags ,and der was no racist abuse at the drogs match and none at the rovers match

**holidaysong** · 09/04/2009, 9:05 AM

Originally Posted by betty swollox

The third flag on that tri colour is a green st.Georges flag with "champions" written across it, presumably a reference to some scottish club

Why would a St. George's cross be a reference to a Scottish club?

Anyway, it's the cross of St. Andrew (X) on the flag, not the cross of St. George (+)..

**punkrocket** · 09/04/2009, 9:09 AM

So, if it's okay to wave a flag which contains your team's colours then would it mean that it's acceptable for team such as Derry City to wave the nazi flag around. I think we may all know the answer to that one.

**thischarmingman** · 09/04/2009, 9:19 AM

Originally Posted by punkrocket

So, if it's okay to wave a flag which contains your team's colours then would it mean that it's acceptable for team such as Derry City to wave the nazi flag around. I think we may all know the answer to that one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

**The Lilywhites** · 09/04/2009, 9:45 AM

Originally Posted by disabledrog

This is quite possibly the most pointless thread ever ,its quite sad to be talking about flags ,and der was no racist abuse at the drogs match and none at the rovers match

That's why Drogheda were fined �300 for racist abuse towards Mansaram

**eelmonster** · 09/04/2009, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Excuse me?

Google 'UVF' and 'Simply the best' -- the only other time I've seen that slogan on a football flag or banner was at a Rangers match, whose fans are knowingly referring to one of the UVF's mottos. Bohs fans will plead ignorance, well they would. As for Rovers, a group of their supporters were singing some sh�te about Dundalk being the Linfield of the south, I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean, although it's not the first time I've heard it (the last time I heard it was at a match in the mid-90s against Bohs, coincidentally, though it would be no surprise to me if it was same crowd).

**Dalymountrower** · 09/04/2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

Google 'UVF' and 'Simply the best' -- the only other time I've seen that slogan on a football flag or banner was at a Rangers match, whose fans are knowingly referring to one of the UVF's mottos. Bohs fans will plead ignorance, well they would. As for Rovers, a group of their supporters were singing some sh�te about Dundalk being the Linfield of the south, I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean, although it's not the first time I've heard it (the last time I heard it was at a match in the mid-90s against Bohs, coincidentally, though it would be no surprise to me if it was same crowd).

Tina Turner, UVF Commander Beverley Hills Battn.

**BohDiddley** · 09/04/2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

Google 'UVF' and 'Simply the best' -- the only other time I've seen that slogan on a football flag or banner was at a Rangers match, whose fans are knowingly referring to one of the UVF's mottos. Bohs fans will plead ignorance, well they would. As for Rovers, a group of their supporters were singing some sh�te about Dundalk being the Linfield of the south, I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean, although it's not the first time I've heard it (the last time I heard it was at a match in the mid-90s against Bohs, coincidentally, though it would be no surprise to me if it was same crowd).

Anyway. What were we talking about?