Brian Kerr appointed Faroe Islands manager

**eirebhoy** · 10/09/2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Lenny82

His biggest mistake was going 4-5-1 when we went 2-0 up against Israel, but if we had held out for the 2-0 win he would have been a great man.

He stuck with the 4-4-2 when Keane went off. Just moved Duff up front. Maybe unnecessary changes but certainly not the reason we drew that game.

If Kerr had the physchological skills to get his teams playing without fear he'd be world class. We saw the team playing without fear in friendlies and I'd do anything for Ireland to be playing like that every week.

**Stuttgart88** · 10/09/2009, 11:36 AM

Spot on about 442 v 451 against Israel.

Kerr was very close to being a really good manager for us.

When it came to it the team was limp in crucial games which cost him my support at the time.

He lost the support of the media, the players and the FAI for other reasons and I'd love to hear some detailed analysis of exactly what went on. I understand that Kerr changed and became a bit caught up in his sense of importance. Was this arrogance or just the professionalism required for the job?

What exactly cost him the rapport he had with the press? Who was to blame? Were the press acting like juveniles when not getting their way?

I remember thinking at the time that the players were a bunch of arrogant tarts who lost the run of themselves.

Loss of support within FAI? How exactly did that come about and what were the issues? All I can really recall is that JD was under the microscope yet he still managed to strengthen his hold over his position with some convenient culls.

**shakermaker1982** · 10/09/2009, 11:39 AM

I'll never forgive that Israeli goalkeeper!!

Kerr made us a hard team to beat but we lacked a cutting edge. Didn't Dunne complain about the excessive use of video analysis under Kerr's regime? The press are a funny bunch and if not given enough 'access to the manager' they start sharpening knives.

**Duggie** · 10/09/2009, 11:42 AM

apart from a few results that went against him what happened with kerr was his lack of management before. if he had a long cv he would have lasted longer but when the results didnt go his way i reckon it was a case of does he know what hes doing or hes never really managed "properly" before, lets get rid of him. its a pity it didnt work out.

**Colbert Report** · 10/09/2009, 11:50 AM

Kerr lost my support when he subbed off Robbie Keane for Gary Doherty with half an hour to go in a must-win game against Switzerland in November 2005.

**Stuttgart88** · 10/09/2009, 11:50 AM

I'm about to go back to college in the evenings and I just got my course module for "Principles of Organisation & Management". Sounds unbearably boring, but I'd be curious if anything I learn can be applied to what I know of the FAI!

How accountable are those overseeing the youth dev programmes & how are they judged?
Why have underperforming managers kep their positions?
Surely change from time to time is essential to keep people on their toes?

The whole youth set up seems to have stagnated since Kerr took the senior job.

**macdermesser** · 10/09/2009, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Duggie

apart from a few results that went against him what happened with kerr was his lack of management before. if he had a long cv he would have lasted longer but when the results didnt go his way i reckon it was a case of does he know what hes doing or hes never really managed "properly" before, lets get rid of him. its a pity it didnt work out.

good point that ... the success at underage levels and at Pats was probably not a good enough back up for the rainy day Irish fans and media when it came to the crunch. Although, to be fair, he did lose the faith of many of the hardcore Irish fans too. Still, it goes without saying that what came after Kerr was a disaster and he would surely have done better in that campaign than Stan.

Maybe he should have started with the Faroes or another country before applying for the Ireland job.

But perhaps success, with the Faroes will lead him back to the Irish job via another national job. Still relatively young in a managerial sense. Wishing him the best of luck too

**Straightstory** · 10/09/2009, 12:01 PM

I'm happy for Kerr. He came out of the Ireland job a changed man - bitter and paranoid after his experiences with the press, which was a shame to see. I, for one, wisf him well.

**amaccann** · 10/09/2009, 12:44 PM

What I hope against hope is that this role allows him to eventually find his way back into the Ireland set-up, ideally at underage. It's a sporting crime that Kerr is surplus to requirements in Ireland; perhaps the Faroes job might remind him that not all top international positions are hellish grinds.

**Wolfie** · 10/09/2009, 12:47 PM

Great result for Brian Kerr and I'm happy the Faroes job appears to be going well for him.

The Irish press had the knives out for Kerr - but some of the players helped plunge the knife in.

They leaked the stories to the media about their dissatisfaction about his methods. There were multiple references by the press to the players being "bored" with Kerrs pre-match analysis and attention to detail.

So much Playstation to get through, so little time.

There were no players certainly willing to go on the Late Late Show on his behalf and defend him.

I have never seen an Irish team with so little fight as the team that played Switzerland at home. Kerr (who I felt sorry for) was literally jumping on the spot on the touchline with frustration as we slept walked to elimination.

**Scram** · 10/09/2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfie

Great result for Brian Kerr and I'm happy the Faroes job appears to be going well for him.

The Irish press had the knives out for Kerr - but some of the players helped plunge the knife in.

They leaked the stories to the media about their dissatisfaction about his methods. There were multiple references by the press to the players being "bored" with Kerrs pre-match analysis and attention to detail.

So much Playstation to get through, so little time.

There were no players certainly willing to go on the Late Late Show on his behalf and defend him.

I have never seen an Irish team with so little fight as the team that played Switzerland at home. Kerr (who I felt sorry for) was literally jumping on the spot on the touchline with frustration as we slept walked to elimination.

Faroes best ever result? Well done BK

**seanfhear** · 10/09/2009, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

I'll never forgive that Israeli goalkeeper!!

Kerr made us a hard team to beat but we lacked a cutting edge. Didn't Dunne complain about the excessive use of video analysis under Kerr's regime? The press are a funny bunch and if not given enough 'access to the manager' they start sharpening knives.

After that goalkeepers performance I was of the opinion that all substitute goalkeepers should be situated close to the goal and if the goalkeeper starting having "injury problems" especially in the last ten minutes he should be replaced immediately with the sub.

If the sub was injured he could be replaced by the first goalkeeper.

I know its a bit crazy but it would put a stop to all the time wasting tactics of goalkeepers late in the game.

**geysir** · 10/09/2009, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by Lenny82

Also, Israel's last minute equalizer against us didn't help either.

True enough, last minute equalizers are a bit of a nuisance unless it's us who manage to get them.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 10/09/2009, 4:37 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

He stuck with the 4-4-2 when Keane went off. Just moved Duff up front. Maybe unnecessary changes but certainly not the reason we drew that game.

If Kerr had the physchological skills to get his teams playing without fear he'd be world class. We saw the team playing without fear in friendlies and I'd do anything for Ireland to be playing like that every week.

On the contrary I think it was precisely why we drew that game. It meant changing the positions of 3 players ratrher then just one as he could have had he brought on Elliot. We lost our way while that went on and gave them the chance to get back into it.

I was gutted it didn't work out for him and am delighted he seems to be doing well with the Faroes but he made some serious tactical blunders during his reign with us and after a 3rd (I know he got us to that position from a terrible start under MM first campaign) and a 4th place finish from very qualifiable positions he had to go when he did.

**Razors left peg** · 10/09/2009, 4:45 PM

In the Israel game at home, Duff was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch for the first 25. Every time he got the ball he was tormenting the Israel defence, but then when Robbie went off and Duff was put up front we lost our main supplier to the attack and Duff got starved of ball, that was massive mistake on Kerrs part and I will never forget screaming about it in Lansdowne when the change was made. To me it was obvious that u leave the player that was creating the most damage where he was

**bennocelt** · 10/09/2009, 5:20 PM

Ah I like Kerr but he had two chances with ireland and blown it, and no one else to blame only himself
people go on about the forward line V isreal but it was the midfield line that worried me in that game, that changed it for me

and why did he have to ban the rebel songs before games...thats just silly

**eirebhoy** · 10/09/2009, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

On the contrary I think it was precisely why we drew that game. It meant changing the positions of 3 players ratrher then just one as he could have had he brought on Elliot. We lost our way while that went on and gave them the chance to get back into it.

Israel started to get a lot of possession before Keane went off. We had a good start but I've recalled a good few times now Johnny Giles in commentary saying the Israeli's have crept into the game since the 2nd goal. And that was a few minutes before Keane went off. In fact the best chance they created in the whole game was in that period before Keane went off with their left winger. The only reason I remember is because I've had this debate so many times.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 10/09/2009, 7:46 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Israel started to get a lot of possession before Keane went off. We had a good start but I've recalled a good few times now Johnny Giles in commentary saying the Israeli's have crept into the game since the 2nd goal. And that was a few minutes before Keane went off. In fact the best chance they created in the whole game was in that period before Keane went off with their left winger. The only reason I remember is because I've had this debate so many times.

Precisely why changing 3 key positions on the pitch was folly when Keane got injured. Elliot for Keane was the obvious change with the damage Duff was doing.