Predictions for next season

**wws** · 16/12/2003, 1:21 PM

who's says they raise their own? pobably all borrowed

btw, they WILL stay up, John Gill will probably sign just about every half decent prem player from a very large pool of available players

**sadloserkid** · 16/12/2003, 3:37 PM

I'll probably change all this a little closer to kick-off time but right now I would suggest:

Premier

1. Shelbourne
2. Bohemians
3. Cork City
4. St. Patrick's Athletic
5. Longford Town
6. Shamrock Rovers
7. Waterford United
8. Drogheda United
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9. Dublin City
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10. Derry City (though I hope not)

First
1. Bray Wanderers
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2. Finn Harps
3. UCD
4. Limerick (call it a hunch but...)
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5. Sligo Rovers
6. Kildare County
7. Galway United
8. Athlone Town
9. Cobh Ramblers
10. Dundalk
11. Monaghan United
12. Kilkenny City

FAI Cup
I have a sneaking suspicion that Cork will win this, Dolan will need a trophy of some description this year other than The U-21's and he'll doubtless tell us all how 'In many ways winning the Cup is even more difficult than the league' afterwards.

League Cup
Could go anywhere really but I'll nominate Pats to defeat Dublin City in the final prompting the Cork fans here to flood the board to say that it's not a real trophy anyway and Cork wouldn't be interested in winning it.

**TommyT** · 16/12/2003, 4:35 PM

1. Bohs (still got Hunt and Crowe)
2. Cork (getting there)
3. Longford (there already but not quite up to it)
4. Pats (well organised, lack class)
5. Shels (can only afford ****e)
6. Derry (money in the bank, but need time to rebuild)
7. Rovers (see Shels)
8. Drogheda (building themselves up but not great)
9. Dublin City (see Drogheda)
10. Waaterfurd (Deja Vu, ever notived the number of WUFCers in Merrion Square)

First Division (hopefully)

1.Harps
11.UCD
12.Bray

**pineapple stu** · 16/12/2003, 4:37 PM

Originally posted by Macy
4) The fact that you're UCD in disguise crowd wise (but at least you raise you're own money)

Macy, the random nonsensical UCD-bashing is getting a bit tiring now - any chance of you getting over it?

UCD raise their own extra money (i.e. outside of gate receipts/advertising) like everyone else - golf outings, dinners, soccer camps, etc. No matter how many times you say otherwise, that isn't going to make what you say true. It's just going to make you sound more and more petty really.

Thank you.

Neil · 16/12/2003, 4:38 PM

Originally posted by sadloserkid
FAI Cup
I have a sneaking suspicion that Cork will win this, Dolan will need a trophy of some description this year other than The U-21's and he'll doubtless tell us all how 'In many ways winning the Cup is even more difficult than the league' afterwards.

League Cup
Could go anywhere really but I'll nominate Pats to defeat Dublin City in the final prompting the Cork fans here to flood the board to say that it's not a real trophy anyway and Cork wouldn't be interested in winning it.

Try saying something without using the word "Cork"!

Christ the whole league is obbsessed with us!

**Macy** · 16/12/2003, 4:42 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
Macy, the random nonsensical UCD-bashing is getting a bit tiring now - any chance of you getting over it?

Nah.... well maybe if you stay down and don't nick any players off us on scholarships....

**pineapple stu** · 16/12/2003, 4:45 PM

Originally posted by Macy
Nah.... well maybe if you stay down and don't nick any players off us on scholarships....

Only players we've nicked off yez have turned out to be crap and returned straight away (i.e. Lynch and Mulvihill)!

TheRealRovers · 16/12/2003, 6:03 PM

No body thinks we can go up

**TommyT** · 16/12/2003, 6:28 PM

Originally posted by TheRealRovers
No body thinks we can go up

Too many Sligomen at other clubs TRR. If it wasn't for harps repeated heartbreaks I'd most want youse up.

I'd love to see what proportion of UCD's budget comes from this ''fundraising''

TheRealRovers · 16/12/2003, 6:53 PM

Originally posted by TommyT
Too many Sligomen at other clubs TRR.

Very true and very sad

**Red_terror** · 16/12/2003, 7:04 PM

i truely believe that everyone will be shocked next season by both leagues.

sligo are one of the more financially stable clubs there and should go up and the harps might and still be forever in our shadow.saturday night hahahaha.

derry cork spa longford seem to be the only financially stable clubs and after we saved for the uefa we are splashing out this pre season so beware all.

**dortie** · 16/12/2003, 7:23 PM

Premier

1. Bohemians
2. Cork City
3. Derry City
4. Shelbourne
5. St Patricks Athletic
6. Shamrock Rovers
7. Longford Town
8. Waterford United
9. Dublin City
10. Drogheda United

First
1. Bray Wanderers
2. Sligo Rovers
3. UCD
4. Dundalk
5. Galway United
6. Finn Harps
7. Cobh Ramblers
8. Athlone Town
9. Limerick
10. Kildare County
11. Kilkenny City
12. Monaghan

**TommyT** · 16/12/2003, 8:55 PM

Originally posted by Red_terror
i truely believe that everyone will be shocked next season by both leagues.

You derrymen said that last year though.

BTW as an add on to my prediction I'll say that both Pats and Cork will win a League in the next 3-4 years. Derry have cash in the bank and have had decent crowds considering their form but the locals coming through just don't seem to be good enough.

**dortie** · 17/12/2003, 6:32 AM

Originally posted by TommyT
You derrymen said that last year though.

BTW as an add on to my prediction I'll say that both Pats and Cork will win a League in the next 3-4 years. Derry have cash in the bank and have had decent crowds considering their form but the locals coming through just don't seem to be good enough.

Mark Farren was good enough scoring 4 goals in the play-offs !! He only broke through from the reserves recently.
Anyway we are not bound to the local policy anymore considering the extra cash....(and before you say it the fundraising is continous)...Its not been 'that local' this year with Holt/Hedderman/Gough/Martyn in the squad.

**Macy** · 17/12/2003, 7:26 AM

Originally posted by dortie
Mark Farren was good enough scoring 4 goals in the play-offs !! He only broke through from the reserves recently.

Not saying he won't come good, but all that proves is he scored 4 goals against 1st division opposition.....

**pineapple stu** · 17/12/2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by TommyT
I'd love to see what proportion of UCD's budget comes from this ''fundraising''

Any more than Dublin City? Or Shels? Or Kilkenny? Or Rovers?

Most teams supplement their income with a big income from fundraising. That's the way the league is.

**TommyT** · 17/12/2003, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
Any more than Dublin City? Or Shels? Or Kilkenny? Or Rovers?

Most teams supplement their income with a big income from fundraising. That's the way the league is.

I'm suggesting it's considerably less than at the above named clubs because of the GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY.

**Bald Student** · 17/12/2003, 1:34 PM

The UCD Sports Dept. is funded by the registration fee that the students pay, not by the Government. The soccer club gets very little of that money though. The grants for each club are loosley based on how many student members each club has. The main benefit that the soccer club's senoir team gets is a ground free from rent and taken care of by the UCD grounds staff.

**TommyT** · 17/12/2003, 2:08 PM

The scholarship scheme isn't paid for by the government ???

**pineapple stu** · 17/12/2003, 3:37 PM

Originally posted by TommyT
The scholarship scheme isn't paid for by the government ???

The scholarship scheme is a link with the College. Any club can do that; some clubs (Cork and Bohs to name two) are already doing it. It can't be an unfair advantage if others can do it as well.