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    Lionel Messi

    Best player in the World.
    No question.

    He can become as great as Diego, and will surely lead Argentina to a World Cup final.

    Won't he??

    Last edited by Pike B; 30/03/2009 at 6:41 PM.

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    He is going to be one of the all time greats alongside Pele, Maradona, Zidane etc. Best player in the world by a distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    He is going to be one of the all time greats alongside Pele, Maradona, Zidane etc. Best player in the world by a distance.
    Definitely.

    Hard to believe he's still only 21 aswell!

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    Thumbs up

    To use a few cliches - a joy to watch, you would pay in to see him alone.

    Saw a few minutes of Argentina at the weekend & he was just playing with the ball. Veron came on as sub & home fans were booing him (probably some local club rivalry) & Messi played a few one-twos so quickly the boo-boys could not keep up.



    That goal - the control when he beats the 3 defenders at the edge of the box is crazy.

    Last edited by pete; 30/03/2009 at 10:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Veron came on as sub & home fans were booing him (probably some local club rivalry) & Messi played a few one-twos so quickly the boo-boys could not keep up.
    Nope.

    A rumor (never confirmed) that Verón had failed an internal doping control, and allegations of insufficient effort, hampered his relationship with the media and fans. He was called again to participate in the 2002 World Cup in Korea / Japan, where some saw Verón as the team's key player, and made him personally responsible for Argentina's dismal performance, which included a loss to England and elimination in the groups phase.

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    I love Messi
    and to think in the last WC (albeit very young) he was criminally underused

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    The best player in the world by some distance, it's utter folly to even put the likes of that petulant fat charlatan Rooney in the same league as Messi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    I love Messi
    and to think in the last WC (albeit very young) he was criminally underused
    I could have beaten Pekerman to death in that game against the Germans. With Messi on Argentina would have won that game. No doubt about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo View Post
    The best player in the world by some distance, it's utter folly to even put the likes of that petulant fat charlatan Rooney in the same league as Messi...
    I don't think anyone does. Rooney was clearly a very gifted teenager, but he seems to have stalled at a level where he's merely one of England's better players rather than a true world beater. Even in England, most people recognise that Rooney isn't the best player at his club, much less in the world.

    Messi, on the other hand, is widely acknowledged to be the real deal - a contender for the best player on earth. Very interesting to see how he'll develop further - will he maintain his form for a decade or more, or will a couple of seasons' success take the edge off, as it did for Barcelona's last South American superstar?
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    messi is more than a footballer he is a true legend andd i believe the best ever.....far superior to 'i look good in the big games' zidane(how many leagues did juve and real win with him?) messi is not arrogant or obsessed about his own self worth ala zlatan or c ronaldo...he doesnt have to hype himself because simply he IS the best there was, the best there is and the best that ever will be. wheen the question is posed who is the best player in the world it is necessary to begin with 'well except for messi.....(ronaldo) (ribery) etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    ...far superior to 'i look good in the big games' zidane(how many leagues did juve and real win with him?)...
    FFS, it's not like it's hard to find:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane#Honors

    2 Serie A titles and two Champions Leagues with Juve, one league title and another Champions League with Madrid. Throw in winning a World Cup and European Cup with France and the guy's record really speaks for itself.

    Messi has a long way to go to match his achievements. He looks like he has the talent to do so, but it's not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    FFS, it's not like it's hard to find:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane#Honors

    2 Serie A titles and two Champions Leagues with Juve, one league title and another Champions League with Madrid. Throw in winning a World Cup and European Cup with France and the guy's record really speaks for itself.

    Messi has a long way to go to match his achievements. He looks like he has the talent to do so, but it's not the same thing.
    He didn't win the Champions League with Juve. Wikipedia is wrong .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Maroon View Post
    He didn't win the Champions League with Juve. Wikipedia is wrong .
    It happens. I think he got to a couple of finals with them anyway - they were a real force in Europe in the late 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    far superior to 'i look good in the big games' zidane(how many leagues did juve and real win with him?) .
    Forgive my ignorance but I tought great players played well in the big games and that Ronaldo didn't, he only played well against "small clubs" and that's the reason Ronaldo is not great.


    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    messi is not arrogant or obsessed about his own self worth ala zlatan or c ronaldo....
    I believe there has been more than a few issues with Messi and a few of his former team mates Eto'o and Ronaldinho and Deco?

    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    he doesnt have to hype himself because simply he IS the best there was, the best there is and the best that ever will be. wheen the question is posed who is the best player in the world it is necessary to begin with 'well except for messi.....(ronaldo) (ribery) etc.
    Messi is the best player in the world at the moment but it's a very limited pool at the moment. There aren't so many Galacticos as there was nor is there any genuinely world class footballers about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post



    I believe there has been more than a few issues with Messi and a few of his former team mates Eto'o and Ronaldinho and Deco?


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    From all I've read about Messi I'd be very , very surprised if there were any issues with him

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    got to see him play against Levante last season in the Nou Camp and he was brilliant (so were Barca that day but he's the best player I've ever seen in the flesh). Entered the ground early so I could see the warm ups and soak in the atmosphere and him and Ronaldinho messing around with the football doing tricks was worth the admission fee alone.

    Don't the Barca players call him the 'baby'? He's like a baby brother to them from the accounts I've read. I'd be very surprised if he has fallen out with Ronaldinho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    I believe there has been more than a few issues with Messi and a few of his former team mates Eto'o and Ronaldinho and Deco?
    I highly doubt there were problems between Messi and Ronaldinho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike B View Post
    Best player in the World.
    No question.

    He can become as great as Diego, and will surely lead Argentina to a World Cup final.
    The Daily Telegraph agrees with you

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-Maradona.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Forgive my ignorance but I tought great players played well in the big games and that Ronaldo didn't, he only played well against "small clubs" and that's the reason Ronaldo is not great.




    I believe there has been more than a few issues with Messi and a few of his former team mates Eto'o and Ronaldinho and Deco?



    Messi is the best player in the world at the moment but it's a very limited pool at the moment. There aren't so many Galacticos as there was nor is there any genuinely world class footballers about.
    taught great players played well in big games.. well big game tonight and the boy wonder messi looked very poor

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    I agree...I said in a previous thread a few weeks ago that against top English opposition, Messi is usually relatively quiet and has never scored against them.

    This I think prevents him from being a great player in the mold of Maradona, Drogba, Torres, etc.

    Drogba has a proven record against Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd, as well as Barcelona and top European teams. Torres also. Maradona brought a poor Napoli team to the Italian League and an average Argentinian side to win the world cup. In fact internationally and at club level post Barcelona, Maradona always played for poor or average teams, yet did it against the best in Italy and internationally against Brazil, Germany, England, etc.

    Messi is good, no question, but you aren't great until you prove it against the top sides in the world, not Levente, Getafe, etc who I assume are the equivalent of West Brom.

    I'm still to be convinced.
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